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Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Suck – Part 4 Hulk Hogan v The Warrior – Halloween Havoc 1998 Billed as an ultra important rematch that the people have been waiting 8 years for, this is actually an exercise in ego placating that has been 8 years in the making. Warrior beat Hogan at Wrestlemania VI back in 1990, and this is Hogan’s chance to get his win back, and all it cost for this ego trip was about $3m, which is what WCW paid Warrior for this match, and maybe a couple of others, before letting him sit at home for the remainder of his deal due to Warrior being totally useless. This match was straight out of the 80’s, with slow and plodding brawling, if what these two did can even be called brawling. Indeed, the blows that these two men exchanged were so weak, that you’re left wondering why they bothered to sell any of them, when they had all the force of a tortoise’s fart. In the midst of all the sloppy brawling, they squeezed in a few notable spots from their Wrestlemania match, the three main ones being: 1: Nick Patrick getting bumped by Hogan off a criss-cross spot, but in a very comical manner, due to Hogan barely even touching Patrick, and Patrick throwing himself almost halfway across the ring. 2: After more bad brawling, and the nWo B Team of Giant, Stevie Ray and Vincent running in to play pinball for Warrior’s bad punches, Warrior covered Hogan, even though he could clearly see the referee was still down. This allowed Warrior to check on the referee and, and stop me if you’ve seen this before, allow Hogan to sneak up from behind and hit a belly-to-back suplex. 3: Warrior hitting two double ax handles off the top rope, which Warrior was kind enough to warn Hogan about beforehand, as Warrior was heard telling Hogan, “I’m coming off the ropes.” Somewhere in all this mess, Hogan’s weightlifting belt came into play, with both men using it, and Warrior using it as a makeshift knuckleduster, and getting a little juice from Hogan. This led up to that spot, where Hogan tried to throw a fireball at Warrior, but totally botched it up in such a laughable fashion that the crowd groaned badly, and it was around this point, or maybe even beforehand, that pretty much all the heat vanished from the arena. Not that the crowd were molten for this abomination to begin with, but what heat this match had had evaporated into nothingness by now. Remember at the beginning how I said the match was straight out of the 80’s ? Well, so was the finish. Eric Bischoff hit ringside, and jumped up onto the apron and grabbed the referee in a side headlock, which allowed Horace Hogan, who Hulk had beaten down on the previous Nitro, to hit the ring and turn heel by giving Warrior a very gentle chair shot to the back, which Warrior sold like he’d been hit with a shotgun at close range. Hogan made the cover, hooked the tights, and Eric let go of the referee who counted the pinfall, giving Hogan his win, his ego boost, and ending this absolute disaster of a ‘match’. The Horace Hogan turn on Warrior, when he had just got beaten up Hogan and the B Team the week before, was explained the next night on Nitro as tough love or some other such nonsense. So, what did Eric Bischoff and WCW get out of paying Warrior $3m so Hogan could get his win back ? They got the single worst match in WCW/NWA PPV history, and the worst match to ever take place during the WCW v WWF rivalry. This total joke of a wrestling match had absolutely no redeeming features at all. Not even watching Hogan botch a spot in such a monumentally incompetent fashion could give this stinking pile of shit any value. I know why this match took place, but quite why anyone would think fans would give a damn about this match, when the clamor for a rematch had died out almost as soon as the first match had ended, I don’t know. Even if every single demeaning and negative word in the English language was wheeled out, you would still fail to accurately describe this utter shambles of a match. Rating: Absolute Suck.

That'd be the greatest work ever <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It would be the most well executed work that would never draw a dime and turn so many people off that it wouldn't be funny.

They'd have to get in line first.

Half of their audience has quit watching in the last five years. That didn't change anything.

That's one of the more underrated dickhead, bullshit, double crosses of all time. How Hogan didn't receive more heat over that (if the accusations are true) is beyond me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> did he sabotage the match? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...meaning like did he pay off nick patrick? ive heard about the whole thing, but i never heard that hogan tried to sabotage the match. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Meaning he convinced Patrick to make a regular count, instead of the fast count he was supposed to make. Everyone knew what happened but nobody was going to say anything because it was Hogan who did it. Sting didn't want to believe it for a long time, but eventually he accepted it, albeit reluctantly. If you buy the PPV on home video, they actually speed up the count so it looks like it was fast.

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That's one of the more underrated dickhead, bullshit, double crosses of all time. How Hogan didn't receive more heat over that (if the accusations are true) is beyond me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> did he sabotage the match? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes.

Because the only ones capable of making him look like he's any good are in the main event scene.

It helped that he wasn't being written to say things that you know he would never say in real life. It's hard to sound convincing delivering lines you know you would never say. As for Shelton botching moves when springboarding off the ropes, you need to remember that those are actual ropes, and not the steel cables that they have in pretty much every other promotion. It's a hell of a lot harder to get the traction and stability on the ropes than it is on the cable, hence the slipping. When a lot of the WCW guys came over in 2001 they hated having to use the ropes in WWE because of the lack of traction. Having actual ropes is about the one thing from the old days that Vince won't change, because, to him, that's how it's always been.

Batista is sticking around. He's going to gut out the injury and keep working. Not that bringing Jericho back couldn't hurt, but it wouldn't solve the underlying problem.

The only one who had a problem during that was Shawn, and the temper tantrum he threw half-way into the match. Shawn had a lot of them that year.

It was just an angle. Of course they used stuntmen. No. The angle played out pretty much as it was meant to. The only thing about it that didn't go as plan was that Rock wasn't meant to actually hit the floor. After angle at Summerslam, I think Sapphire disappeared. I believe it then segued into the Dibiase vs Rhodes storyline.

Was that the guy who had like 28" biceps, and they had like one segment about how good he looked? I don't remember anything else about the guy, except he really wasn't in good shape, BUT MY GOD LOOK AT THOSE BICEPS! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe you're thinking of Jake Strauss(?), He was part of a piece where Paul Orndorff was at the Arnold Classic, and they showed this guy flexing his huge biceps. They were implants. Naturally, Orndorff was fawning all over him, and played him up like he had huge potential.

It was an angle, but the injury was real. Mabel broke his orbital bone at a house show just prior, so they made it part of the storyline by having the heels crush his face.

His new nickname should have been Fed-Ex. "When you absolutely, positively have to blow $3 million overnight"

He was closer to Pillman than Eddie, but he was at Eddie's funeral.

WWE don't book OVW. Paul Heyman does. And he's a fan of Punk. And the rumor is correct.

He had definitely changed. A lot.

You can defend that part of it because he had a broken hand. But the rest of the wrestlers were talented enough to carry things.

And that match was a huge letdown, considering that heel side had more than enough talent to carry things.

That's something a lot of people are missing in their desire for Monty to get the belt ASAP. When it's Monty's time, he should get the belt, but that time is not now, and it's way into the future.

Air Kawada

TNA want Heyman. They'd be fools not to want somebody with Heyman's mind. Stephanie wants Heyman out of WWE, but Vince will try to re-sign him anyway, just to keep Heyman away from TNA.

Zuffa didn't make up a lot of the new rules. Dana White likes to say that they came about after Zuffa brought UFC, but most of them were already there.

All true. Except for...Parents bragging about their kids constantly, for the most part, is annoying as fuck It's never not annoying. What made him get cheered when he was a heel is that he was a heel, and acting like the fans wanted him to act as a heel. Turning him babyface took all of that away. He's a natural heel. It's like trying to turn Ricky Steamboat heel. It just won't work.