OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 It's an extremely loose definition of city, for sure, but the Oakland Raiders, San Francisco Giants and Sacramento Kings all dominated their respective sports in 2002. All of them ended up a bit short, but that's a damn good run for the northern California contingent. It doesn't count since there are other pro teams in town. The Raiders have the A's, the SF Giants have the 49ers and the Warriors are in Oakland with the Kings being 2 hours away. And the fans in Oakland hate the fans in SF and they hate the Kings fans too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Chicago-ians never pulled that collective "We get no respect" shit that Bostonians did. Plus to go along with what I said in another thread, FUCK Boston for their treatment of Antoine Walker. Which time- when they brought him back as a savior of the 04-05 season, or when they constantly throw out the idea of bringing him back off the bench? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 25, 2007 I don't know why this is an issue, really. I wish Chicago sports fans could be as disliked as Boston sports fans. Chicago sports fans are like Jonah Hill. The act is cute for a while, but eventually that "lovable loser" vibe goes and they're just fat and obnoxious. That's not entirely accurate, nor funny. Nerve = touched, for Boon. I don't know of any sort of bad reputation for Bulls fans. I mean, yeah, Bears fans are meatballs, and Sox fans are goons who don't support their team. (Hawks fans are on the milk carton.) I can think of cities with worse fanbases than Chicago. There's one that unequivocally supports Barry Bonds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 25, 2007 You're just fluffing the list after you get past the Dodgers winning the West. I say past the mention of USC is fluff. Any team that routinely draws crowds upwards of 80,000 can't be determined as "fluff." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 Boston fans are as spoiled as Cleveland fans are miserable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 You're just fluffing the list after you get past the Dodgers winning the West. I say past the mention of USC is fluff. Any team that routinely draws crowds upwards of 80,000 can't be determined as "fluff." Without my ill advised metion of the Sparks, Xtreme and Galaxy, LA during 2000-2004,even without a pro football team, had 3 NBA Championships, a College National Champioship in Football (2 if you count the split in 2003), A Stanley Cup Final apperance and a World Series Title. Not to mention hosted an NBA and NHL All-Star games in that period. Thats a pretty decent 4 year period for any pro sport city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 The Bay Area was pretty damn spoiled from 1988 to 1990 as the 49ers won back-to-back Super Bowls and came within two points of playing in a third straight Super Bowl while the A's played in three straight World Series including beating the Giants in '89. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I'm now wondering if KingPK was badmouthing U of L due to that Pitino "Loserville" comment. See, "Loserville" is a not particularly witty name for Louisville that UK fans thought up. No, that's just what a columnist called Boston in those days. Maybe UK fans inspired him, I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxxson Mayhem 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I'm now wondering if KingPK was badmouthing U of L due to that Pitino "Loserville" comment. See, "Loserville" is a not particularly witty name for Louisville that UK fans thought up. Besides, there's no bigger group of douchebags than UK fans. They would likely take pride in it too. I'll put it this way: UK die hards are so psychotic that they refuse to accept support from people who are first and foremost fans of another team. There are a lot of U of L fans that are at least casual supporters of UK (when they aren't playing U of L mind you), but UK fans ensure that this is difficult. Amusing comparison by the way with the Patriots and 1998 Vikings. I must have missed the Vikings winning the Super Bowl that year. Wrong. UK can't touch THE Ohio State fanbase. Oh god. I fucking HATE osu fans. the ohio state university? Ugh. eat a dick and die slow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 It's not even the Red Sox stuff I mind (other than the neverending quest to divest Manny Ramirez), it's the Patriots stuff that's really odious. 5. Be sure to boast about all the hot chicks Tom Brady gets to nail. Because that’s totally something for YOU to brag about. On the motherFUCKING bullseye I have never in my life heard anyone brag or boast about Brady pulling tail. Make jokes about it? Sure, but nobody acts about it in the way suggested here. Also, I wouldn't say that San Fran fans unequivocally supported Bonds, more like they grudgingly accept him. There was next to no outrage at them pushing him out the door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I'm now wondering if KingPK was badmouthing U of L due to that Pitino "Loserville" comment. See, "Loserville" is a not particularly witty name for Louisville that UK fans thought up. Besides, there's no bigger group of douchebags than UK fans. They would likely take pride in it too. I'll put it this way: UK die hards are so psychotic that they refuse to accept support from people who are first and foremost fans of another team. There are a lot of U of L fans that are at least casual supporters of UK (when they aren't playing U of L mind you), but UK fans ensure that this is difficult. Amusing comparison by the way with the Patriots and 1998 Vikings. I must have missed the Vikings winning the Super Bowl that year. Wrong. UK can't touch THE Ohio State fanbase. Oh god. I fucking HATE osu fans. the ohio state university? Ugh. eat a dick and die slow. Agreed there. I'm from Cleveland and have had enough of the local media suckin off OSU as if they set up shop right along Lake Erie. If I have to drive 2+ hours to get to the home team's stadium, they're not the home team to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 It's not even the Red Sox stuff I mind (other than the neverending quest to divest Manny Ramirez), it's the Patriots stuff that's really odious. 