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The x division title match needs more love. If not for the shitty finish it'd be getting MOTYC praise. The 6 man X match was an entertaining one too...

I give up....

I'm doing the same thing. It's slow and painful (and expensive!) but this way I won't be skipping anything and can fully follow of the evolution of the promotion and its storylines. I just finished watching the 2002 shows I've aquired and just recieved the first 4 2003 shows in the mail from this sale and I hope to get started on those soon. Then I'll work from there. See it'd be easier if they ran once a month but they start running 2 or 3 shows a month around this time which will mean its a while to catch up!

I don't even know what that means! I'm not trying to be a tight ass, I just think these threads should be moved to Hardcore or General and continued there. They have nothing to do with TNA and shouldn't be here to distract from other TNA relevant threads. Let's put it this way, if this or the Full House thread were in the WWE folder they wouldn't be there for long.

From what I've seen recently, all the significant TNA talent have been doing indy shows, with AJ Styles even quipping "They pay my bills" when a "Fuck TNA" chant was heard. As well as mocking Double J. Something tells me Low Ki doesn't want to work TNA for other legit reasons. That's different, Styles is under contract and any other shows he works is with TNA's blessing, Lo Ki has not signed because he makes more money in Japan and TNA doesn't want to invest storylines in wrestlers who they can't gaurentee will be there every week. Styles working an indy show on the weekend does not stop him from being at Orlando every Tuesday (or every other now as it is), a several week tour of Japan can mess up those plans...

Refer to my comments in the Full House thread!

If you enjoy TNA and want to see them continue to grow (much less exist) order the show next time, January 16th!

Close this thread or get it out of my folder*. *I know, it's not my folder. It's still crapping the place.

Just imagine Monty holding somebody like Scott Hall's fallaway slam but but instead of falling back with them, hoists them up to his shoulders for fall-forward powerbomb. I have no idea where to find a video of it.

