Corey_Lazarus

"Auschwitz The meaning of pain The way that I want you to die" -"Angel of Death" by Slayer "Journey with me into the mind of a maniac I was doomed to be a killer since I came out of the nutsack" -"Natural Born Killaz" by Ice Cube and Dr. Dre

Rebuttal: Considering every other company with television has their best matches usually towards the main event, this is undoubtedly true.

But in TNA, it has. What has TNA built their main events around: the match, or "who will face Jeff Jarrett?" They always place an unover, uninteresting worker with average mic skills and average wrestling abilities who has a tendency to bury people to make himself look better by comparison in the main event, and that's inexcusable.

Duh. Jarrett's only big time period of actual interest came from a cheap women-abusing angle.

No, but we had a bench that was broken all the time. My high school was far from great, but it also wasn't like an inner-city school. Also, I'm not a silver spoon. I'm a silver SPORK, bitch. And Banky, my kind never leered at the "beautiful people" in school. We chatted with them, occasionally hung out with them, and made fun of them to their faces because all they would talk about is how trashed they got over the weekend on Coors Light. Yet my friend Jay can drink a whole bottle of JD and be barely buzzed. Of course, he's been an alcoholic since he was 9, but that's besides the point. Jaxl, you'd like him. Only not, because he's into Depeche Mode.

There's no way they would. I doubt Raimi would allow them to use the character without forcing them to use his buddy Bruce.

The whole time was based around Jarrett wanting to come back for the title. Just face it, man: you're never going to convince us that Jarrett isn't a self-serving fuckass in TNA, because trying to do otherwise would be trying to convince us that the sky is tyedye.

"Six-man X-Division tag match" translates into "six jobbers that are told to slow down their wrestling, but then told to only do highspots, together for no real reason" these days. Also, how is there ANY storyline involved in D'Amore defeating a no-name jobber? His build to the match with Dusty? A promo couldn't do that? It's not worth building to anyway, as the match will be shit, and nobody gives a fuck about Dusty Rhodes anymore. And, last I checked, Monte Brown squashing an indy wrestler wasn't exactly a "storyline," more like a "you can see this every week" deal. Impact is the X-Division show my ass.

Yet whose were more "important" to TNA: Jarrett's or Styles'? He was made the focus of the show during both of AJ's title reigns, and completely made Raven look like shit by kicking out of his finisher three times, and kicking out of the Extreme Revolution's interference (which even Hogan would have jobbed to). How does he NOT put himself over everybody? Name me one feud that he has been in where he did not come out looking superior in every way to his opponent.

This match was a dark match. These matches, sure to be terrible, all air. ...fuck you, TNA.

Brown also wrestles each week. Jarrett doesn't.

Wow. Gay.

Not up on current events, are we? Most of us don't buy the PPV anymore. These results are from the Torch, too, so Dirt didn't order. **hits Diamond Cutter on LFV** BANG!

I think Rod actually tried coming here once, too. I'm wondering why Amdub didn't come, because even though he'd disagree with most of us, we'd still have some pretty good convo's.

**blows smoke in Banky's face** Smoking makes you popular and attractive. Join us. We're the cool kids you always wanted to be.

**blows smoke in Banky's face** Smoking makes you popular and attractive. Join us. We're the cool kids you always wanted to be.

I really miss the OLD style, though. Portrait is just a great, great album. Of course, this was back when he didn't have a reputation to uphold, so maybe that's it.

Kim Possible.

As long as my scene happens, it's all good. ...**Diamond Cutters Steviekick**... BANG!

Well, TNS was stopped by Bo because too many people flooded the boards with stupid shit, and everybody was drawn into too many flamewars. Not that big of a loss, though, considering the only people there that knew jackshit about wrestling were myself (Drezzy), Mike, kikrusher, Amdub (even though me and Mike never really agreed with him, we'll both readily admit he knows his shit), and Voltage. So, basically, the only people that really knew anything about wrestling were the "TNA haters," as the idiots of the board (read: 95% of the posters) would say.