5. Be sure to boast about all the hot chicks Tom Brady gets to nail. Because that’s totally something for YOU to brag about. On the motherFUCKING bullseye I have never in my life heard anyone brag or boast about Brady pulling tail. Make jokes about it? Sure, but nobody acts about it in the way suggested here. Yet they do pretend its completely okay for him to be a shitty dad because he throws a football. His baby momma says he is a crappy dad and everyone jumps on HER because she obviously got pregnant in an attempt to trap the great Tom Brady. Yet he has proven to be elusive even when his protection breaks down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 26, 2007 See also: Matt Leinart's receptacle being called a bitch because she said similar things about the quality of parenting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 Kobe Bryant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 Re: Brady and Leinart as "parents" What the hell do people expect? Neither was in a relationship with the woman when she found out she was pregnant, neither pregnancy was planned, the women knew this to be the case and chose to go through with the pregnancy. Nothing wrong with that from either side, and the women knew or should have known what they were getting into. And really, with children so young how much parenting can you expect from them at this point. The mother is by nature the primary caregiver, and neither man can be a reasonable father figure with the absence of a loving relationship with the mother. As the children get older they could play a role in their lives, but beyond monetary support they have little to offer now. I don't understand what they're being knocked for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 Not quite how it works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 Re: Brady and Leinart as "parents" What the hell do people expect? Neither was in a relationship with the woman when she found out she was pregnant, neither pregnancy was planned, the women knew this to be the case and chose to go through with the pregnancy. Nothing wrong with that from either side, and the women knew or should have known what they were getting into. And really, with children so young how much parenting can you expect from them at this point. The mother is by nature the primary caregiver, and neither man can be a reasonable father figure with the absence of a loving relationship with the mother. As the children get older they could play a role in their lives, but beyond monetary support they have little to offer now. I don't understand what they're being knocked for. Y....you were kidding right? Sarcasm is tough to detect online sometimes, but did you just say it was cool to be a deadbeat dad and not have a role in your childs life until they are older because the pregnancy wasn't planned? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 26, 2007 Especially if they're highly paid NFL quarterbacks, I mean geeeeeeeeeeeez. Give 'em a million bucks, that'll shut the cunt up. Besides, Matt Leinart doesn't have anything else to do at the moment, he might as well step up to the plate and be a dad for a few months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted October 26, 2007 Re: Brady and Leinart as "parents" What the hell do people expect? Neither was in a relationship with the woman when she found out she was pregnant, neither pregnancy was planned, the women knew this to be the case and chose to go through with the pregnancy. Nothing wrong with that from either side, and the women knew or should have known what they were getting into. And really, with children so young how much parenting can you expect from them at this point. The mother is by nature the primary caregiver, and neither man can be a reasonable father figure with the absence of a loving relationship with the mother. As the children get older they could play a role in their lives, but beyond monetary support they have little to offer now. I don't understand what they're being knocked for. Umm. Yeah the mom is responsible for the child, but the dad is equally so. So what you're saying is since they were sleeping with this women but were not in serious relationships it's perfectly cool for them to knock them up and then take no responibility for the kid other than money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 And with that post Precious Roy goes from being some guy I don't bother looking at to a Deon/Spman level imbecile. I think a lot of people here will feel the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 A) Where is everyone getting the whole "Brady's a deadbeat dad" thing? 2) Isn't everyone jumping the gun a little bit? The baby's, what, two months old? Bridget moved to LA, Brady plays on the east coast, and the Pats haven't even had their bye week yet. He's not exactly a man of leisure this time of year. III) Yeah, Roy's post was pretty bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2007 This fits in with this thread: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/red_s...to_break_fabled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garfieldsnose 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2007 Detroit says hi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 27, 2007 In opposition to this discussion, the Top 10 Cities in a Sports Slump, according to SI.com.. 10. Cincinnati - The Bengals' off-field issues have been embarrassing for the city, and now the team is losing, making for a long fall in the Queen City. The Reds haven't provided much relief, wallowing near the bottom of the NL Central for a few years now. 9. Seattle - The Sonics are threatening to move if they don't get a new franchise, and the way they're playing these days, that might not be a bad thing. The Seahawks came close to winning a Super Bowl, but haven't looked like contenders the last two years. The Mariners are also good, but can't seem to take it to the next level. 