He doesn't post here anymore but I know some people (like myself) enjoy his reviews. Here is Scott Keith's rant. His ratings are nearly identical to mine, I just liked Raven/DDP and the KOW/Team Savage match a little better. The SmarK Rant for TNA Turning Point 2004 - Live from Orlando, FL. - Your hosts are Mike Tenay & Don West. - The opening graphic introduces the heels as the Kings of Wrestling. They should have called themselves the Heroes of Wrestling, which would be much more apropos. - Meanwhile, Vinny McDaddy and his son-in-law arrive to dispute the videotape. Nice grunting HHH impression, although he's not tall enough to pull it off. - NWA World tag titles: 3 Live Kru v. Bobby Roode & Eric Young. Killings subs for Konnan tonight. James starts with Young and loses a slugfest in the corner, but when Young mocks his stale act, he gets all fired up. Perish the thought. Killings comes in with a version of the Wazzup legdrop, so Young tags out to Roode. He grabs a headlock on Killings, who comes back with a hiptoss. Flipping leads to a leg lariat for two. The 3LK does some goofy double-teaming to set up the shaky kneedrop from James, which gets two. Back to Killings, who goes up and gets crotched for his troubles. Team Canada works him over in the corner and Young gets a backbreaker for two. H-Bomb into a backbreaker gets two for Roode. He throws some knees on the ropes and a backdrop suplex gets two. Young stomps him in the corner, but Killings hits him with a missile dropkick out of nowhere. Roode cuts off the hot tag, however, stepping on Killings to get to James, but Young's double-team attempt fails and it's hot tag James. Kicks and punches abound and he slugs Young down, then catches Roode coming off the top for two. Young does a Flair Flip and gets axe kicked by Killings while on the top rope, thus getting rid of him. Roode hits James with the OPENING MATCH SPINEBUSTER, and that gets two. Killings and James take over with a Hart Attack on Roode, but D'Amore gets involved to distract the ref. James goes for the pumphandle, but my boy Johnny Devine returns from being stabbed to hit James with a hockey stick and gives Team Canada the titles back at 8:31. Now there's an inspirational story. ** - Meanwhile, Dusty Rhodes babbles incoherently while Shane Douglas makes funny faces. Is he supposed to be the demented interviewer or something? - Kid Kash, Kazarian & Michael Shane v. Sonny Siaki, Sonjay Dutt & Hector Garza. Dutt and Kash slug it out to start and hit the mat for a stalemate sequence. Dutt hits him with an enzuigiri to break it, however, then slugs away. Kash tries a rollup, but then gets a springboard version, which Dutt counters with a dropkick. Garza comes in and gets caught in the heel corner, but overpowers Shane before walking into a punch. They badly fuck up a monkey-flip in the corner, and at least don't repeat it. Garza comes back and tosses Shane, however, and Siaki comes in to pound on Kazarian. Siaki sticks out like a sore thumb here. Dutt makes a blind tag and gets alley-ooped by Siaki into a top rope rana on Kazarian, which is a super cool move. Kazarian catches him with a single-arm DDT, however, and Shane comes in to work the arm. We get some non-tag chicanery and Kash comes in. Dutt comes back with a crossbody for two, but Kash clotheslines him in the corner and pounds him down. Back to the arm, but Siaki breaks it up. And that allows Shane to switch off again and stay on the arm. Shane uses a jumping armbar to lay him up again, and then Kazarian & Shane hit him with a double-team legdrop before going back to the arm. More abuse behind the ref's back, as Shane & Kash hold Dutt's arms in the corner and Kazarian dropkicks him in the face. Kash comes back in with a shoulderbreaker and then a hammerlock slam into the corner for two. More switching, as Shane prevents a tag and continues pounding the arm. Dutt makes the one-handed comeback, but Shane again rips the arm out. Back to Kazarian, who holds a wristlock on him and then takes him down to the mat with that. Dutt fights back with the springboard rana, and it's finally hot tag to Garza. Surprising lack of heat for that tag. Garza moonsaults Kazarian for two. The heels dump him, but Siaki dumps them and then alley-oops Dutt over the top onto them. Tracy comes in with the buttdrop on Shane by accident, and Garza finishes him with the corkscrew moonsault at 11:00. Good, solid, old-fashioned sympathy heat on Dutt here carries things instead of the usual trainwreck spots. *** - Speaking of babbling incoherently, Randy Savage cuts a promo backstage. - Serengeti Survival match: Abyss v. "Alpha Male" Monty Brown. Did anyone else get mixed up and think of this as an Alpha Ghetti survival match? Both guys eat a tainted can of pasta and first one not to vomit wins. Anyway, Brown attacks on the floor and sends Abyss into the post and railing, but Abyss whips him into the post. Abyss works on the ribs, taped ala DDP tonight, and grabs a table. He also gets the thumbtacks, but Brown cuts him off with an attack from behind and clotheslines him out of the corner. Abyss catches him with a big boot for two, however. Next toy: A chair, as he pounds Brown down and then gives him a Quake splash on the chair. That gets two. He tries the CLUBBING FOREARMS and chokes Brown out on the ropes. Back to the chair, but this time Brown puts the chair vertical to block the sitdown splash, and I'm sure you can use your imagination there. Brown comes back with a chairshot, as if landing on his balls wasn't bad enough for poor Abyss, and a powerslam on the chair follows. Brown goes for the Pounce, but walks into the Black Hole Slam, which gets two. So Abyss wedges the chair into the corner, but that of course backfires, and it's Pounce time. Abyss falls out of the ring on the bump, however. The crown, however, is hip to the game, and they want the thumbtacks. Brown only gets two back in the ring. Another Pounce misses, and Brown puts himself through the table. That gets two for Abyss. And now he gets the tacks back, but