NitroJMS 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2008 I saw the dark match at Raw. Tomko looked in decent shape and maybe slightly bulkier than he used to be. Think more Batista-ish than before. He also got a good pop from the live crowd upon his return and win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truthiness 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2008 Tomko knew he wanted to go to WWE after the TNA/Japan deals fell through, he should've been juicing up before he got signed, then cycled off when he realised he was getting signed. I hope you're not serious. Suggesting that a wrestler should juice to get into the WWE in this day and age? I realize that Tomko probably does use, but that's pretty stupid to expect it of him. Kind of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MGFanJay 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Did Tomko not train since he left TNA? Or is it just because Tomko isn't muscled up like Batista or even Kane? I'm not too surprised at his look - he looked about the same during his one-shot return against Joe in the Nash gauntlet on Impact. He's looking very "well", which is good for his long-term health, but perhaps very bad for his short-term future. It's sad to think that in about a year, he went from seemingly becoming a main event regular in TNA to now being out of a job just about anywhere. Edited December 22, 2008 by MGFanJay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haws bah gawd 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2008 Did Tomko not train since he left TNA? Or is it just because Tomko isn't muscled up like Batista or even Kane? I'm not too surprised at his look - he looked about the same during his one-shot return against Joe in the Nash gauntlet on Impact. He's looking very "well", which is good for his long-term health, but perhaps very bad for his short-term future. It's sad to think that in about a year, he went from seemingly becoming a main event regular in TNA to now being out of a job just about anywhere. Did Tomko burn all his bridges when he left TNA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2008 From what I remember reading, it's not that he burned his bridges, but the TNA higher ups weren't happy about him wrestling in Japan against their wishes. And the fact that he got injured while there didn't bode to well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2008 Going against your supervisor's wishes and getting hurt and then signing with the competition is kinda the definition of "burning a bridge" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2008 I think it's been pretty well-established that there's no such thing as burning a bridge in pro wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2008 I think it's been pretty well-established that there's no such thing as burning a bridge in pro wrestling. OOOOOOOOOOH YEAAAAAAAAAAH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2008 I think it's been pretty well-established that there's no such thing as burning a bridge in pro wrestling. OOOOOOOOOOH YEAAAAAAAAAAH. Everyone and their mother knows that Vince & Savage will kiss and make up one day. Vince & Bischoff working together is the penultimate example that there is never a burned bridge in wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2008 Vince will forgive anyone that he thinks he can make money with. If he thought that the Warrior would put money in his pocket...they'd call him. If TNA folds and he decided he wants the tape library...Jarrett would be working as a road agent the next day. Hogan's been back and forth and buried and praised Vince so many times and it doesn't matter. He's mad at Foley now...but you know he'll be back. Savage, on the other hand... There's no public falling out to note...but there's an obvious ban going on. Something must have happened. There's money to be made with him in the Hall of Fame and a DVD release...but that phone hasn't rung in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2008 Irony Alert: TheFranchise is reading our discussion on burning bridges, and I was just about to bring up Target's own Shane Douglas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2008 I think it's been pretty well-established that there's no such thing as burning a bridge in pro wrestling. Agreed. If this can happen, anything is possible: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Does Jeff Hardy's winning of the title diminish any future payoff to the stairwell attacker storyline? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Irony Alert: TheFranchise is reading our discussion on burning bridges, and I was just about to bring up Target's own Shane Douglas Oh, but if you listen to The LAW this is not ironic, it's a coincidence! See, because irony has nothing to do with coincidences, or something... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theone 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 -- It definitely appears that Christian Cage is returning to World Wrestling Entertainment after spending the past three years in TNA. There have already been talks of holding a match between Christian & Jeff Hardy at WrestleMania 25, reports ProWrestling.NET. Cage is expected to be revealed as the mystery person in the storyline of who attacked Jeff Hardy on the morning of last month's Survivor Series pay-per-view. Still no word yet on when he'll make his official return to WWE. http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2008_/1230572281.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Jeff Hardy vs. Christian for the World Title? Maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theone 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Jeff Hardy vs. Christian for the World Title? Maybe? I'd love another winner takes all tag match with two straps on the line TLC VIII The Hardys vs Edge and Christian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Christian vs Jeffy Hardy at Mania? So Hardy loses the title at the Rumble or No Way Out I guess, cause no way that will be the world title match at wrestlemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristianna 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Christian vs Jeffy Hardy at Mania? So Hardy loses the title at the Rumble or No Way Out I guess, cause no way that will be the world title match at wrestlemania. Oh, ye of little faith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Does Jeff Hardy's winning of the title diminish any future payoff to the stairwell attacker storyline? I'd say yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Christian vs Jeffy Hardy at Mania? So Hardy loses the title at the Rumble or No Way Out I guess, cause no way that will be the world title match at wrestlemania. Oh, ye of little faith. He's right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristianna 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Christian vs Jeffy Hardy at Mania? So Hardy loses the title at the Rumble or No Way Out I guess, cause no way that will be the world title match at wrestlemania. Oh, ye of little faith. He's right. I know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 In fairness it shouldn't be, either, because Christian is not a big enough name and Jeff vs Xtian doesn't exactly scream epic match even though I like both guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 So Christian would have to cost Hardy the title - meaning more than likely Edge would win it. It would set-up Christian vs Jeff Hardy and likely Edge vs HHH (assuming HBK vs Undertaker of course). Hayes has been pushing for an Edge vs Hardy TLC match - that might be the best time to re-debut Christian. However where would Matt Hardy fit in all of this? Either at RR or whatever the Feb PPV is called these days. I still like the idea of making this an epic storyline involving not only Edge, Jeff, Christian and Matt but also involving Kizarny and Hurricane Helms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 Ugh, no more TLC matches involving Hardyz/E&C. Edge already has 1 neck operation under his belt (insert Lita joke here), and Matt has ongoing knee problems. No need to have these guys falling off/through stuff unnecessarily. I still like the idea of making this an epic storyline involving not only Edge, Jeff, Christian and Matt but also involving Kizarny and Hurricane Helms. You're fascination with Kizarny is truly bizarre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroGG_NeaL 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 That chairshot HHH gave Edge a few weeks ago on Raw was stupid. dude swung entirely too hard on him. I hope Christian gets a grand entrance back, and is pushed well. Shame about Tomko. But Hardyz/E&C 08 sounds awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarKnight 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 I still like the idea of making this an epic storyline involving not only Edge, Jeff, Christian and Matt but also involving Kizarny and Hurricane Helms. You're fascination with Kizarny is truly bizarre. I have no idea why he mentioned Hurricane Helms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 I have no idea why he mentioned Hurricane Helms. I think he said he prefers Helms as a heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 I assume its because Helms and Kizarny are legitimately old friends with the Hardyz and E&C respectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 Pardon me for sounding dumb, but who is Kizarny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites