devo 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 There's a terrific article in the New York Times today by Michael Lewis regarding the peculiar social status of NFL kickers. It's a great read. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/sports/p...nted=1&_r=3 I've never really gotten the hate for kickers. To me, it's probably the hardest mental game in football. More often then not, if you are out there kicking a field goal, the game is resting solely on you. Not on a combination of other people like other positions. It's just you. The only help you get is someone holds the ball, and you have a line holding the opponents back. Everything about the kick as far as succeeding is only you. On top of that, you are ONLY brought out to kick every so often. I think that may be the main issue. In a lot of fans' eyes, the kicker does nothing for fifty-five minutes or so, lounging on the bench while the "real" players are out there getting their asses kicked up and down the field. If you're only going to come into the game a few times and almost never even get touched, you damn well better be able to nail that kick. That's a guess, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 Ha, semantics. You got yourself a shitty QB dude. Trust me, I know, I've been forced to deal with Losman for years. It takes 4-5 years to make a good NFL QB... I know a lot of people have lost patience given how certain guys can just come in and start running things. Losman for years??!! You make it seem like he's been there for 6 years sucking shit, have some patience. Fuck, guys like Troy Aikman, John Elway, and Steve Young wouldn't be able to make it in today's high standards must win now league. Eli Manning is feeling that now. Three years dude, that's a pretty long time, especially since there's no progress and he actually seems to be getting worse. He has weapons and a decent line (better than in years past) but throws up ducks, and just seems to heave it when he feels like it. I'm more patient than most, but there's no point in waiting for a shitty QB to get even shittier. I'm glad they're going with Edwards, who got the Bill Walsh seal of approval before he kicked the bucket. Random thought: Bill Walsh also said Brees was the better pick of the draft than Vick. He was right, but it's still funny how that played out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Almost time to fire up the radio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Im gonna watch the game cause its HD and theres nothing else on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Im gonna watch the game cause its HD and theres nothing else on. But how can we relate the game to the Ravens? That's what we all are dying to hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Im gonna watch the game cause its HD and theres nothing else on. But how can we relate the game to the Ravens? That's what we all are dying to hear. The Ravens played the 2nd Thursday Night game on NFL Network last year and lost to the Bengals. ha! or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 It's amazing how disinterested Bryant Gumbel sounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pizza Hut's Game Face Report post Posted November 30, 2007 A good national broadcaster is disinterested, a bad one is uninterested. Bryant is the latter. Almost time to fire up the radio. Wayne Larrivee > Bryant Gumbel, and your mental picture is probably > NFL Public Access. THE DAGGER! However, I give credit to the aforementioned bad channel by avoiding any bad sounds during the moment of silence by COMPLETELY POTTING THE AUDIO DOWN. Simply stellar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fazzle 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Well, so far NFL.com seems to be doing a live stream of the pregame. Let's see if it remains up when the game itself actually starts. Edit: and the stream is still on! http://www.nfl.com/live Edit #2: Fuck that stream. They showed the whole Packers' first drive to make you think it's gonna be a stream of the game, then they went to a studio show during commercials, and are STILL at the studio show, promising a "live look in coming soon" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Bad call.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Sounds like more bullshit in Dallas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Bryant Gumbel is the worst announcer I have heard in years. I honestly wish the NFL Network would have hired Summerall do cover these games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 I'd take Gumbel any day over some of the schlocks that do games on other networks. I don't get the Gumbel hate at all. Different strokes I get. He is most definietly better than Joe Buck or Musberger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Here we go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 I'd take Gumbel any day over some of the schlocks that do games on other networks. I don't get the Gumbel hate at all. Different strokes I get. He is most definietly better than Joe Buck or Musberger. The Joe Buck hate I totally understand. I just don't like the way he broadcasts games. To me he doesn't have the voice quality to announce football games. His voice is to soft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Getting brutal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 I guess Romo is having too much fun to lose this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Is Favre hurt or did they just yank him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Favre went out with some sort of "elbow stinger." He should be back. Not sure if that would matter, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Well, so far NFL.com seems to be doing a live stream of the pregame. Let's see if it remains up when the game itself actually starts. Edit: and the stream is still on! http://www.nfl.com/live Edit #2: Fuck that stream. They showed the whole Packers' first drive to make you think it's gonna be a stream of the game, then they went to a studio show during commercials, and are STILL at the studio show, promising a "live look in coming soon" I just put the stream on and it's been working for a couple minutes..are they gonna cut from the game any minute now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Good stream. Aaron Rodgers looks mad old. How long ago was he drafted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 This is only his 3rd year in the league. Feels longer though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonL21 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Favre has schooled Aaron Well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 I don't get the Gumbel hate at all. Different strokes I get. He is most definietly better than Joe Buck or Musberger. It's like Kermit the Frog is calling the game. He just doesn't have an appealing voice for PBP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Rogers is pretty fucking good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Aaron Rodgers looks mad old. Favre's been feeding on his soul to stay young Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Aaron Rodgers looks mad old. Favre's been feeding on his soul to stay young He's Vulture? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Aaron Rodgers looks mad old. Favre's been feeding on his soul to stay young He's Vulture? Favre has a Juvenator machine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 ^ Probably. TO! LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Neat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
