Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 Matt just broke the news on his website that this will be the main event of the show and regardless of the outcome he'll get Serra next. Matt Hughes vs Thiago Alves Brandon Vera vs Fabricio Werdum Marcus Davis vs Mike Swick Chris Leben vs Michael Bisping Nate Marquardt vs Thales Leites Rashad Evans vs James Irvin Martin Kampmann vs Jorge Rivera Jason Lambert vs Luis Cane Matt Wiman vs Thiago Tavares Antoni Hardonk vs Neil Wain Roan Carneiro vs Ryo Chonan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 So what does this mean for Alves' #2 contender status should he lose to Super Dick? And I wonder if they're still trying for Bisping/Fratboy now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 So is that a strong enough ME to keep it on PPV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 This card has too many names on it to be a UFN and they'll play up that it's Hughes's first time back in the UK since the second fight with Carlos Newton. Won't be the draw Chuck would but still too big to put on free tv. This isn't a bad main event but it's not exactly beneficial for the WW rankings. If Hughes beats this AND gets past Serra he still can't fight for the title with GSP on top unless Fitch finds a way to beat GSP. It'd be a good notch on the belt of Thiago and would certainly make him a top five WW to take out Karo and Hughes within a half-year but the risk for him is huge too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 At the same time he's not exactly hiding behind his "I got next" status, like Karo was, so in Dana's twisted mind that may make him more of a contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 I think if Alves loses he'll get the winner of Koscheck/Lytle to keep him in the mix. I was thinking for a minute that it's lame to have a non-title fight for a PPV main but then I remembered that this show was never supposed to have one in the first place. I dig the hell out of that main card, should go a long way in establishing upper-level guys @ 170, 185 and HW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 Seems like Chuck vs Rashad again. A main eventer vs a guy who's almost there. Although I'd have rather seen Chuck fight. I like Hughes in this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 The selling point they (aka Rogan) will use during the fight is "Will Thiago hold back on the leg kicks in fear of the takedown?". He used them sparingly against Karo for the same reason and there's no question that if Karo can take him down Hughes will have no issue. A Thiago KO is of course a possibility but I see this being like a less action-packed version of Fitch/Alves with Hughes riding out a decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 Alves by flying knee in the 3rd round, mark my words... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2008 I actually really like this card. I'd love to see Alves destroy Hughes but it would have to be via way of a KO. Either way, win or lose, I can see Alves losing the fight throughout. Either he ends up losing or he catches Hughes when he's behind on the cards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nate 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2008 that card looks pretty solid, Hughes/Alves should be very good I say Hughes by RNC in round 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2008 Rashad Evans vs James Irvin Michael Bisping vs Chris Leben Both signed and confirmed. Hot damn I am really liking this card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2008 Rashad Evans vs James Irvin *cue Sweet Georgia Brown* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravman77 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2008 I'm going and got to say that when Chuck pulled out I was really pissed off but adding Hughes/Alves and Bisping/Leben has made the overall card much stronger. Should be a good night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2008 Looking at the two fights I listed as confirmed I'm curious as to two fights will get bumped off the main card. Vera/Werdum is probably a #1 contenders fight, Davis is too hot for the undercard and they need Marqurdt/Leities beacuse of the lack of MW contenders. Rivera/Kampmann will for sure get bumped but I can't see any others and there's no way Rashad/Irvin or Leben/Bisping doesn't make the main card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2008 Nate Marquardt vs Thales Leites will most likely become a swing bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2008 Yeah, good call. Man I really like this card. Even without a title main event this goes up against anything they've done in the last while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2008 Yeah, good call. Man I really like this card. Even without a title main event this goes up against anything they've done in the last while. Although I like this card, I think UFC 84 is a better card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2008 Fight for fight this is a great card. Lacks starpower that some UFCs have had lately. But looks like some good fights are going to come out of this Matt Hughes vs Thiago Alves - until someone other than George puts Hughes away then I pretty much take him over everyone else (except Penn) Brandon Vera vs Fabricio Werdum - interesting fight Marcus Davis vs Mike Swick - Davis has looked great, Swick looked bad at his first 170 fight. A year ago I'd have picked otherwise Chris Leben vs Michael Bisping - Leben's got a solid chin, but I think Bisping picks away and outclasses him to a decision Nate Marquardt vs Thales Leites Rashad Evans vs James Irvin - not expecting exciting things Martin Kampmann vs Jorge Rivera Jason Lambert vs Luis Cane Matt Wiman vs Thiago Tavares - I like Matt, but not in this fight Antoni Hardonk vs Neil Wain - Dude hits hard Roan Carneiro vs TBA - I don't pick against TBA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2008 Antoni Hardonk vs Neil Wain - Dude kicks hard Corrected for accuracy. I've never heard of Wain, but those leg kicks of Hardonk's will probably chop him down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2008 Antoni Hardonk vs Neil Wain - Dude kicks hard Corrected for accuracy. I've never heard of Wain, but those leg kicks of Hardonk's will probably chop him down. 1) a hit is a kick 2) he's finished with punches. Dude hits hard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2008 By the way, Ryo Chonan has been confirmed as Carneiro's opponet... from UFC.com. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2008 Antoni Hardonk vs Neil Wain - Dude kicks hard Corrected for accuracy. I've never heard of Wain, but those leg kicks of Hardonk's will probably chop him down. 1) a hit is a kick 2) he's finished with punches. Dude hits hard Fair enough, but his two UFC wins have basically come by kicks, and some nasty ones at that. Based my comments on those wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2008 Chinathon Goulet vs Paul Kelly is a go for this event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2008 Jeebus Crackers, Paul Taylor vs Jess Liaudin is a go for this show. 13 fights, biggest PPV in UFC history. Even though I wouldn't change that night for the world UFC really screwed over Montreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2008 I wouldn't say screwed over. They knew all they needed for an instant sell out was GSP. They need to save more of the marquee matchups for cards that might have trouble selling tickets otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2008 Okay, I'll be more specific. UFC knew GSP in the main would sell out easily so they neglected to make anything out of the card, thus we got screwed because UFC knew they could slack and did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2008 Yeah that's accurate but it's also sorta smart. I just read that UFC 81 (Lesnar/Mir and Nog/Timmay) only drew 7000 paid despite it's huge PPV numbers. If they have a situation where they are going to sell out no matter what... I don't want to say they should slack off on those cards, but they shouldn't stack them either. Because what happens if they stack a card like Montreal and then just by luck of the draw a Vegas PPV ends up with a shit card. Then they are double fucked. I know it sucks for you guys up North but I hope you can see what I'm getting at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2008 Oh yeah. Dana's a businessman at the end of the day and even though it would've been nice to see 83 loaded up like 84 and 85 he needed to better alocate his bigger names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2008 Eh. Danzig had a solid debut, showed areas of strengths and weaknesses that he can use to improve upon. A good fight for him. Maia upped himself in the division big time by beating Herman. Franklin and MacDonald are sorta just floating so their wins didn't really do anything. Clementi furthered himself after the win over Stout. Bisping looked impressive in beating Chainsaw, a good start for him at 185 and something to build from. Day had a huge debut and put himself in the mix immediately. Cain debuted, which might turn into something for the future. Starnes and Quarry shit the bed and the win just builds Nate to get destroyed somewhere down the line by a real contender. All in all, not a particularly impactful show, but somewhat relevant as a card to build guys. Guys moved up the ranks. Always good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
