MMA Comments that Don't Warrant a Thread

[AboveAverage484 0]

So I was surfing around DVDR and somebody had the balls to mention Jeff Monson as possibly the number 3 HW in the world behind Fedor and Sylvia (which is debatable itself). It bears mentioning that this was a mod as well.

[Lei Tong 0]

Judging by my BK experience, Monson has a suprising amount of nuthuggers.

 

Luckily, none of them can refute the fact that Monson is a hotheaded, oft-boring piece of shit.

[Guest Army Eye]

I don't think Sylvia being #2 is even debatable. A case cannot be made for that.

 

Monson #3 is even more out there... He's maybe top 3 in UFC

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I don't know how you can even decide #3 unless you look at overall ability and how the fighter stacks up against the rest of the division. Because if you look at it from a "this guy beat this guy" perspective, your head will explode.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

SPIKETV.com has the last two Forrest Griffin vids up - a pre fight one, and a post fight one. The post fight one is particularly excellent, and a near total change of pace from the previous ones. Forrest talks about losing and how he regrets not pushing more in the third round and how he has to live with that feeling. Plus he goes to the doctor where he comments on the irony that the treatment of his cuts hurts much more than the punches and elbows which caused them.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

BEHOLD THE AWESOME

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CosM-f6V_sg

 

Cro Cop vs. Fedor Promo Vid before their fight at the GP Finals.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ObrQxYAIo&search=pride

 

Also: The Opening ceremony from the event

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG8Mc-ktME4

 

The end credits to the quarter-finals (I think this was posted before, but fuck it, its hilarious)

 

As much as I love the UFC, PRIDE just smokes it in terms of presentation. Nothing can top Wanderleis kid wearing a cookie monster Tshirt, or the Chute Boxe team yelling HEEEEEY! in Shoguns ears.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Igor's wife vs Fedor's wife- book it!

[Guest Brian]

I was looking for Takada in the diaper beating the big drum. No such luck.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

http://streaming1.vidilife.com/vidilife/vi.../5216/48203.wmv

 

The 20 Greatest Comebacks in UFC/PRIDE. Great vid. Not so great music.

[Guest Askewniverse]

This is probably old, but I haven't seen it posted here recently:

 

Never do this during a staredown.

[Lei Tong 0]

Notable ROTR results:

 

- Okami gets completely robbed against Shields in the semifinals, with the judges arguably costing him the tournament.

 

- The "Trigg is unsubbable from up top" myth is exposed, as Condit submits him easily via triangle.

 

- Shields claims he thought his JD over Okami was fair, and then in usual fashion humps Condit for the win as I recall why I really fucking hate Shields.

 

- Hironaka further proves how underrated he is, and thus how good Aoki really is, as he TKO's a retiring Charuto in Rd.2. Though, he still hits like a girl.

 

- Hamanka submits Cabbage via kimura and basically kills any legitimacy he has left... which is none.

 

My new WW Top 10:

 

1) Matt Hughes

2) Georges St. Pierre

3) BJ Penn

4) Shinya Aoki

5) Akira Kikuchi

6) Karo Parisyan

7) Jake Shields

8) Diego Sanchez

9) Sean Sherk

10) Kuniyoshi Hironaka

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I was going to start a thread about this but until I can get a more confirmed source........

 

Dana was doing a radio interview and said that because of his leg injury Tito will be unable to face Shamrock in July. Instead, we get the man whom Tito beat one week ago from today, Forrest Griffin. Sleazy D also mentioned that we'll be seeing the Sylvia/AA rematch on this card. Also something to be noted is Dana talking about bringing in Pulver and Faber for the LW or perhaps even a FW division and how he has a "huge" LW match coming up. My guess is going with Sherk/Stevenson.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Forrest Griffin is going to lay a beating on Shamrock.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I'm not going to place an avatar on it or nothing () but I think Forrest will have a tough time with Ken. Shamrock can take a beating and he's a better striker then any of the guys Forrest has faced recently.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

I'm not going to place an avatar on it or nothing () but I think Forrest will have a tough time with Ken. Shamrock can take a beating and he's a better striker then any of the guys Forrest has faced recently.

 

Shamrock is just too old for beat any legit contenders for any title.

