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Jacquline then? We're getting way ahead of ourselves here. We shouldn't be pushing so far ahead when some of these storylines haven't been set yet. Besides, Jacqueline will be the black militant girl that tries to get Trish to stop talking to Molly and all the other non-African American women in WWE. She'll constantly mention Malcolm X and preach to Trish about fighting Whitey and "that caviar shit they always seem to be eatin"

She could be the dorky white woman that tries to hang out with Trish and Molly sometimes. She brings them baked goods whenever she meets them and, trying to keep up with the interesting stories of Trish and Molly, tells stories of little Jimmy scoring the winning goal and little Mary winning her 5th-Grade Spelling Bee. Then, when her back is turned, they make fun of the way she dresses and insult her peach cobbler. This will show that the seemingly-perfect ethnic relationship between Trish and Molly has its downside as well.

Personally, I think we need Stacy to play the stereo-typical blond high school girl too. She can start the rumors that lead to all the diva fights! Gold~! Damnit chick! The whole idea is to make her something completely different from her current character. Oh, okay. Stacy as the intelligence, feminist that doesn't stand for women being disgraced as eye-candy? She's woman, hear her roar! Stacy can be the evil white woman that stands in the way of the racial equality that Trish and Molly dream of. *Stacy is watching television footage of Trish and Molly sitting in the locker room together* Trish - Girl, one day I hope the blacks and the whites can all get along and be happy. Then maybe Marvin can be one of those CEO dealies. He brings enough money home, suga, there'll be enough gumbo and corn bread to feed my entire church. Oh lord, how they sing! HOW THEY SING!! ALLEUIA!!! Lord, I hope equality comes soon. Molly - Chica, I like the way you think. Equality and shit would be good for everyone, homes. *Stacy turns off the TV* Stacy - Girls, over my dead body. Over my......dead.......body. *twirls hair angrily*

Have you NOT read the thread?! Molly is the stereotypical Hispanic!

Well, obviously, the Trish/Molly partnership would face its rocky times. One of those times would be when we see them backstage. *Molly is sitting on a couch, painting her nails in somewhat of a cherry-red color. She notices one of her strands of hair slowly begin to fall in front of her eyes. She grabs a bottle of hairspray near her and attacks the strand, spraying it with nearly half the bottle. Finally, it falls in place on the mound of hair above Molly's hair. After a few seconds, Trish walks into the room in a brightly-colored, flowered mumu. She slowly walks over to the couch and flops herself on top of it. Trish - Oh lord, my corns.....suga, my feet are just aching. Molly - Oh girl, do you know what you need for that? Trish - No baby, what? Molly - Well, doll, the new "Monday Night Wars" DVD will just bring you back to life. It's full of all this shit and stuff about McMahon and that Bischoff chico and you know....all this other stuff....it's really hot. Girl, I am telling you..... Trish - Oh baby, let me bring it home? Marvin's just gonna love it! I mean, it will take him away from all dat trash he watches on the movie box. He always has that B.E.T. on. You know, with all them peoples talking about their bling-bling and their bitches....girl, they just a bunch of hootchies to me. And I know he be picking up some stuff from there. The other day, I see him walking around with a boa and cane. I said Marvin, "Where you think you going?". And he said, "I'm going out to see my ho." And I said, "Oh boy, you best not. You gon' get my size-9 up your behind if you step out this house." But then he opened the door, and.... Molly - So, girl, what you up to tonight? Trish - Oh, Lord, I don't know. Bischoff wants to see me in his office. Girl, he is a good lookin whitey, you know that? Molly - Mama, you just said you hated him. Girl, he keep kickin your ass to the curb every week by putting you in all these matches and shit. Don't be takin that stuff from him. Trish - But girl, he know how to satisfy a simple, black woman like me. And lord, sometimes, I close my eyes and pretend he's Denzel. OOOOOOHHHHHH LORD, how I love that man! Denzel is just my honey. I want to smother him up with kisses and bring him home and put him on my mantel. Molly - Denzel? Girl, what kind of crazy shit you be talkin about? You ever get a look at Enrique Iglesias? That vato can get a look at my stuff anyday. Trish - Enrique? Suga, he's okay for an appetizer. But Denzel is the main dish. His BUTT lookin all sweet and.... Molly - Chica, he don't got the flava of Enrique. Trish - Girl, I KNOW you ain't be trashin Denzel. Molly - I'm sayin Denzel as ugly as Cedric when he all dolled up in grey hair and shit for that movie about the barber shop. Trish - Bitch, you ass is mine. *A brawl breaks out where both women are clawing at each other's hair, shoving each other into walls, fighting on the floor.....until Trish pulls off her shoe and starts hitting Molly with it. Molly breaks out in laughter and Trish soon follows* Molly - Sista, you know I can't stay mad at you. You my girl. It's gonna be me and you to the end. Trish - Come on, baby. Let's get out of this room. It's hotter than hell in here. Boy, my corns is just achin today.

