The Ghost of bps21 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 I think what people are missing about the AFC East being hard is this: The Patriots are going to win that division. Period. That leaves you fighting for 2 wildcard spots in the AFC. Indy/Jacksonville will decide one division winner and the other is a pretty good bet for a wild card. ... That leaves one spot for all the other teams to compete for. God forbid someone has a fluky Bears like year. Bottom line...much easier to make the playoffs in Tampa than the Jets.
Kinetic Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 There's no question about that. I've heard somewhere--ESPN, I think--that Favre would rather go back into retirement than play for the Jets. If he ends up anywhere, it's going to be Tampa. It's basically a matter of them working out trade details. I've heard the names Brian Griese and Ryan Nece thrown around, as well as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round draft pick.
Brett Favre Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 The Jets have a pretty manageable schedule. Favre seems interested in Tampa Bay cause they play Green Bay.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 The Jets have a pretty manageable schedule. Favre seems interested in Tampa Bay cause they play Green Bay. And because they are a better team...
Brett Favre Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 No they're not. They played in a shitty division last year, and the Jets made way more improvements.
The Ghost of bps21 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 Again...as "easy" as the Jets schedule is...barring any weird injuries to a Manning or Brady (and even that probably wouldn't keep the Pats from winning the division) They're going into the season competing with 10 teams for 1 spot.
cabbageboy Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 I'm not sure the Jets with Favre couldn't beat out the Jags for a playoff spot. Jacksonville could be anywhere from an 8-8 team to a 12-4 team. Bear this in mind about Tampa. The Bucs could have been better than 9-7 last year, but for whatever reason Gruden pulled Garcia and they phoned it in the last month of the season, losing 3 out of their last 4. The division was crap though so Gruden didn't want an injury to Garcia and thus rested him, but in reality they could have been an 11-5 type team.
Guest Vitamin X Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 Yeah the Bucs were doing pretty well last year, first round playoff exit be damned and all. I love how it's always the Patriot fans who come around defending their precious AFC East. Fact: The AFC is not necessarily the stronger conference. The AFC and NFC West are equally inept conferences that are usually a phone-in for one team (Seattle and San Diego) with one team wildly threatening for a wildcard spot (Random NFC West Team of the Moment and Broncos) before settling down. The AFC and NFC North are pretty much the same at this point as well. The NFC won the interconference matchups last year, and that's including the Patriots' perfect season in there as well. And, lest we forget, the Super Bowl. Sure, you're going to have the Jags or Colts be working for the 5th spot and then it's a dogfight for the last spot.. And what about in the NFC? The Vikings should compete this year with another year of Adrian Peterson, the Bears should bounce back, and all of the NFC East teams are better. The only reason why Tampa is a better destination is because there's only one other team in the division worth a crap (New Orleans), and even then we don't know if Carolina will have one of their suddenly great seasons. It doesn't get any easier in either conference, but Tampa does have a better chance of winning the division than the Jets do, that is for sure. (And the Patriots have to eventually stumble and fall, especially in today's NFL, right? Right?)
The Ghost of bps21 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 I'm the one defending it... and I'm a Bills fan. Point is...when you have no chance at winning the division you make it a much more difficult road to the playoffs. And the Jets aren't winning the division if Jesus Christ came down and played QB.
Guest Vitamin X Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 I was referring to the earlier comments. I agree with what you said, for the most part. But making the playoffs isn't that easy in the NFC either, it's just Tampa has a better road to it than the Jets do.
Boon Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 Ugh. And I thought the Jets/Patriots hype couldn't get any worse.
KingPK Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 So Favre goes from being protected by one of the best o-lines in the league last year to being protected by a reconsituted line that was among the worst. Good luck with that.
garfieldsnose Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 Who cares, Brett Favre's an asshole.
Brett Favre Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 So Favre goes from being protected by one of the best o-lines in the league last year to being protected by a reconsituted line that was among the worst. Good luck with that. Alan Faneca says hi. Ferguson and Mangold should continue to improve, and Woody adds depth. Fucking Pat fans are always downers unless they sign some superstar for like 12 bucks. STFU.
alfdogg Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 If nothing else, maybe New England will have to play someone worth a damn within their division now.
jwest27 Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 Well, at least he'll still be wearing green. Also, it should be funny to see Mike Greenberg's reaction on Mike & Mike tomorrow. That guy's going to go friggin' nuts.
KingPK Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 So when does Peter King set up shop at Jets training camp?
RedJed Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 I'm still not convinced Brett still won't be traded to another NFC North team still, particularly the Vikings........we'll see, I guess. EDIT - Reports already circulated on ESPN that Brett is actually not really happy Green Bay jumped the gun and did the trade with New York without his complete agreement.....he was more leaning towards Tampa Bay as of tonight, this is all according to his agent. So doubtful this story is over. If he's not really satisfied with the Jets, this relationship might not last long and New York just might try to pick up another heap of draft picks from Minnesota or Tampa on top of what they are getting from Green Bay.
bob_barron Posted August 7, 2008 Author Report Posted August 7, 2008 Ted Thompson's an asshole. Fixed. How so? Brett's the one who has been the asshole this entire time.
Matt Young Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 *vomits* Brett hasn't been an asshole. he's made some bad decisions, but if Thompson hadn't pressured him into making a decision in March, he could've made the right one if given time and none of this would have ever happened.
naiwf Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 I think the only plot twist left is ESPN Breaking News: Brett Favre traded to the Vikings OR Brett Favre to retire . . . AGAIN
bob_barron Posted August 7, 2008 Author Report Posted August 7, 2008 Brett hasn't been an asshole. he's made some bad decisions, but if Thompson hadn't pressured him into making a decision in March, he could've made the right one if given time and none of this would have ever happened. Brett's totally been the asshole. No one forced him to retire or comeback. The Packers wanted a decision by March so they could prepare for the draft and training camp. Favre is the one who has been jerking everyone around this whole time. What was Ted Thompson supposed to do? Welcome him back with open arms, knowing the saga would continue again in the off-season?
Matt Young Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 That approach worked out pretty well last year. Fact is, he was forced into making a decision prematurely, and now the Packers fans have to pay for it. I hope the team goes 0-16 this year (they won't, but still) solely so that Thompson gets fired.
bob_barron Posted August 7, 2008 Author Report Posted August 7, 2008 You're a horrible fan. Just awful The Packers didn't want another will he or won't he circus regarding Favre in the offseason. I don't blame them. Favre's the one who came back and acted like the starting QB job should be his birthright, Aaron Rogers be damned. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjLY...o&type=lgns sums up a lot of my feelings on the situation. Favre's the one who didn't want to stay in Green Bay- he was playing a game of chicken with them to get released and go to Minnesota so he could beat your football team twice. Stay classy, Brett.
Matt Young Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 The starting job should be his. Brett's the greatest of all time,. Rodgers has never started a game. How am I a horrible fan? I want the shitty GM gone. I'm pretty sure the majority of Packers fans want the same. You're likely just as biased as I am, but on the other extreme, since you're from New York.
bob_barron Posted August 7, 2008 Author Report Posted August 7, 2008 Yes, since I am not a Jets fan at all and root for the Saints.
Matt Young Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 That's why I said likely. I didn't know for sure. I stand corrected.
AlwaysPissedOff Posted August 7, 2008 Report Posted August 7, 2008 Wow, people are still defending Brett's 'right' to act like a primadonna bitch? He's done this shit like the last 2 or 3 seasons and some Packer fans are willing to put up with it again? C'mon now... no player's worth that much ball-licking.
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