[Lei Tong 0]

Shamrock is not a better striker than Bonnar, who's easily as durable, with a more well rounded game. Forrest may not have the power to crack an egg or Tito's chin, but has a huge advantage on the ground, and if he's smart he'll wear ken out in the clinch, trip him up, and bust his head open from mount.

[Adam 0]

I'm very, very happy with that outcome. Look what it did for Rich to KO Ken. Forrest's already a star, he'd better knock Ken out.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

- The "Trigg is unsubbable from up top" myth is exposed, as Condit submits him easily via triangle.

 

Let's not get ridiculous here. Condit's guard isn't better than Machado's, Charuto's or Hallman's. This just means that Trigg is old and his head is not in it anymore.

 

*Sigh* I'm gonna miss seeing him beat the crap out of ADCC Champions.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Also, Condit's wins over Trigg and Charuto are more impressive than beating Diaz. Especially since he beat them in a combined two minutes or something.

[Lei Tong 0]

Also, Condit's wins over Trigg and Charuto are more impressive than beating Diaz. Especially since he beat them in a combined two minutes or something.

 

Not really. Trigg finally got ranked after beating Charuto, and never really did a whole lot else in his career other than troubling Sakurai & Hughes. In reality, the rest of his wins peak with Jhun, whom he struggled against.

 

As for Charuto, I'll admit that I vastly overrated him. The Castillo win seemed nice, until we all realized Castillo isn't shit anymore and was never that good to begin with. Then there's Newton, who was in the middle of a 1-4 streak and failing to make weight. Charuto put up arguably his best performance against Hughes, but it's always very dangerous to rank someone on a performance in loss, which I and many others did. His sole win since the Newton fight is over Nakanishi.

 

Condit's a damn good prospect, but the fact is Kitaoka, who's outside of the Top 15, put him and his homeboy Schulte in their place not that long ago, and you even just admitted that you think Trigg's loss can be chalked up to age.

 

I'll agree I may have overrated Sherk, simply due to my refusal to rank "Time Out" Fitch.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I'm pretty sure Trigg was ranked before his first fight with Hughes. Again, if he shouldn't have been ranked, who would you have placed ahead of him?

 

Condit's dominating performances over two very solid guys (one of which was a concensus top three fighter in the WW division, even if he is old now) and has a more solid resume than either Sanchez or Parisyan at this point. Sherk perhaps as well.

 

This list is too Jap-friendly. As their people grow larger, so does their status in higher ranked divisions in MMA.

[Lei Tong 0]

I'm pretty sure Trigg was ranked before his first fight with Hughes. Again, if he shouldn't have been ranked, who would you have placed ahead of him?

 

 

Hughes, Silva, Kato, Newton, Sherk, Nakao, Sakurai, Shields, Kunioku & possibly Shields.

 

Condit's dominating performances over two very solid guys (one of which was a concensus top three fighter in the WW division, even if he is old now) and has a more solid resume than either Sanchez or Parisyan at this point. Sherk perhaps as well.

 

...no. Karo has a several Top 10 caliber wins (Lytle, Diaz, Thompson) to Condit's one, and I honestly think beating even a lackluster Diaz trumps the Trigg win, and I'd say Diaz could've beaten Trigg at anytime over the past year or so.

 

And if you want to rank Condit, what of Prater & Kitaoka? Or Noble & Inoue?

 

 

This list is too Jap-friendly. As their people grow larger, so does their status in higher ranked divisions in MMA.

 

...what? Shields, whom just beat Condit and likely climbed in everyone's rankings, got handily defeated by Kikuchi the last tiem they faced. Kikuchi has also smashed Morgan, Inoue, Ikemoto & Brudvik, and taken close ones over Kiuma & Nakao.

 

Aoki, in turn, handily beat Kikuchi, and mugged Hironaka, Ikemoto & Wisniewski. His two losses? A robbery against a mid-rejuvination Sakurai and a win turned loss via Nakao's backpeddaling KO special.

 

Hironaka is a bit more controversial, but he holds a close one over a ready-to-breakthrough Diaz, and in his last three fights has finished Wada, Schultz & Charuto.

 

Each has loss to almost completely Top 10 caliber guys, and would probably take the majority of the North Americans hovering from 10-20.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Your list having too many Japanese fighters was a joke. I'm not racist I swear.