Rudo, as hilariously racist as that was, you just don't have the WWE mentality. They CONTINUE their storylines and evolve them into something beautiful. So the next week.... *Trish is walking around backstage with her hips shaking and her heels clacking. She enters the Girls Locker room and finds Molly Holly standing near a locker* Molly - Yo chica, what's goin on? *Molly has her hair wig-wammed into an impressive tapestry of curly, jet-black strands. She uses her long nails to massage her hair, making sure it holds its impressive height. She's clad in large hoop earrings, a belly shirt that lets a small amount of flab hang out, and tight sweatpants with the word "JUICY" embroidered on the back. As she talks to Trish, there is a constant, heavy chewing of a piece of gum in her mouth* Molly - Yo Trish, girl, how's it going, esse? Trish - Oh lordy, I don't know. My ankles just ain't workin today. It took me a couple tries to roll out of bed. But I did it with the Lord's help, God bless him! Molly - Oh girl, that is funny. You is TOO funny. So what you be doing tonight, chica? Trish - Girl, I just have no idea. Eric wants me to go walk my black ass to the ring to go against Victoria but girl, I just don't think I have the strength in me. Molly- Girl, you SO do not need to take that shit from him. *snaps fingers* Trish - Lord, you're right Molly - What an asshole. Girl, you need to kick that booty to the curb. You need to stand up to that cubano and tell him you done taking all his shit! Trish - Oh my baby, you're right. You're right. Lord, is it hot in here or is it just me? Molly - Sista, it be hotter than Hell in here. Trish - Oh, good. Sometimes, I don't know. I just gets these hot flashes and it's all crazy. Girl, I feel like a Con-Ed factory sometimes. Molly - Ha ha!! Girl, you crazy! You are crazy! So, are you going to talk to this chico or what? Trish - Yeah, Molly, I think I'm gonna give that boy a piece of my mind. Thanks for your help. Molly - Oh girl, that's okay. We feel each other now. You inspired me, you know that? I recognize and embrace my Hispanic heritage thanks to you, sista. Trish - Oh suga, we gonna be the best of friends. ......and now we can have a cultural partnership of Trish/Molly. It would certainly attract the stereotypical Hispanic/50-year-old Black Woman viewers.

Why yes, because nobody in the world has ever dealt with a divorce or losing their job before. Those are NOT reasons to kill yourself and hurt everyone around you. Was he crippled with cancer? Was he a paraplegic that needed a respirator to breathe? Was every step he took wrecked with pain? I don't think so. He had a divorce. He lost his job (and got a new one rather quickly) And he killed himself. Sorry, it's not a valid excuse. This stress is something that can be worked through for your loved ones. I'm not trying to step all over Lockwood's life here. Far from it. But I certainly don't think he should be referred to as a "poor guy". Steven Richards is a poor guy for having a best friend kill himself in Steven's home. Lockwood's daughter is a poor girl because now she lives without a father. Michael had full power over how to continue his life, and he chose to end it. I just don't feel too bad for him because he knew perfectly well what he was doing, yet continued until he died. I feel much worse for the people around him.

