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Yeah Sup, The Wes thing shocked me the most. The AICN spoilers didn't say Wes was dying, so when I read the true blue spoilers my heart sunk. But it works, IMO. Wes hasn't been right for a long time, from the Connor-deal, to Fred and Gunn, to Lilah, back to Fred, the man has been in constant sorrow now looking in on life rather than living it. Illyria learns compassion when Wes dies as she gives him, a lowly human, peace in Fred.

Lorne probably just "gave up" - as reflected in his bar scene in Under. Demoralized to the fullest, he just left. BPS makes a great point, the joining with WR&H was a major thing that has been more-than-hinted-at as a bad thing (Buffy turning away from Angel is the best example). This is them trying to make up for that, and they pay the price. Adding Harmony to the credits is such a cruel joke. A cruel, beautiful, joke.

Oh and the thing with Harmony... That's fucking GREAT!! They build her up as this good-and-nice player (a fucking PLAYER) on the team ALL SEASON LONG *just* to turn her. Cause she's a vampire. She doesn't have a soul. She is evil playing good. And in the end, she shows her true colours. Fuck me standing, that's a great swerve.

My thoughts: I don't think Joss wanted to do a movie-of-the-week, so this is just a big "Fuck You" to the WB. It's such the anti-Buffy finale, where there was resolution and finality to the story. Here, it (may) end in a cliffhanger and they kill off the majority of the cast - it will leave everyone with a big "WHAT THE FUCK?!~". There will be a split between the fans - this will be a "loved it" or "hated it" kinda thing with no middle. Right now, I fucking love it. I didn't think I'd love it, because I'm a happy-ending kinda guy. But I dig the shit out of this ending cause it's so over the top. They are going out with a bang - you gotta appreciate the balls it takes to do that.

My problem with Austin stunnering Stacy wasn't because she was a woman, but because she was a woman would *wouldn't drink with him*. Then, the next week, she did. Moral of the story?

Scott Adams vs Ian Freeman Really fun ground fight with Adams being the leglock KING and Freeman teaching "leglock escapes 101". Ultimately, he couldn't escape them all and tapped. Jens Pulver vs David Velasquez Velasquez's face, meet Jens Pulvers fists - you guys will get to know eachother well. Big props to Velasquez for taking that much punishment and this fight made me wish Jens was back in the UFC. Good stand-up action, some really solid strikes and stiff shots from Pulver. Tiki Ghosn vs Bob Cook MOTN IMO. Some good standup and ground work - I wish I taped this. Dave Menne vs Fabiano Iha Pretty boring and uneventful. The most notable thing in this fight? Menne's sideburns. Lance Gibson vs Jermaine Andre SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK (!!!!) knee at the end there. Andre looked DEAD. Pretty boring up to that, but the finish totally made it worthwhile. Tedd Williams vs Steve Judson It was funny to watch this fat guy basically rope-a-dope this ripped guy and then knock him the fuck out.

When you think about it, it does kinda fit in with Lornes character. I just couldn't believe it. This could quite possibly be the best series finale ever. RRR: Making the spoilers even more tempting Ok, Wes, Gunn, Cordy, Fred... the death toll for this season is fucking HARDCORE.