 

You're getting into too much MMAth with the Condit ranking. The Prater win was long ago, and he has sort of become a different fighter since then. That would be like saying after Matt Hughes won the first time against Newton that Hallman should have been the top ranked fighter in the world. Last I checked you had Fisher at the ten slot a couple of months ago. Should Prater have been ranked ahead of him then too?

[Lei Tong 0]

My bad. I thought I remembered the Prater fight having been much more recent than it was.

 

However, the Kitaoka thing is hard to argue with, IMO.

 

Though, now that I think about it, a win over Diaz doesn't mean as much as it once did, so I'm thinking of dropping Sherk (whose wins have otherwise been against also-rans), and Diego (whose other wins come at MW).

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Kitaoka is hard to argue with, but maybe he's just that good?

 

Diaz is not the fighter that many thought he was. Three losses in a row will make anyone look bad really, especially when one is against a guy that will soon be dropping in weight. None of them were really controversial either. Great, he stuffed Sherk's takedown, but what did he do in the standup to take advantage of that?

[Lei Tong 0]

Kitaoka's good, but he's not that good. Top 20 definitely, but Top 15 is arguable.

[I like Forums 0]

I'm curious as to what you guys have as your Top 10 Lightweights right now.

[Lei Tong 0]

1) Aurelio

2) Gomi

3) Kawajiri

4) Ribeiro

5) Sakurai

6) Hansen

7) Ishida

8) Yamamoto

9) Hominick

10) Edwards/Boku

[Lei Tong 0]

Of course, Aurelio is living on Mark Hunt-style borrowed time at #1.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

An interview with the highly overrated and clearly shitty Joachim Hansen.

 

INTERVIEW OF THE WEEK: JOACHIM HANSEN

 

With his most recent win at Bushido 10 Joachim “Hellboy” Hansen continues to show why he is one of the world’s top lightweight fighters. In that evening’s most exciting fight Hansen went toe to toe with Luiz Azeredo standing and on the ground before ending the fight with a KO kick.

 

Now currently awaiting his next call to action Joachim took time out to speak to MMAWeekly from his native Norway to discuss the win over Azeredo, his Shooto fight with Tatsuya Kawajiri, and his goals for the remainder of 2006.

 

MMAWeekly: First off Joachim congratulations on your win at Bushido 10. Tell us how you are feeling after the fight.

 

Joachim Hansen: It was a very tough fight. It was also important to win that fight because I want to climb the ladder and hopefully get a chance to fight (Takanori) Gomi soon. He lost, so I don’t know what’s going to happen now with the future. I think Gomi has to have another fight with Aurelio and stuff first.

 

MMAWeekly: Did the fight itself go as you expected?

 

Joachim Hansen: Yeah it did. I’ve seen some fights of him and he was as I expected, pretty wild style and throws everything. It can end in a knockout like that when you fight a guy that kind of unpredictable style. Suddenly they can duck into something if you kick or something like that.

 

MMAWeekly: During the fight you were exchanging punches with Azeredo while on the ground. Is that a reaction type situation or was it purposeful?

 

Joachim Hansen: It’s a little bit of mental game, trying to break his will. I know that a lot of people are watching and they like that stuff, but it’s because I want to break his will, I’ve done it before also in Finnfight [laughs].

 

MMAWeekly: After the fight on the American PPV you said that he thought he was crazy but you are also. Is Joachim Hansen the craziest fighter in MMA?

 

Joachim Hansen: I won’t say that [laughs]. Probably you have to be a little crazy to do this sport, so probably a couple more guys (are crazier).

 

MMAWeekly: As you mentioned Takanori Gomi lost to Marcus Aurelio later in the evening. After the fight there was a shot of you in the crowd and you had a very disparaged look on your face.

 

Joachim Hansen: I wasn’t disappointed because Marcus Aurelio deserved to win because he beat him. But after my fight in the interviews and also before the fight they were asking me all the time if I wanted to fight Gomi, so everyone expected him to win. I think he has a lot of pressure on himself but you never know, Marcus Aurelio is a great fighter, but when I was standing there I think everyone thinks when someone wins a lot that they think they are unbeatable. So it was a strange atmosphere in the whole place.

 

MMAWeekly: Were you disappointed it wasn’t you who beat Gomi first in Pride?

