Hunter's Torn Quad

The primary reason WWE moved to USA is that Vince wanted the same kind of deal with Spike that he got the first time, even though ratings and business was way down. Vince wouldn't budge, so Spike told Vince not to let the door hit him on the ass on the way out.

It allows them to bury Warrior for being unprofessional. Hunter went to Warrior with a bunch of ideas for the match, but Warrior refused to do anything but the squash. And Hunter burying someone for being unprofessional brings the irony in spades.

Maybe he tried to eat Chyna out and her man-clit swallowed him up.

They don't just bury the guy, they piss and shit on the grave too.

As I said, he completely and totally stole the spotlight from Warrior. The focus was entirely on Hogan and how gracious he was in defeat. Remember the last image of WM 6 as a folorn Hogan rode off into the sunset? The people didn't think how great it was that Warrior was now champion. They were thinking how gracious and humble Hogan was after he lost.

Who gives a flying fuck?

If you mean how much they're paying Hogan to come in and draw those buys, then they could pay off a few Diva Search contest winners with what Hogan gets per PPV.

Did you start your Joshi viewing with Dream Slam II? I could see where you are coming from. Another thing about some of their shows is the pacing. On Dream Slam II, there are a ton of great matches before that main event tag match that by the time you get there, the wind is taken out of your sails. (sort of like HHH and Jericho trying to follow Hogan/Rock at WM18) I've found myself loving a lot of the matches as a stand alone versus part of a show because of this reason. I watched most of DS II before watching the main event, but I watched the main as a stand alone match.

Joshi I’m a fan of Joshi, but not a big fan of it. Some of the matches I like and I’ve seen a few that really blow me away. But a lot of it, or at least the majority of what I’ve seen, is just move after move after move, with nothing between the moves but more moves. An example would be the legendary tag team main event of All Japan Women’s All Star Dream Slam II that a lot of people called the greatest match ever. I watched it and, while I appreciated the work and liked it, I certainly wouldn’t call it great, because it was just a mind numbing series of constant moves with almost nothing holding it together. Genchiro Tenryu Tenryu is one grumpy old bastard, and I love him for it. He’s just so great at playing the role of the grumpy veteran who isn’t about to roll over and lay down for the upstart punks that are coming his way. His match with Yoshinori Ogawa at the Destiny was thoroughly entertaining due to Tenryu treating Ogawa like a punk. Tenryu was a great worker in his prime, and while he has obviously slipped a little since then, he’s still incredibly entertaining, and is what Ric Flair wishes he was. Harley Race Harley Race is a true legend in wrestling. He was a great world champion, he could wrestle against anyone, and he was tremendous talker. I love watching Race wrestle because he actually wrestles.

Do you always post like that? Read what Meltzer wrote about the lawsuit when it first filed. Then you'll actually know what you're talking about. And Simon Inoki has said that he has been told by Lesnar's lawyers that Lesnar can wrestle for New Japan.

Then I guess I only imagined Goldberg being relegated to the semi-main event position on the next two PPV's after his win and not even wrestling at Fall Brawl or World War II. Yeah, Goldberg was put over(!).

How else do you expect certain people around here to keep living in denial? They've got to have some plausible excuse to avoid facing up to what they deep down already know. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As far as the "availability issues" line, that's not denial, that's the truth...what little bit of the outside stuff I've seen has been good, but since I don't see it enough, it's hard for me to get into and follow since I'm not able to see it all the time like others...hell I didn't start caring about WCW until 1995 when Nitro debuted...now I did go back and watch older WCW stuff that was available and got caught up on it's history, but if I don't have access to Japan/Mexico stuff, i don't have access to it, that's the bottom line...I'm not going to go into detail as to why I don't have access as I don't feel that's necessary, but "availability issues" is the answer, pure and simple...I know a lot of the "outside of North America" product is vastly superior to the WWE these days, hell any idiot could see that, I won't deny that at all, but don't lump folks into one category just because they don't know much aobut life outside of the WWE... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Between fast internet connections and various file-sharing programs and wrestling DVD's being available at almost ridiculously low prices there is absolutely no excuse for someone to not at least sample something other than WWE. If someone cannot spare less than $10 for a DVD of quality wrestling, or if they are too cheap even for that and they can't spare them time to download a free file-sharing program and download the stuff for free, then they really have no place claiming that any one person is the best wrestler in the world when they have clearly shown they have no desire to expand their horizons beyond one promotion.