Hold on....let me find something I wrote earlier in this thread.....ah, here it is: I have been through tough times in my life, but I've pulled through it for the people around me. That's the way it should be. Okay. *fucks off* Previous quote I had.....ah yes, I found it: I didn't disrespect Lockwood as a person or as a professional wrestler. Hell, I didn't even call him a coward. I separated Michael Lockwood: The Person from Michael Lockwood: The Death. I disrespected the way he died because, in my opinion, it was a terribly selfish decision. But I know nothing about how he was as an individual, so I made sure not to bash his character. AGAIN?! But I just finished!! Oh, allright, fine. *fucks off* .....Listen, I understand that reading the comments of others is a tough concept to grasp, but please try it. You said I have no idea how it is to be depressed, but I HAVE been depressed before. Yet, I worked through it for the well-being of my family and my friends. I wouldn't commit suicide just because I can't stand the idea of putting them through all that grief. Lockwood should have pulled through for his daughter, for his family, for his friends.....he ended the tough stretch HE had going in his life just so he could bring OTHERS into a tough stretch of their lives. That's not fair and if I have to be one of the only ones here to point that out (as well as Mike), so be it.

Just as I told snuffbox, I didn't disrespect Lockwood as a person or as a professional wrestler. Hell, I didn't even call him a coward. I separated Michael Lockwood: The Person from Michael Lockwood: The Death. I disrespected the way he died because, in my opinion, it was a terribly selfish decision. But I know nothing about how he was as an individual, so I made sure not to bash his character. But go ahead.....make conclusions anyway about me "disrespecting the dead."

Admittedly, I have not and I'm thankful for that. Committing suicide because you can't deal with the physically wracking pain in your life is acceptable. If it brings you out of the terrible pain and misery, then I guess it's okay. But over losing a job? Getting a divorce? These are good reasons for killing yourselves and ruining the lives of your family? Of your friends? Those are things you work through. They are NOT things to kill yourself over. I said it before and I'll say it again - his suicide was a selfish decision. The people that were close to him now have to deal with a void in their life. But Lockwood doesn't. He hurt the people around him by finding an easy way out of his life. And I don't think that's fair to them. I feel a lot worse for Steven Richards, at whose house he was "honored" to have Michael kill himself at, Lockwood's family that had to deal with the funeral arrangements and the fact that someone close is no longer in their lives because HE chose to take his life away, and Lockwood's friends. I didn't shittalk him so don't push that bullshit on me. I didn't insult him on the basis of his entire life, I didn't insult his wrestling career....I insulted the way he died because it was selfish. I have been through tough times in my life, but I've pulled through it for the people around me. That's the way it should be.

what a poor guy Poor guy? I don't feel bad for people that commit suicide. Yes, he was having a rough stretch in life at that point, but tough people work through that. They don't give up by overdosing on painkillers.... ...and killing themselves in their best friend's home. Suicide is rarely an acceptable solution. Maybe if you're on the verge of dying, and you're in incredible pain, it might be okay to just end your misery. But besides that, it's just a pathetic way out. I feel bad for Steven Richards, I feel bad for Lockwood's family, I feel bad for everyone that has been affected by Lockwood's decision. I don't feel bad for Lockwood. His suicide was a selfish decision.

Personally, I would also vote for Steve Urkel: Raw GM to make it into the Classics folder as well. It doesn't get as much love as Tomko & Fertig, but it was still one of the best threads in the WWE folder in the past year. Steve Urkel: Raw GM It pretty much starts on the second page.

But then you're ruining the Dead Man Undertaker's gimmick, which is supposed to be one of the biggest returns in WWE history. Plus it just completely ruins continuity. Kane is scared shitless at the idea of his brother returning from the dead......but Angle realizes it's just one big, fake gimmick? If they were to have a storyline, the best one would be to make Kurt have somewhat of a kamikaze mentality. He's scared of the Undertaker but he doesn't want to back down. So he rallies against his fears, sometimes putting his own well-being on the line, just to get some damage on Taker. Picking his spots wisely when he attacks him in the ring or backstage....brawling with Taker, first absorbing some damage before fighting back with a steel chair or another weapon.....sacrificing his body by jumping off the top rope onto the Dead Man (possibly in a tag match or even a promo in the ring), thereby taking them both out.....etc. Taker will look strong, but Angle will look smart - and look like he has a huge set of balls for taking on someone that even he's afraid of.