Brown has his own. It's DUELING THUMBTACKS. Abyss decides not to use his, however, and tries a chokeslam onto Brown's, but Brown rips off the shirt and tries a powerbomb. That's a no-go, as Abyss fights out and tries his own. Brown reveres to a whiplash slam onto the tacks, thus winning the match at 12:16. Well, that's certainly the silliest method of winning a match I've seen in a while, but the match had some good drama, believe it or not. **1/2 - Meanwhile, Vinny McDaddy and his son-in-law smash a random videotape with a sledgehammer, but it's only the Best of D-Ray 3000. - Glen Gilberti & Johnny Swinger v. Empire Saint & Johnny B Badd. Swinger starts with Badd and falls victim to a headscissors, and Badd works on Gilberti's arm. Kenney comes in with a northern lights suplex for two. Gilberti dumps him and Swinger rams Kenney's back into the post. OH MY GOD, THEY…oh, forget it. Back in, Swinger works on the back and stomps away on it. Swinger gets a clothesline for two. The NYC whip each other into Kenney's back, but heel miscommunication gives Kenney a rollup on Gilberti for two. Gilberti beats him down again and Swinger drops an elbow on the back for two. Kenney makes the hot tag to Badd, however, and he throws some kneelifts. The dreaded double noggin knocker puts Swinger in the corner, and Badd comes off the middle rope with a sledge, and it's BONZO GONZO. Gilberti with the stunner on Kenney, but Jacqueline slams him and Badd finishes with the TKO at 6:41. Dull and heatless. 1/2* - Raven v. DDP. Was the world really waiting for DDP to come out of retirement? Page slugs Raven down to start and they exchange boots before DDP gets a clothesline and stomps away in the corner. The ref is bumped early and they brawl outside for the usual walk-back-and-forth fighting into the crowd. Back into the ring, DDP walks into a boot in the corner, but posts Raven. Raven blocks the Diamond Cutter and gets two. Raven grabs what appears to be a Viking helmet and clobbers Page with it to take over. That gets two. DDP comes back with a rollup for two. Raven chokes him down on the ropes and grabs a chair, then gives him a running knee into the corner. The DROP TOEHOLD OF DOOM gets two. DDP fights back and slugs away in the corner, and gets some clotheslines. Big boot and he tries the Cutter, but Raven goes low to counter. Rollup gets two. DDP gets his own rollup for two. Raven bulldogs him for two. DDP gets a belly-to-belly for two. Raven gets a superkick for two. I love how they just trade moves without any selling or storyline to the match. That's just super. Diamond Cutter gets two. A couple of guys in hoods come down to ringside, as Raven DDTs DDP for two. And now Erik Watts runs into the ring after putting over DDP the whole match on commentary, gets rid of Raven's guys, and then SHOCKINGLY turns on DDP. My gosh, my world is crumbling all around me. How can I live? Page gets the Cutter on Watts, however, and Raven goes back on offense. Even Flow is reversed to the Diamond Cutter for the pin at 12:01. Page's total offense these days seems to be clotheslines, rollups and the Diamond Cutter. * - Meanwhile, Vinny McDaddy and his son-in-law stew backstage on hidden camera, and turn down a tray of cookies from Tracy. - X title: Petey Williams v. Chris Sabin. Sabin grabs the arm to start and they work off that as the crowd goes to dueling chants. Sabin tries the Cradle Shock and Williams bails to escape that. Back in, Sabin grabs a headlock and sweeps him down for two, then kicks him in the head off a snapmare by Williams. They slug it out and Sabin springboards in from the apron with a dropkick, and Williams bails again. Williams tries to springboard in, but Sabin catches him with the Cradle Shock, so Williams counters that and takes Sabin to the floor. He follows with a rana from the apron. Sabin fights back with chops and powerbombs him into the railing. That's pretty sick. Sabin then heads into the crowd, climbs onto the pit railing, and dives over the front row onto Williams at ringside. That's pretty sick too. Back to the ring, Williams catches Sabin with a melodramatic necksnap and Scott D'Amore adds some cheapshots. Back in, Williams gets two. He hangs Sabin in the Tree of Woe, and steps on his nuts. Well, Tommy Dreamer can rest easy knowing he added something to the sport. That gets two for Williams. Williams gets a neckbreaker into a tornado DDT for two. Williams gets a seated dropkick and hits the chinlock. Sabin reverses to a rollup for two, but Williams dropkicks him down again for two. Williams clotheslines him down, into a suplex, into a backdrop suplex, and that gets two. Williams gets a legdrop for two. Choking in the corner. The continued chanting from the crowd in perfect time, from the same section, seems to indicate that the heat is less spontaneous than I thought. Williams goes up, but Sabin comes back with a pop-up superplex and they slug it out, allowing Sabin to get the enzuigiri. Running powerbomb gets two. Sabin goes up and gets crotched, but ducks a charging Williams and pulls himself up and dives onto Williams outside. That was definitely unique. Sabin slugs him down, but Williams pops up and takes him down with a Russian legsweep. Sabin tries the Cradle Shock, but Williams rolls him over into the Sharpshooter. He does it even worse than Rock, but it's the thought that counts. Sabin makes the ropes. Williams charges and ends up on the apron, and Sabin brings him in with a superplex attempt, but Williams counters with a powerbomb attempt. Williams tries the Destroyer, but Sabin rolls right through it, into a piledriver for two. Holy cow. They counter each other and Sabin goes for the finish, but D'Amore breaks up the Cradle Shock and Williams hits Sabin with brass knuckles for the pin at 18:09. What a shitty finish. Great match, though, slow spots aside. ***3/4 - Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash & Scott Hall v. AJ Styles, Jeff Hardy & Randy Savage. Savage is sadly absent to start, leaving me to wonder if the nuthouse finally