That quote right there just shows how biased you are. Monty Brown has more charisma in his pinkey than Batista has in his entire body. As far as the in-ring wrestling, Batista's been doing it for longer than Brown so you can't really compare. Batista hasn't had promo time aside from some short remarks during an Evolution group promo to display his charisma. In the ring, he has the same amount as Monte, only he doesn't resort to the "crouching down like a demented hunter" thing Monte does. Forgot who I was talking to...Mike, who thinks anyone who doesn't churn out a ***** match is dead weight. Guys that were a lot more over in 1999 than 2000. As far as Kane...not only was he depushed but he was, creative-wise, shot in the head by that writing staff. Deny it all you want but it's the truth. Mike never said that. He just said that people that couldn't churn out good matches for the lives of them - Pac in 2000 and most of 2001, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, and Godfather - were depushed for a reason. D'Lo's never had a match above ***1/2 in his career, but he's a solid enough worker with enough charisma to never warrant a depush like the WWF gave him. And Kane was shot in the head creatively the day Glenn donned the mask. My bad..it was so boring and crappy that it felt like six months. In terms of making money and entertaining people, you're right, it was nothing like Austin/McMahon. It was a failed attempt to copy Austin/Rock that flopped completely. Actually, know. It was a feud that had roots before Austin/Rock ever began. HHH's first title in the WWF was the Intercontinental title. Who feuded with him over it? Rocky Maivia. It made complete and utter sense. Sure...they were a lot more creative than "wrestler A bumps into wrestler B backstage and they feud." Especially the period from about Summerslam of 1998 to WM15 which had some of the most creative stuff ever. Rock heel turn, Rock vs. Foley, etc, etc. So much thought being put into the storylines that the shit in 2000 wasn't even close to the same level. Ummmm...most of the feuds during the Attitude era DID start because "wrestler A bumped into wrestler B backstage." Either that, or something ludicrous like, I dunno, a satanic cult tried to rape the boss' daughter. And notice how your "great" feuds from that period all involved Rock and Foley...hmmmm...considering it's pretty much always acknowledged that Foley does a lot of his own booking himself, as far as how feuds take place and whatnot. Missed the ending that never happened. It totally fizzled and had no ending. I'm sure you'll deny it but that's what happened. No, it ended. It just ended poorly. But that doesn't change the fact that it had an ending. HHH and Angle squared off at Unforgiven 2000, I believe. During the match, the referee was knocked cold, and both Angle and Hunter were trying to get back to their feet. Stephanie came in, and Kurt and Hunter made her choose who she'd be with...so she kicked Angle in the balls, and HHH gave him the Pedigree for the 1-2-3. A feud ending in a no contest with nothing resolved...real good. Actually, the feud ended with HHH barely defeating Jericho, thus making it seem as though Jericho was at HHH's level. Both men were broken and beaten down at the end of the match. Can you spell COP-OUT? C-O-P-HYPHEN-O-U-T. And Mike's not disagreeing that the angles weren't as off-the-wall and original in 2000 as they were in 1997, 1998, and 1999. He's just saying that the GREAT WRESTLING we got every week made the angles seem better. Wow, you're a moron. I hate matches with guys I don't know and with no story behind them just being thrown out there. I think its boring and I can't get into it. Then you hate wrestling. Unfortunately, so many feuds do NOT end with an awesome match, so I guess you don't like much. No, considering we have to read it. Yeah, Finkle and it was funny as hell. It was? I don't remember it being entertaining at all, really. Then again, I was spoiled at how great 1998 Jericho was, and was more into ECW at the time to care for the WWF or WCW in 1999 (in fact, I didn't watch WCW in 1999 from May until October, but that's besides the point).

Glad I accepted my boss' offer of working Wednesday nights.

The difference being that even though they were shitty WRESTLERS, they were good WORKERS. Why? Because they knew how to get the fans interested. Hogan is probably one of the best workers ever in the industry, simply because he made millions of people love him by doing punches, a big boot, and a legdrop. And yes, Mike is right. The Hot Rod, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, did more to make wrestling national than Hogan did. Piper set things up, but Vince wanted Hogan to do it, so Vince pushed Hogan. Or do you not remember that it was Piper that starred in Cyndi Lauper's music videos, which was one of the big starts of the Rock N' Wrestling era? ECW...this is where I disagree with Mike. I love ECW, and I have since I first saw it, and I always will. They got their fanbase by creating a product different than either company, and even when the WWF tapped into ECW's style, they still didn't do it like ECW did. Most of ECW's matches were downright terrible, I'll easily admit to that, but there was an energy about the shows that drew people in. Even you, Mike, can admit that ECW had a different aura to it than WCW or the WWF. WCW didn't fold because it was a "wrestling" company. WCW folded because it was run by people that didn't know jackshit about wrestling, buried the people the fans wanted to see (Flair, Benoit, Jericho, and Hart), and had a new President every 6 months that would change the whole course of the company. And the WWF had terrible matches in 1998 and 1999? I guess those ****1/2 encounters between Mick Foley and Steve Austin were imaginary, then. I guess the **** brawl between Foley and Rock at Rumble 99 never happened. And, gee, I guess even the **** ladder match between HHH and Rock at SummerSlam 98 was a figment of my imagination. But here's the thing: WWF's best matches were usually in the main event, or at least the uppercard. WCW's best matches were always in the lowercard. Yeah, I'm really tired right now, and not making a whole lot of sense. But Paul and that other guy are fucking idiots on a TNARICK level from the TotalNonStop boards.

Hey, Mike: Republicans are stupid.

No. But this is the greatest single fucking thread in a long time. Dare I say it surpasses Tomko/Fertig in genius?!