Hogan totally stole the spotlight from Warrior at WM 6. Instead of the fans thinking, "Wow, Warrior just beat Hogan. He's the man", they were thinking, "Wow, Hogan is so great even in defeat. Let's cheer for him". Warrior won the match, but Hogan went over. Same deal with the Rock match at WM X8.

Did he miss the point again?

There isn't. The top stars get to work on their own promos, while the rest of the roster has to make do with whatever crap the writers give them, but no promo is truly ad-libbed.

The Network angle It was a unique way to play off of a real life situation, and it was a great way for Paul E to vent his frustrations with TNN. The seemingly weekly match involving either Crazy vs. Tajiri, Crazy vs. Guido, Tajiri vs. Guido, or a 3-Way Dance involving the 3. Kind of repetitive, but at least it made for a quality match every week. A-Train A-Train was ok, but ok was about it. He had some decent mobility for a guy his size, but that was about all he had going for him really. I don’t miss him. Ken Shamrock Ken was a great fighter in his day, and could more than hold his own. Time seems to have passed him by now on that front, so he really should leave MMA. As a wrestler, he could have really stood out and been something different, fresh, and unique. WWE had other ideas, and quickly turned him into just another wrestler, and his potential was lost.

I'd put my money on Puder in a shoot. Not only is Angle broken down, he hasn't been in a competitive match for almost ten years. Don't buy into the myth that because of his background that Angle is some supershooter. He might be tough, but as a fighter he's nowhere near Puder's level, and Puder himself isn't near the top of the ladder as it is. Ok I just wanna do a what if here...lets say Puder didn't do it to Angle, lets say he did it to Regal. What do you think would have happen? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Puder had put Regal in the kimura? Same deal. Someone in the back would have seen what was happening, and they'd have got out of it. Puder v Regal in a shoot? Puder would beat Regal seven ways from Sunday.

You would think Matt would have delivered some incredibly heated promos given what went down between he, Lita and Edge. Either Matt got it all out of his system on his website, or he was intentionally given a shitty promo to give. I'm guessing it wasn't the first option, given how badly he's been buried.

I'd put my money on Puder in a shoot. Not only is Angle broken down, he hasn't been in a competitive match for almost ten years. Don't buy into the myth that because of his background that Angle is some supershooter. He might be tough, but as a fighter he's nowhere near Puder's level, and Puder himself isn't near the top of the ladder as it is.

The difference between the two is that the people could identify and relate to what Matt Hardy had gone through. That creates the kind of emotional connection that makes people stars. Could Matt have been a star? Maybe, maybe not. But we'll never know now.

I agree that WWE dropped the ball on Matt Hardy. He might not be a main event level player, but he could have been so much more than he is now. Ego got in the way of business, as usual, and Hardy is now the most popular jobber on the roster.

I'd go with these five: The MITB Ladder match at Wrestlemania Kurt Angle v Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania Chris Benoit v Edge at Backlash John Cena v JBL at Judgment Day Shelton Benjamin v Shawn Michaels from Raw In no way am I calling any of these MOTY-level affairs, but they the best matches that WWE have had this year.

If it did, it was only because WWE got lazy and stopped trying. The change itself had no bearing on WWE turning into a cesspool of crap.

You're an entertaining poster. You seem to have a reasonable grasp on things, and I usually read what you post.

Hello #30.