realized he was gone and brought him back home. I mean, seriously, you have to be a special kind of crazy to make people forget about how weird Ultimate Warrior is. Hall and Nash are dressed as Elvises, thus showing what kind of dignity they have left. Styles starts with Jarrett and they work off a headlock, but Styles gets a flying headscissors. Jarrett goes back to the headlock, but Styles dropkicks out of it. Grandpa Hall comes in and works AJ's arm over, but gets kicked down as a result. And now AJ wants Nash, almost as badly as Nash wants his hair and dark roots back. Big Kev comes in and pounds AJ down, but gets dropkicked down, as do the rest of the Heroes of Wrestling, and Hardy comes in with a missile dropkick. Legdrop for Nash, but a cheapshot from Hall turns the tide, and Jeff is YOUR freak-in-peril. Jarrett chokes him down and struts, and Hall chokeslams him for two. Nash gets the sideslam for two. Hall does the abdominal stretch, but Hardy fights out and makes the hot tag to Styles. Dropkicks abound, but Nash trips up Styles during a springboard attempt and it's face-in-peril segment #2. Hall gets the blockbuster slam for two. Nash works him over in the corner with the usual and gets two. Jarrett comes back in and goes for the figure-four, but AJ reverses for two. Rollup gets two for AJ. Nash goes to the bearhug, but my copy cuts to AJ & Jarrett in a double KO. Hot tag Hardy, who gets a corkscrew out of the corner and a DDT for Hall. Jarrett goes for the Stroke, but Hardy reverses to the Twist of Fate…and Nash gets rid of the referee. Hall goes for the guitar and lays out Hardy, and everyone is out. However, now Randy Savage returns from wherever he was (likely his chemo treatments judging by the hair and body) and he tags himself in and goes crazy. Well, crazier. It's TRIPLE SLEEPERS. My god, it's the 1970s and no one told me! Savage pins Jarrett out of this at 15:21. Thank god this wasn't the main event. *1/2 Savage would be gone from the promotion the next day. - Meanwhile, Vinny McDaddy gets hauled off in the ambulance. - And we finally get the disputed tape, as Shane Douglas, Tracy and Abyss arrive to welcome the WWE to Universal Studios. Everyone is blurred out, thus rendering the whole thing pretty pointless. It also makes the WWE look even more hypocritical given their own actions in the past. - Cage match: America's Most Wanted v. XXX. Loser has to break up. Daniels starts with Storm and they exchange shots into the cage to start. Next up, Primetime and Harris, as Primetime gets a kick to the head before falling victim to a full-nelson slam. AMW double-teams him with a backdrop and then tees off on Daniels, and spike him into the cage. Daniels starts bleeding as AMW works him over, but Harris's suplex is blocked by Skipper. XXX gets a double slam and Skipper slams Daniels on Harris. Daniels pounds him down, bleeding all the while. He clotheslines Harris down and XXX does some more double-teaming, and Skipper gets a mule kick in the corner and then kicks the knee out. Harris comes back with a catapult into the cage and brings Storm in, and he powerslams Daniels and kicks Skipper down. They set up for the Death Sentence, but Daniels breaks it up. Primetime hotshots Harris into the cage, and now we have double juice. Harris gets handcuffed to the corner, which pretty much leaves Storm alone and in trouble. They pound Storm down, and then use the handcuff key to inflict damage on Storm. Oh, that's not nice. Storm goes into the cage and now it's triple juice, as Harris yells "Give me the key!" at Daniels. Surprisingly, that doesn't work. Maybe he should say please. Daniels goes up to add an elbow to Primetime's body vice, and that gets two on Storm. Daniels goes back up, but hits Primetime by mistake, and Storm spears the key out of his hands. Harris gets the key and gets loose, and now he's PISSED. Spinebusters result, and Storm goes nuts on Primetime, and then Harris rams Daniels into the cage a bunch of times. Then he suplexes him INTO the cage. That's awesome. It gets two. PT comes back with a suplex on Harris and goes up for the Rockerplex with Daniels, and that gets two. Storm comes back with a neckbreaker on Skipper, and XXX meets the cage. Hart Attack from AMW gets two on Skipper. Harris keeps abusing Daniels via the cage, but it backfires and XXX send him into the cage. XXX sets up Harris for a Death Sentence and hit it for two. I hope they don't let that kind of disrespect go without answering it. Daniels sends Skipper to the top of the cage, but Harris POWERBOMBS HIM OFF. Holy SHIT. That only gets two. Daniels gets the Angel's Wings for two. And now Daniels climbs, but Storm follows him up, and then Skipper follows THEM up. Skipper then WALKS THE CAGE and gets the rana from the top of the cage. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. And now Daniels goes to the top of the cage and follows with an elbow from the top. But shit, how do you follow Skipper? Everyone fights in the corner and they do the stacked superplex from the top of the cage, nearly killing Daniels in the process. Oh man, this PPV deserves 50,000 buys just for this crazy shit. Skipper tries the play of the day on Harris, but it's reversed to the Catatonic, so Skipper blocks and sends him into the cage. Storm slugs it out with Daniels in the corner and they fight on the top, which sends Storm to the mat again. Harris headbutts Daniels low, however, and knocks him down. And then irony rears her ugly face, as Daniels gets handcuffed, leaving Skipper all by his lonesome. Superkick and XXX's own powerbomb/suplex finisher end things at 21:02, thus splitting up XXX. This was fucking awesome, although having to follow the cagewalk rana was tough. ****1/2 The Final Word: Much, MUCH better than last month's TNA offering, as they delivered bigtime with a minimum of crap this time around and probably the second-best main event on PPV this year. Financially speaking the company is circling the drain, but at least the guys haven't given up yet. Thumbs way up. Pulse Rating: 9