8. Los Angeles - They still don't have an NFL team, but that's not the problem. The Lakers have become a bit of a joke because of the Kobe Bryant soap opera. The Clippers' recent promise has evaporated, with Elton Brand out for the season. The Dodgers seem to be stuck being good but not great. And the city's crown jewel, the USC football program, has finally shown signs of vulnerability this season. 7. Washington, D.C. - The Nationals and Capitals are bad, and the Wizards haven't been a championship contender since Wes Unseld retired. None of that matters that much in D.C., where the sports world revolves around the Redskins. And ever since Daniel Snyder took over, `Skins faithful have been disappointed by big offseason spending and in-season let-downs. 6. New York City - Even though there are some winning teams, the headlines are filled with the Knicks' front-office issues and the Yankees' bloated payroll and their recent split with Joe Torre. The Mets had a historic collapse this season, the Rangers are struggling despite spending lots of money in the offseason, and the Jets' collapse balances out any success the Giants are having. 5. Minneapolis/St. Paul - Even though Kevin Garnett was never going to lead the Timberwolves to a title, fans are taking his loss hard, since there's little reason to follow hoops right now. That leaves the Vikings, who have quickly developed into an NFL also-ran, and the Twins, who are always good but can't muster the payroll to keep their talented players. 4. Cleveland - Finally, the Indians were about to go back to the World Series for the first time since 1997, but they couldn't hold on against the Red Sox. But fans' expect that from this team, which hasn't won a championship since 1948. The Browns haven't been any better. Since they returned to Cleveland in 1999, they've had just one winning season. That leaves the city's sports' hopes on Lebron James' shoulders. All Cleveland fans pray he'll never leave the Cavs for the bright lights of a bigger city. 3. Buffalo - The Bills used to break everyone's heart by reaching the Super Bowl and losing. Now, they simply disappoint fans year in and year out. To add insult to injury, the team wants to move one home game a year to Toronto. At least they have the Sabres, who last won a Stanley cup ... never. 2. Atlanta - The city's biggest sports hero, Michael Vick, is facing jail time for dogfighting and his Falcons are one of the worst teams in the NFL. The Braves have failed to make the postseason two straight years after 14 trips to the playoffs. And the Hawks' only luck has come in the lottery, but they consistently take the wrong guy at the top of the draft. 1. Philadelphia - No four-professional-team city has gone as long as Philly without winning a title. There hasn't been a championship parade on Broad Street since Moses Malone led the Sixers to the 1982-83 title. The Eagles came close in 2004, but fell to the Patriots in the Super Bowl. The Phillies reached the postseason this year for the first time since 1993. And the Flyers have been consistent regular-season performers who instantly melt down in the playoffs. Local hero Smarty Jones almost won the Triple Crown, but like the pro teams, couldn't seal the deal, finishing second in the Belmont Stakes after winning the Kentucky Derby and Preakness. I agree with the selection of the cities, but not the rankings of them. Cincinnati deserves to be much higher. Until the Packers' recent success, I think you could probably place Milwaukee up there too. Hell, I guess technically you could since it's Green Bay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2007 Alright, the only reason Cleveland isn't #1 is because we don't have a shitty hockey team. Does a championship trophy mantle that hasn't been attended to in 43 years mean anything anymore? Though, I will accept Buffalo being right there w/ Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 27, 2007 The Cavs made the NBA Finals this year, and the Indians almost made the World Series. I think that's the reason why Cleveland is being held down to #4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2007 I would put Milwaukee in there long before I'd ever consider NYC. The Yankees have been to the playoffs every year this decade, the Mets won the division last year, the Giants have been to a Super Bowl recently, and the Rangers are good again. I don't care how high expectations are there, you have to really EARN the right to say you're in a slump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 27, 2007 Marquette is kind of good, though, and aside from the last two years, the Packers have pretty much had a stranglehold on the divsion championship. The Bucks are terrible, but nobody cares about the Bucks, and if they don't feel that one of the best arenas in the league is good enough for them, I hope they move to Kansas City where they'd be wanted for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2007 Re: bad parents- Seriously- what are you people basing this on? Separated parents doesn't necessarily equal bad parenting. Unless you're all friends with Brady/Leinart and see them abusing/neglecting their kids, you really have no basis for this, and it's a cheap shot. And ditto what CC said on NYC - that city being #6 on that list is asinine. I'd love to see this list if they weren't counting shitty managing/ownership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 27, 2007 Well, in Leinart's case, it was a matter of his kid's mom having to clarify that Matt didn't take the active role in parenting that he professed to have taken, which I find to be pretty low. If you're just gonna go out and bang hot chicks instead of spend time with your child, at least be honest about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites