MMA Comments that Don't Warrant a Thread

[Lei Tong 0]

Grabbed from BK, which was grabbed from elsewhere:

 

Brandon Vera rumors

Hey everyone,

 

As a whitebelt I'm sure this will not be taken seriously, but if there is some truth to this maybe it will boost my Sherdog street cred. I ran a search and I don't think it has been mentioned yet, apologies if I couldn't find it. Maybe someone affiliated with City Boxing can confirm or deny.

 

I have a friend who trains at City Boxing, and she talks to Vera on a semi-regular basis. I sent her an email after the whole Pride-UFC deal and asked if that would have any bearings on whether or not Vera resigns with the UFC since it looks like he is headed to EliteXC.

 

I received a phone call yesterday and my friend told me that it's crazy over at CB. She told me that the owner of CB is/was also in charge of handling Vera's contract negotiations, and that the manager turned down a one year extension with a six-figure bonus without consulting Vera, which made him livid. She said it is a deal Vera would have accepted and that he is actively trying to get this offer back on the table.

 

 

Apparently there's some pretty big fallout from this, with Brandon, the head BJJ instructor, and another trainer all leaving City boxing. Vera's planning to open his own gym.

 

Take it for what it's worth, a whitebelt posting a rumor. I don't know if my friend has her facts straight but it's something the MMA community should know about incase it's true. Hopefully someone affiliated with City Boxing can confirm that CB's owner is Vera's manager, that Brandon has left the camp, and that he's actively trying to reup with the UFC for the money that his manager was offered.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

It all makes sense now.

 

Fuck BK anyways, they stole Brainuse

[Lord of The Curry 0]

 

MW rankings go out the window (again) as Robbie Lawler kills Frank Trigg dead and reclaims his MW belt at the ICON show in Hawaii last night.

[KingPK 0]

Damn, those last two shots were just icing on the cake.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Actually, the last three were. He was dropping on the first punch.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Damn. I was glad to see Frank on a roll again. I hope he can rebound from this

[Lord of The Curry 0]

It's not like the Misaki fight was particularly taxing for Frank but against somebody with Lawler's power this was a risky fight to take on short notice. Having said that, you could train all you want but if you eat a shot like that you're going down no matter how much prepared you are.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Unless the reason why you took that shot was due to bad cardio, which it was. Still, I'd like to see him bounce back. No excuses in this fight really, Lawler is just a bad matchup for Trigg. I'd still like to see Trigg get thrown in the Zuffa MW mix.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Bad cardio my ass. Somebody could be fresh as a fucking daisy and take a shot like that and go down.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I am watching Fedor vs. Noguiera I again. I still get excited and amazed by it, and I've seen it at least 50 times.

 

I can't believe it was 4 years ago. That was a lifetime ago for MMA.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

It's pretty good.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

You also know what's pretty good?

 

YOUR IMPENDING DOOM!!!!!!

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

The point is if your cardio is gone you drop your hands, are much less likely to push the pace which is in itself a defence against his punching as it keeps him busy (Fatigue makes cowards of us all), and your recovery time from a big shot is much smaller.

 

You'd be crazy to think bad cardio has no effect on defending yourself from strikes.

 

I was thinking four years ago was a lifetime in MMA as well, but then I realized that the game hasn't evolved much. There are very few fighters who have come out that have been much more well-rounded in terms of their skills when compared to the top guys back then. The growth rate in terms of skill-set has been much slower in the past four years then in the four years before that.

[Angel_Grace_Blue 0]

So I saw a recent ESPN The Magazine (I know, it's not quite the pinnacle in sports journalism, but bear with me), and Liddell's name was on the cover. I flip through it, and he's on the penultimate page, an interview with Dan Patrick. Anyway, Dan asks Chuck how a fight between him and Shaq would turn out, to which Chuck answers it'd be as one-sided as if he were to play O'Neal in basketball.