I don't know why I double posted but I did.

They offer a slew of matches from the vault avaliable to watch for a week along with the webcast.

Lopez: He doesn't want to pitch out of the bullpen and for 2 out of 3 years has been our best starting pitcher. That's where he thrives. After we took him out the rotation and put him in the pen a 2nd time he was terrible because he didn't want to be there. Lopez has earned his rotation spot. Ryan: I agree, I would HATE to trade him but Tim Hudson is one of the few players that might do it for me. I've heard the Orioles have recently been very interested in signing Steve Kline which might be an indication that they are preparing for the trade. Cabrera: Collapsed in the second half. I peg him more than Lopez as a possible middle relief candidate. He needs to earn his spot just like Riley, Ainsworth and Dubose once again this year. Delgado: There's nothing to worry about. His injury last year was one of the few in his career, he has been one of the most consistent power hitters in baseball for almost a decade. He puts up monster numbers at Camden Yards. Ordonez: I agree I'm iffy on him, and would only sign him for a short, incentive laden deal. I'm hoping if we're basically the only serious bidders we can get him to agree to something like a one year deal, guarenteed 5 million that kicks up to 12 if he's healthy and produces with 2 or 3 option years at the same rate. If he's healthy he could be an RBI machine with our lineup. If someone wants to throw an I-rod like contract at him though, then let them.