But then it would be Dead-Man Undertaker he'd be feuding with instead of Biker Taker. Imagine the cutting-edge promos: We could see Angle catch a glimpse of the Dead Man and soil himself. He'd run away into the locker room as Cole giddily laughs at the wet spot on the back of Angle's tights. High-larious!

Well, I just recently heard a radio ad that said "You don't want to miss the last 15 minutes of Survivor: All Stars tonight." So this could probably mean a surprise booting or, maybe, a shifting of the teams. My prediction to go tonight: Chapera: Susan Saboga: Ethan Mogo Mogo: Richard. Final prediction: Susan.

From the New York Daily News: So Jackie's gone (who made the show interesting), John's gone (who at least was good for a laugh with his celebrity interviews or being constantly berated on the air).......at least we still have Artie to continue to kiss all their asses. While I was never the biggest Stuttering John fan, he HAS been one of the more entertaining aspects of the show the past few years.

Well, it seems to me that they have more of a claim into the classics folder than that Molly/Ivory one. Hell, a good number of topics IN the classic folder just aren't that good already. Personally, I find the Tomko/Fertig and Urkel threads to be funnier than some of the other topics in the folder. However, I suppose I can understand the people that don't find the two mentioned topics as humorous as I do. But that's not really the discussion here. The point is..... What in the hell is that Molly/Ivory topic doing in the Classics folder?

So wait.... Both Tomko & Fertig AND Steve Urkel: Raw GM don't make it into the classic thread but that meaningless topic does? Loss is crusading against threads turning off-topic in the WWE Folder, then puts an off-topic WWE post - with only a few replies - into the classics folder? Talk about a mixed signal. I understand that it's probably a joke but.....it's not even funny.

To be fair, Angle was already champ when 9-11 happened. Fortuitous planning, as it turned out. Nope. Angle won the title at Unforgiven, which was September 23rd, 2001. They weren't going to originally put the title on him there but did it just to console, in some way, the American WWE fans. The original plan for Unforgiven was revealed a few weeks later when Regal turned on Angle, allowing Austin to win the title on that Raw in October.

Consider it changed. I suck at remembering years. Another one: The Undertaker vs. Yokozuna. Considering Yokozuna KILLED Undertaker at Royal Rumble 1994 - and we watched Taker ascend into Heaven - you would think they'd fight on the biggest show of the year. Not so.

Thats even weirder. Two Main Eventers for the past 5 years (in UT's case, too lnog to count) have rarely feuded. They've had their fair share of matches with each other. Unforgiven 2000 That was more of two big feuds (Taker/Kane and Benoit/Rock) being shoved into one match than Taker/Rock feuding. Well, yeah, but Rock and Taker also had their own problems leading into the match. I remember Taker chokeslamming Rock on a Smackdown or Raw right before the PPV. They may not have been feuding directly, but they were still involved in a feud against each other and fought one another on a PPV. I would still consider that a feud, although it may be a more minor case than the others. Randy Savage and Jake The Snake also had a relatively nice, long feud - but I don't recall them wrestling each other at WrestleMania.

Thats even weirder. Two Main Eventers for the past 5 years (in UT's case, too lnog to count) have rarely feuded. They've had their fair share of matches with each other. King of the Ring 1999 Unforgiven 2000 No Way Out 2002 Vengeance 2002 And countless Raw matches where JR would proclaim "My gawd, never have we seen a match of THIS magnitude on Raw before." Despite the fact the match had taken place like two weeks ago.

Shawn Michaels and the Undertaker fought several times on PPV (IYH: Ground Zero, IYH: Badd Blood, Royal Rumble Casket Match), but they never fought at a WrestleMania.

HHH/Taker wrestled at WrestleMania X-7. Might want to change that

Rock/Mankind. The feud lasted from about November 1998 to February 1999, with four title changes: Rock-Mankind-Rock-Mankind-Rock. Then, right before WrestleMania, it was dropped in favor of a Austin/Rock match. They would eventually fight each other in 2000, but I don't think we can really count the Fatal Four-Way.