 

Of course, he mentions that a smaller, trained fighter would always beat a larger, untrained one because a trained fighter gets hit and whatnot, but I kept thinking in the back of my mind "Yeah, but Shaq's fist is the size of Chuck."

 

Anyone else wanna see Chuck go against Shaqasaurus?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I was thinking four years ago was a lifetime in MMA as well, but then I realized that the game hasn't evolved much. There are very few fighters who have come out that have been much more well-rounded in terms of their skills when compared to the top guys back then. The growth rate in terms of skill-set has been much slower in the past four years then in the four years before that.

 

 

Well, I meant it more in a "2003 wasn't really that long ago, but it feels like a lifetime in MMA", but what you present here is an interesting discussion point, with us coming up on the sports 15th year. 1993-1998 vs. 1998-2003 vs. 2003-2008. In the long-run, we are still probably in what is considered MMA's formative years*, though standing in it now, it's easier to see more distinct rings in the tree stump, so to speak, in terms of the sports development. From 1993-1998, we went from one-style fighters to cross-training. From 1998-2003, we saw a great deal of development in the "MMA style", where it wasn't about "cross-training"; it was about "total-training". 2003-now, it's not just about training styles, it's about training conditioning, strategy, and general preparation. Granted, you would see hints of what is to come in the previous "eras" (for lack of a better term), but in terms of emphasis, today it's not about knowing everything - we already know you have to know everything - it's much more scientific than it was 10 years ago, or IMO even 5 years ago. So I would say that a great deal of change has happened, but it's more like improving the engine and the breaks in a car, rather than figuring out where to put the wheels and the windows.

 

 

*MMA as we know it. Vale Tudo, which predates 1993 UFC/Pancrase, is a different subject, but needless to say, worldwide MMA growth began with the UFC*

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Marcelo Garcia is debuting in MMA soon for Gracie Fighting Championships on May 19th against Marcus Avellan. It's been pretty hit-or-miss for elite Jiu Jitsu guys to make it in MMA, but it's hard to find anyone better than Marcelo and he has been very successful at no-gi grappling, so I hope his transition to MMA is a smooth one because him at 155 would be something.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

In a post-fight interview Lawler full-out admits that he threw that last punch out of spite because he doesn't like Trigg. At least he's honest.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Hughes spoke a bit of trash on Trigg from his website. Not big fans of Twinkle Toes at MFS?

[Bruiser_Brody_ 0]

So I just placed a 100 dollar bet on Mirko over Gonzaga (at sportsbook.com). If I win I only earn 16.67..... Still it should be easy money right??

 

Right???

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Marcelo Garcia is debuting in MMA soon for Gracie Fighting Championships on May 19th against Marcus Avellan. It's been pretty hit-or-miss for elite Jiu Jitsu guys to make it in MMA, but it's hard to find anyone better than Marcelo and he has been very successful at no-gi grappling, so I hope his transition to MMA is a smooth one because him at 155 would be something.

 

Marcelo's style is not as adaptable for MMA, and unless he makes some major changes he's going to have some problems. Odds are he'll get KO'ed by a good striker with a wrestling background sometime soon.

 

Armdrags from your back barely ever work in MMA.

[Lei Tong 0]

So I just placed a 100 dollar bet on Mirko over Gonzaga (at sportsbook.com). If I win I only earn 16.67..... Still it should be easy money right??

 

Right???

 

Yes, though if it'll make your nights slightly restless, Gonzaga is a better wrestler than most of his BJJ counterparts and recently won his weight division at Mundials.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I'm hyping up Gonzaga big time. I know the guy won't win but the lack of a shot people are giving him is ludicrous. I would have felt more comfortable if he slowly worked his way up the ladder, but at this point as long as he comes in shape he still has a tremendous chance to pull off the upset. He's tapped some tough guys in ADCC (PDP for one) and has adapted his style really well for MMA. He's far different than he was back when he lost to Werdum.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

He also has a huge head which makes for a nice, big target.