Thanks bravesfan, do post more! O's wishlist: Hudson Pavano Delgado Ordonez Yeahhhhh baby. No idea why Steve Finley or Richard Hidalgo are listed, eeew. The potential trade for Hudson is VERY interesting. I don't mind giving up Bedard, even though he looks like he could be break out star some day because the O's seem to have "top" pitching prospects every year that never seem to pan out and if it gets us a bonafide top 5 in the majors ace like Hudson it's well worth it. I too am concerned about trading BJ Ryan though, who proved himself to be possibly the best left handed releiever in the majors last year and is real asset to have in the late innings (possibly as closer). I would seriously try to push Jorge Julio on them instead, but if it takes Ryan to get Hudson at the end of the day I'd do it. Delgado sounds all but signed, and he'll stand for God Bless America. We're pretty much the only ones interested seriously in Magglio at this point which hopefully bodes well for contract negotiations. Im hoping we can seal a incentive laden deal that takes into account injuries and performance. I agree signing Pavano is a longshot with the Sawks and Yankees down his neck but he visited Baltimore this past week and apparently was very impressed with the city and stadium, had private meetings and meals with Os management and we have an in becahse his agent Scott Shapiro is a life long Orioles fan and good friend of Peter Angelos and he's apparently pushing Pavano to really give Balimore a chance. Potential lineup (could be jinxing but I dont care): 2B Roberts 3B Mora SS Tejada 1B Delgado RF Ordonez C Lopez DH Palmeiro CF Bigbie LF Newhan/Gibbons/Hairston SP Hudson SP Pavano SP Ponson SP Lopez SP Riley/Cabrera MMMMMMM....wildcard.....

I'm not sure I understand your argument though, Cerebus. Are you saying Jews should intermarry with Arabs? From my understanding after centuries of being persecuted as a people, resulting in the the diminishing of their numbers do to killing, forced conversion or just abandoment to intermarriage, Jews take their culture very seriously and are reluctant to further dilute it through intermarriage for fear of leading to the extinction of their culture. This would be what the Arabs would want anyway, as if the Jewish majority in Israel is overtaken by Arabs (or half Arabs), then Israel as a representative democracy would cease to be a Jewish state. But possibly I misunderstood you, and may have some of my facts wrong, but this is what I understand to be true from studying the subject.

I worship Pan, the Goat God.

This is just so stupid. Anyone who's truly offended by use of the word "Christmas" to describe a national holiday and cultural event celebrated by 80% of the population needs a hammer to the head or something. Be more inclusive if you want and include greetings for other holidays if somoene feels left out but mostly this is the case of some atheists being assholes and trying to ruin the holidays for everyone else....Sheesh....Oh and Merry Christmas everyone.