 

Joachim Hansen: Of course, I was kind of thinking, “that should be me.” But I’m not the only fighter, there’s a lot of great fighters and you have no guarantee to win. If you prepare good and stuff like that you can always have a good chance to win, but the other guy is doing the same so you have no guarantee to win.

 

MMAWeekly: That fight was a non-title fight, so Gomi and Aurelio have to fight again to determine the Champion, which will delay your shot at the title for a bit. What do you think about those non-title rules?

 

Joachim Hansen: I think it’s kind of strange because I think a loss is a loss. They (Pride) may want to have the title fight on a bigger show and maybe make it a bigger spectacle with more audience and stuff. I don’t know why, but it’s kind of strange, I would feel like that if I had a belt and were beaten that in spirit he took my belt or something.

 

MMAWeekly: Okay let’s talk about your fight earlier this year against Tatsuya Kawajiri in Shooto. That was a title fight but ended just a few seconds in after a low blow to Kawajiri. Do you feel that’s a fight you need to rematch?

 

Joachim Hansen: I think I have to fight him again because that fight was so…that fight was a strange feeling I felt. I tried to kick him with an inside low kick and he’s shorter than me and I think he stepped forward or to the side or something. At first I didn’t realize it happened, it was totally silent in the hall, it was pretty not fun. We were talking after the fight and he was okay and stuff. I feel like we have unfinished business, but not in a bad way.

 

MMAWeekly: Would you rather that fight be in Pride or in Shooto for the title again?

 

Joachim Hansen: I think they want to make it a title fight in Shooto. I think, I don’t know, but I have a feeling I have a feeling that I have to fight Kawajiri before I fight Gomi. We’ll see what happens because I think Gomi has to fight Aurelio again.

 

MMAWeekly: It may be a while before Gomi and Aurelio get their situation worked out, so will you take fights between now and then or will you wait for them before you get your shot?

 

Joachim Hansen: I really don’t know. I think I’ll take some fights also. I also have to win because I want to feel like I deserve to fight for the belt. It’s kind of a strange situation. I think the fans in Japan want to see me and Gomi fight, but for me I want to feel like I deserve it.

 

MMAWeekly: You’ve been fighting pretty much non-stop for over a year, has all that training and fighting had any effect on you?

 

Joachim Hansen: I think that it is like that in all sports that if you want to be on top you have to take a way a something else. So I feel sometimes that I don’t have a very active social life because I’m always in the gym on top of other men [laughs]. I’ve been more between the legs of men than I have been between the legs of women [laughs]. I kind of feel that sometimes that I get rusty in the social part of my life.

 

You know right after Christmas I started preparations for the Kawajiri fight, I was disqualified and I didn’t know what happened so I just continued training hard. I had two boxing fights and then I had the Azeredo fight. So I’ve had all this hard training since Christmas, but right now with Easter happening, I’ve just been training normal training, so I feel like I’ve loaded up the batteries a little bit. It’s also important to have rest and get your body healed up because you get lots of small injuries when you’re training hard.

 

I’m not half-dead when I come home from training and I feel that I’m getting better. I think I also learn how to prepare better, because it’s not how much you train, it’s how good you train. You don’t have to train hard all of the time. You can have training, eating, and resting. I’m best at one thing, that’s training, I learn, so I think I’m going to be better.

 

MMAWeekly: All right, before we head out I wanted to mention that you’re a very popular fighter in America and I know fans would love to see you fight over here again. Are there any chances we could see you in the States anytime soon?

 

Joachim Hansen: I’ve been thinking about it and I hope to fight there. I fought there one time in Euphoria, but right now I don’t know what’s going to happen. My contract is not finished with Pride, I want to fight Gomi and all that stuff, but I want to fight in America. I’m also checking out websites like MMAWeekly and the other major ones and I see I have good support from the Americans, so thank you for that.

 

MMAWeekly: Good stuff Joachim, thank you as always for your time. Is there anything you want to say in conclusion?

 

Joachim Hansen: I hope to be victorious this year. I have to stay in shape, stay away from injuries and continue to be brutal to my enemies up in the ring. For the supporters and fans of MMA, I think fighters should think about them more, because they have helped us to make this sport where it is today. Of course you have to have the fighters that go up and fight and I think it’s so big and still growing because of the fans that keep pushing it. Again I would like to say a big thank you to the fans around the world.

 

By: Mick Hammond

MMA WEEKLY

 

POSTED -- 04/25/06