[Lei Tong 0]

If you want to make fun of Gonzaga's physical features, how in the hell are you going to ignore his upturned pig nose? Come on.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I was going to get around to it eventually.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Were my eyes playing tricks on me...or was that Samoa Joe in Melvin's lockerroom at the start of UFN last night?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Why don't they just call it MMArijuana? Like 90% of the two dozen fighters tested positive for THC.

 

And WOW was Bas doped up.

 

California State Athletic Commission Positive Drug Tests for MMA Fighters

 

-March 10, 2006: Strikeforce; Cesar Gracie tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-May 13, 2006: International Cage Fighting Organization; Tim McKenzie tested positive for Benzodiazepines (frequently found in anti-anxiety drugs and muscle relaxants); suspended for 6 months

 

-June 3, 2006: Extreme Wars 3; Anthony Ruiz tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-June 9, 2006: Strikeforce Revenge; Harris Sarmiento tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-June 15, 2006: WEC 21; Joe Hurley tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-June 15, 2006: WEC 21; Ryan Healy tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-June 17, 2006: Invincible- Fists of Fury; Randal Limond tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-July 1, 2006: Gladiator Challenge 51; Emmanuel Newton tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-July 15, 2006: Total Combat 15; Shawn Bias tested positive for Benzodiazepines (frequently found in anti-anxiety drugs and muscle relaxants); suspended for 6 months

 

-July 22, 2006: World Fighting Alliance; Bas Rutten tested positive for Hydrocodone (prescription painkiller), Morphine (prescription painkiller), and Diphenhydramine (antihistamine with common brand name Benadryl); suspended for 6 months

 

-July 22, 2006: World Fighting Alliance; Lodune Sincaid tested positive for Cannabinoids/Marijuana Metabolite; suspended for 3 months

 

-August 12, 2006: Warrior Cup; Chuck Booz tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-August 18, 2006: Pangea Fights 2; Aaron Brink tested positive for Cannabinoids (substances found in cannabis) and Benzodiazepines (frequently found in anti-anxiety drugs and muscle relaxants); suspended for 6 months

 

-August 19, 2006: California Xtreme Fighting 3; Mike Penalber tested positive for Amphetamine; suspended for 6 months

 

-August 19, 2006: Total Fighting Alliance; Jesse Romero tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-September 30, 2006: Chaos in the Cage; Paul Mince tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-September 30, 2006: Xtreme International Kombat; Ty Montgomery tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-October 26, 2006: Valor Fighting; Jamiah Williamson tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-November 4, 2006: Cage Combat Fighting Championships; Joe Hurley tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 6 months as a repeat offender

 

-November 4, 2006: Total Combat 18; Shad Smith tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-November 17, 2006: Beatdown in Bakersfield; Ricco Rodriguez tested positive for Benzoylecgonine (major metabolite of cocaine) and Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 6 months

 

-December 13, 2006: UFC Fight Night 7; Diego Sanchez tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

 

-February 17, 2007: Cage Combat Fighting Championships; Nate Loughran tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Now you know why I love it so much.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Were my eyes playing tricks on me...or was that Samoa Joe in Melvin's lockerroom at the start of UFN last night?

That was Joe. He was with Justin McCully; they go back to UPW and Zero One together.

 

UFN was ok. I thought Florian and Mishima had a fun little fight, and even though Florian controlled most of the fight, Mishima hung in there almost until the bell, and I was really hoping he'd score a win with the heel hook.

 

Antoni Hardonk vs. Justin McCully was ok for the most part, but I found it dull to be honest.

 

Joe Stevenson vs. Melvin Guillard was shockingly quick. I was hoping for Melvin to put in a good showing at least, and I was wanting him to win, but he got schooled.

[razazteca 0]

Am I crazy do I did just see pro wrestler Miliano Collection AT being promoted to be at the UFC event in Houston?