LivingLegendGaryColeman Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Got this from Rajah.com TMZ.com is reporting that Jamal Grinnage, Eric Murray and Daryl Pittman (Lil' Fame, Billy Danze and Pittman from rap group M.O.P.) have filed a federal lawsuit against World Wrestling Entertainment and John Cena claiming that John Cena's song, "Time Is Now" borrows heavily from their hit song "Ante Up." The official court documents can be read here. In lawsuit claims that WWE's lawyers actually found somebody to sign off on the license who was only a receptionist and did not have authority to sign anything. The biggest point of actual musical contention is one non-English line, "BRRR Abado", that appears in the original song once, and in Cena's theme song three times. Grinnage and Murray are seeking for the destruction of Cena's theme song and $150,000 in damages from the defendants. It's possible WWE may have to stop selling any WWE DVDs featuring Cena's music and edit the music out of all footage they intend to broadcast in the future. No word yet from Cena or WWE.
Brett Favre Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Go back to Basic Thugonamics. That song ruled. Not that I have a problem with this one, but we're talking about Basic Thugonamics here.
ChrisMWaters Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 I can predict that this will end out of court.
JHawk Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Did Vanilla Ice ever lose a lawsuit based off of Ice Ice Baby, which was a more blatant ripoff of a popular song than Cena's shitty music?
Mecha Mummy Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Vanilla Ice settled out of court and songwriting credits went to Queen and David Bowie. Go back to Basic Thugonamics. That song ruled. Not that I have a problem with this one, but we're talking about Basic Thugonamics here. Agreed. Basic Thuganomics was a fantastic theme
BUTT Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 The Vanilla Ice/Queen thing was settled out of court. I like how that report says they are seeking "the destruction of Cena's theme song." I want you to open up Pro Tools and record static over every one of those instrument tracks!
cabbageboy Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 The first thing I thought when I saw this thread was that Cena needs to go back to Basic Thuganomics. Thing is, he's mostly dropped the rap gimmick.
ChrisMWaters Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 The first thing I thought when I saw this thread was that Cena needs to go back to Basic Thuganomics. Thing is, he's mostly dropped the rap gimmick. That reminds me of something funny from No Way Out 2004. Before the Triple Threat match between Cena, Angle and Big Show, they did one of the "Tale of the Tape" things. Under career achievements, the best they could do for Cena (as he had not yet won a title in the company) was put "PhD in Thuganomics".
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Did Vanilla Ice ever lose a lawsuit based off of Ice Ice Baby, which was a more blatant ripoff of a popular song than Cena's shitty music? Ice did an interview on VH-1 about the comparison, and his contention was that because of the one extra note added to the melody at the start of IIB, that the melody was completely different and nothing like the one on Under Pressure. This lawsuit seems like an attempt to get a quick buck. WWE will probably pay a nominal amount to make them go away.
Papacita Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 I'm pretty sure that the sound in question (the "BRRR Abado" thing) is an actual recording from the M.O.P. song. I actually remember some people on here thinking M.O.P. was gonna be on it when it first came out. As small as it was, they could have some merit if they didn't get permission/ Agreed they should go back to Basic Thuganomics, though.
haws bah gawd Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 I'll gladly have them go back to his awesome Thuganomics theme. I hate "The Time is Now", mainly because it made a good theme going into his first world title win, but now really serves no purpose. THE TIME IS NOW......FOR MY 4TH TITLE REIGN! Lame.
Wrestlefreak Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 I would be very surprised if WWE won this case should it fully play out in court. The sample in question is clearly stolen from the other rap track. I'd never even heard of MOP until now, but I just saw the "Ante Up" video and I was amazed WWE could be this blatant. They will have to settle if the case is not dismissed.
FroGG_NeaL Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 It's "BRRRRR Avenue!" It's one of M.O.P's signature phrases. Plus the structure of the songs and beats are similar. Between their Roca Fella and G-Unit deals, I'd say M.O.P have plenty of money. I can see this case causing more damage then you guys are thinking.
The Niggardly King Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 He'll just rap a new theme, and it'll feature Method Man on it.
FroGG_NeaL Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 "It's possible WWE may have to stop selling any WWE DVDs featuring Cena's music and edit the music out of all footage they intend to broadcast in the future." There's the part that can really hurt the WWE.
Jaxxson Mayhem Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 It's "BRRRRR Avenue!" It's one of M.O.P's signature phrases. Plus the structure of the songs and beats are similar. Between their Roca Fella and G-Unit deals, I'd say M.O.P have plenty of money. I can see this case causing more damage then you guys are thinking. Agreed. MOP's not some underground rap group needing the money.
ChrisMWaters Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 As for the "Basic Thuganomics" vs. "The Time is Now" argument... One thing "The Time is Now" has over "Basic Thuganomics." The latter can't be done Marching Band, I don't think.
TheFranchise Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 I must admit to never having heard 'Ante Up'. But i've just downloaded it now, and I must say, apart from a couple of tiny screaming noises and the first vocals you hear, there's really nothing in this. The song really doesn't' have that much resemblance. Edit: Now I go and listen to Cena's track.. the intros are quite similar on a certain level.
The Truthiness Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 These dweebs haven't dropped shit in forever.
dubq Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 I like MOP - I hope they win this. They also had a really good track on the DJV soundrack with CNN - Stomp the Shit Out Ya.
Mr. S£im Citrus Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 Fuck it. I like "Time is Now," and I don't care if I'm the only one. I really dig those horns.
The Niggardly King Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 So do I... the trumpets make that shit EPIC
FroGG_NeaL Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 Oh, mos def. Live, them shits are amazing.
Enigma Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 Wow, that sample is EXACTLY the same. WWE/Cena is fucked.
RepoMan Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 I don't know much about music copyright law, but if having the same brrrrrrr counts as some sort of plagirism, the law is BS.
Enigma Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 I don't know much about music copyright law, but if having the same brrrrrrr counts as some sort of plagirism, the law is BS. Why? That part of the song is blatantly stolen from the original song. It doesn't even sound re-created. It sounds like a ganked sample from the original song. And Cena's music has been attached to a ton of things that made WWE a shitton of money. That's a total violation.
Prophet of Mike Zagurski Posted October 29, 2008 Report Posted October 29, 2008 His theme is my ringtone.... The WWE really dropped the ball on this and after discussing all the stuff they edit out of their DVD's, this can go on the list too.
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