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At the Pentagon? Nope. Don't see it. That 3rd pic down shows pretty much nothing recognizable. If thats the pic I'm supposed to notice.

Hahahahahahahaha! Oh funny. Oh the burn. It hurts. Oh lordy. Hahahahahaha.

Hahahahahahahaha! Oh funny. Oh the burn. It hurts. Oh lordy. Hahahahahaha.

This is kinda funny. We need to hear from the Dalek on this matter.

Gee and maybe if there were higher paying, more rewarding jobs out there even for the "unskilled" the economy would grow because more people would have more money to spend on the stupid shit corporations insist we buy BUY BUY! Nah, that would never work.

Well they gotta siphon the money out of the war from SOMEWHERE!

Crap. I swiped it from another board. Yousendit doesn't last that long. Sorry folks. Maybe I can swipe something else. But hardly anything as good.

Misawa vs. Kawada http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IB7D9Q...2K0MFQZSYORNUBX Yes, it's THAT one. Tiger Driver of Death! Get it while it lasts.

I don't know how I feel about it either way if there is money being made on that persons name. Ortons lack of charisma is irrelevant. However, if there is still money being made for Eddies family could we look the other way if it meant his wife and kids would be taken care of?

I don't understand the point of this. If they explicitly use the death of a brother, then of course it is exploitation. The question about the Orton thing isn't really about exploitation, though. The WWE is most certainly exploiting Eddies death and has been for months, that's not the debate. The debate is whether or not they are doing it in good taste, and the level of acceptibility and consciousness and consideration that is surrounding the use of Eddies name after death. A lot of what the WWE is doing is in bad taste (pretty much everything the WWE does is in bad taste). And then there is the other question of whether or not Eddie would have "wanted it". You can't really answer that last question, but there are significant points that say Eddie wouldn't have liked someone saying he was in hell. On WOL someone made the point (I believe it was Konnan) that to say Eddie Guerrero is in hell is particularly heinous because Eddie was a proud Christian and believer in God. Here is a guy who, by many accounts, would go around and talk issues of faith with others and tried to put a positive light on things, esp. in regards to the lord. Do you think a guy that was such a proud Christian would like someone else saying he was in hell? Also, Konnan talked about how after Art Barrs death someone wanted to include it in part of a storyline or match or something, and Eddie was part in saying "No". These two things especially would suggest that there is a certain amount of disrepect being done to the name of Eddie Guerrero. Now, I don't really mind. I'm not personally offended cause the dude is dead and has more things to worry about than that. But there is no doubt what the WWE is doing is exploitative and more importantly is done in bad taste. Is your "just a thought" in anyway related to that? I'm just working it out for myself here. I think doing a tribute show like they did was fine. But I'm coming around to the idea of including him in the storyline really isn't all that kosher. At least the way thay have used him in the storyline thus far. It'll suck even worse if the heel Orton goes and says all that stuff and they goes over at Mania. Cuz who knows what they will have Orton say after THAT. Sigh.

I think the question should be don't YOU think that it WAS exploitive? I know having been alive watching it at the time that the reaction to the show was very acceptable. That it was indeed a dedication AND they made money off it. So both.

It just seems like it was ok THEN, but not ok now. I really am not sure what to think of it all. My feelings are mixed leaning towards acceptance. But if Rey or Benoit want to dedicate the rest of the careers to Eddy I won't mind. But they are going to make a living (even Vince) doing so. So I won't be bothered by it. Lets say Eddy was a fan of crazy bumps. So all his buddies go out there and have matches week after week where they dedicate some crazy bump in the match to Eddy. The announcers make a point to mention that that is what they are doing when they hit the crazy bump. Is that exploitive? Really? The man was a wrestler on a wrestling show that he suddenly wasn't a part of. I for one don't really want Eddy to get swept under the rug and forgotten. I would have been much more upset if Eddys death had been like old school WWF where everything unpleasent gets swept under the rug. No mention of any of the scandals over the years (sex or steroids). Like this groping thing is going to be. So they keep him alive in peoples minds and make him a part of the show. Like he was when he was alive. I dunno. It's a slippery slope.

Just a thought? The Texas Stadium event where Flair dropped the NWA belt to Kerry Von Erich was on the heels of one of the Von Erich brothers passing away. Do you think THAT was exploitive? I mean they did put 40,000 something people in seats that day. It might not have happened otherwise and you gotta KNOW somebody made some coin off it... just saying.

lord help me! Haha. I knew that would push your buttons. Damn, I am clever.

See, now that last sentence, coupled with your own political leanings, goes back to my initial question. You can say that it's mostly just the usual conspiracy headcases who believe in this bullshit, but something tells me that it's because a president of a particular political persuasion is in charge that makes people like you, at least on some level, say "Well, some of it could be possible......" So watch it and see for yourself. If it is so obvious that it is untrue then defend your position. COnsidering YOUR position why would it not be just as easy for us to write you off as a Bush defending headcase believing in the admins bullshit? Could it be that "a president of a particular political persuasion is in charge"? The doc. itself really isn't that good in its presentation. The voice over guy is terrible. To it's credit, there IS alot of information to take in and consider. They at least did their homework citing all their sources, asking alot of questions, and providing plenty of "answers".

Y2Jerk is a fine poster. Me? I'm an asshole. An asshole driving a Caddy. I am also a Black Lushus fan. I miss MikeSC and RobE.

Is it possible you are just projecting your own faults onto others?

My thought is very important. However, I will not share it here.

I listen to alot of right-wing radio. I don't know why, but I try to think it is because I want to hear what "the other side" has to say. What is their point? Why do they NOT think as I do? All it does is confuse me and piss me off. It does however make it easier to point fingers of racism and nazism at the right. Which isn't as much fun as it used to be.

Mmmm, pills.

Mmmm, pills.

Biohazard was never the same after Evan cut his hair. Oh, wait this is NoCal. Down for Life.. um... Bro.

"And breathing air in America is STILL free! God Bless us all!" *Crowd goes batshit*

I boo them all the time.

I think if the arguement can't get past the finger pointing of "well THEY did it first" there will never be a solution. Hence, there will never be a solution.