Yet another in the streak of must see Pride and UFC cards. This card looks STACKED. I'll be watching!

I got 'em before because I'm in a dorm room and can't order PPV. But now that they're $35 it's a ripoff. Same here! Now when I'm at home I dont even order them on TV, I just hit the local Hooters with a couple friends and watch it for free (not counting food and drink). I spend enough money on TNA and MMA PPVs now anyway!

Just check this site periodically to keep up with upcoming live events: http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/

Primetime comments on THE MOVE~!: On Wednesday night, three days after pulling off one of the most daredevil moves in wrestling history at Turning Point, “Primetime” Elix Skipper appeared on the “Between The Ropes” wrestling radio show to discuss the Six Sides of Steel Match. Below is what Primetime had to say about the brutal and bloody bout, “the move” and the reaction after the match: ON PREPARING FOR THE MATCH THAT NIGHT - “It was a great feeling and an honor…knowing that they (TNA officials) trusted us enough to put us as the last match…we’d done it before and were going to do it again. Everyone kept asking if we could top the first cage match. That wasn’t our intention. Our intention was to go out there and have a great match, but I think we ended up topping the first one.” ON WHAT HE WAS THINKING DURING “THE MOVE” - “I’m climbing up top…I’m sweating, I’ve got blood all over me – I wasn’t sure how high up I was, and I didn’t want to know. All I was concerned with was getting up in that corner and how I was going to walk across…the landing was the last thing I was worried about. As I was coming down, I knew I had to spin really quickly to land right. After I hit I did the full body check to make sure my fingers, legs and hands were still working…I was breathing and I was alright.” “Before I did the move, I got mad at first because I tried to stand up and fell a little – and all I could think to myself was “Man, I hope I can do this”. Then all of a sudden I just popped up and took off because I was getting mad thinking about it. I just did it” ON AFTER THE MATCH - “Before I made it to the back – the fans are screaming “Thank You” and were so appreciative of what we did. Then as we’re going up the ramp, we turn around and see half the locker room out there congratulating us. A lot of people in the back thought I was crazy to try that, but to me the move was years in the making. I always wanted to walk the top of the cage and didn’t get that chance in our first cage match against AMW. But it was my chance to do something that nobody had ever done or will ever do again”

We have one dissenter! Explain yourself. No, seriously, don't be shy, we would enjoy your feedback about what you did not enjoy and what would make the next TNA PPV more enjoyable for you. Otherwise I'm very pleased to see that even amongst those that did not order, interest is very high. I will be inclined to conduct more of these unscientific polls in the future!

He's marking his territorry (at least he doesn't do it like most animals do! ) Also to the poster that suggested Monty needs a 2nd finisher to go along with the Pounce he does, he has The Alpha Bomb. Pounce is just more sudden and explosive when it happens. I'm not getting this whole argument that it is not a realistic move, either. Thinking in the context of "real life" what do you think would be more damaging, someone holding you by your legs and dropping you lightly on your stomach, or wrapping their legs around your head and flipping you on your back or a 260 pound former NFL defensive linebacker charging at you and ramming into your side at full force, no pads?

This is terrible news. Pantera was one of my favorites for their time, and Darrell was an influencial force in metal guitar riffs. What posseses someone to do something like this I will never ever understand. One report I read from the club owner said the shooter left the club and then re-entered with the gun, holding up the door man and then rushing the stage. I can't imagine the horror of those in attendance watching one of their heroes literally have their brains blown out. God speed to the families, especially of the innocent victims that got hurt in this nonsense, and hopefully this ugly incident at least leads to concert security being beefed up in the future.

Same here. At 17.95 they were a bargain, and I didn't mind ordering even the lackluster looking cards, now that they've doubled the price, no way. I've ordered only one since the price hike and that was Unforgiven (and I really have no idea what possesed me to do that. I think a combination of boredom/nothing to do that night and an interest in HHH/Orton).