OH MY GODjhiogaesjdklf hjklshegdkl:jklpgsdjkl DO NOT READ THIS! For the love of GOD do not read this! You know why you don't read spoilers? THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T READ SPOILERS! HOLY CRAP! HOLY FUCKING CRAP! HOLY FUCKING JESUS LORD GOD FUCKING CRAP! DO NOT READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEGA HUGE FUCKING SPOILERS! DO NOT READ IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!! This deals with the series finale. ... Lindsey McDonald? DEAD! Wesley? DEAD! Charles Gunn? DEAD! Harmony Kendall? The Judas who betrays them all! The final scene? A CLIFFHANGER (yes, A CLIFFHANGER!!) as Angel, Spike and Illyria are about to square off against the senior partners! These come from spoilerslayer.com, which indicates they come from a source proven 100-percent accurate this season. (Meanwhile, Fox News has been reporting since Friday night that as many as six “Angel” TV movies are now in the works. I’ve not yet been able to confirm yet, though.) Read all the gory details at http://www.spoilerslayer.com/archives/003013.php (in full) Angel: Not Fade Away (5.22) Angel is playing the bad boy in order to figure out who he has to go through to get to the Senior Partners. It's unclear if he tells the others prior to this episode, or if the rest of 'Angel Investigations' is at a loss as to what is happening to him. He does explain early in this episode, and tells everyone to go prepare themselves for the final battle. This then ties in with the one casting side, which has Angel seeing Connor, Spike in a bar, and Gunn seeing Anne. When they gather, they have to split up into different groups because there are multiple targets that need to be taken out (I have a feeling that they will be taking out most of the factions we see in 'Power Play'). Once this is done, they will meet up again and proceed to the final battle either to get to, or with, the Senior Partners. Lindsey, Eve, and Connor all take part in these missions, fighting on the side of Angel. However, Angel has been forewarned that there is a traitor in their midst. Things get a bit unclear here, as to who is fighting what, but this is the outcome of these missions. Wesley dies during his mission, and while he's dying Illyria appears to change once more into Fred and cries over him. Gunn will die after he succeeds in completing his mission, while on his way back to the others. Lorne is battling with Lindsey, and after they succeed in their mission, Lorne shoots Lindsey and kills him. Eve is heartbroken, and I believe that Lorne simply leaves everyone at this time. His work is done, and he told everyone that before they went out to fight. Angel is losing in his fight with Hamilton, when Connor arrives and together they defeat him (or run him off). Connor then goes back to his family. Why do these missions go so poorly? Probably because Harmony is in bed with Hamilton (literally). Hamilton turned her against the rest of the gang, and she revealed what they were planning to do. The final scene? Somewhere, more than likely another dimension perhaps, Angel and Spike and Illyria face off against a dragon. It's unclear if this is the guardian to the Senior Partners or the physical manifestation of the Senior Partners.

Aw crud, I wanted to see Zombie Angle. "Muuuuust... EEEEEat... Braaaaains! Muuuuuust... EEEEEAT.... BRRAAAAAAINNNS!... It's... Truuuuue... IIIIT'SSS ... TRUUUUUUUE"

2 Hour Block of UFC on TSN tonight at 12. I hear it is UFC 24: First Defense. Which is inreference to Kevin Randleman's first title defense against Pedro Rizzo. However, before the event started Randleman slipped and fell and the match was called off. From what I hear, it's a good event. Match List: Shonie Carter vs Brad Gumm Scott Adams vs Ian Freeman Jens Pulver vs David Velasquez Tiki Ghosn vs Bob Cook Dave Menne vs Fabiano Iha Lance Gibson vs Jermaine Andre Tedd Williams vs Steve Judson

Basically, any challenger will be "forced" in this situation, since there are no real major heels to challenge Eddy that seem to belong in the role. Brock is gone, Angle's too injured for now (otherwise he would be the natural choice), Cena is a face and isn't ready, Taker is a face and they haven't used him on TV since the pre-lottery SD, Big Show WOULD be the natural choice but apparenty is too injured so they're doing this stupid angle, Booker hasn't been built up yet as a worthy challenger, etc. *Ding* Which is why the Holly situation was worse. They _had_ someone who could have filled the role (should have filled the role) and instead they went to Bob fucking Holly. With Bradshaw they didn't have any good options, they were all bad ones.

Again, that may have been 'better' than Bradshaw, but it wasn't overwhelmingly better like Benoit was. Bradshaw cuts better promos and is a more interesting character than Booker, and since I don't think much of bookers wrestling ability I won't say Booker is equally better in-ring as to justify him over Bradshaw. Status-wise, the jump in the card would be more natural for Booker, since fans see him as a semi-main eventer and bradshaw as a strinctly tag team guy. But it's not a natural feud, it's a forced one. Them putting Booker on smackdown didn't make me immediately think "Sweet! Feud against Eddie!"; so I don't know how "logical" it would have been.

I thought it was. In the "desperate to get this over" kinda way. I respect that. I'm trying to get "and just when (Insert Wrestler here) and (Insert another wrestler here) breathe a sigh of relief, they bukkake Miss Jackie" over. It can work for ANYTHING! ANYTHING! ANYTHING!! *Gets dragged away by mods* ANYTHING!!!!!!

I think you are misinterpreting a lot of the signs. There was a backlash against the original rules and it wasn't because people "didn't want changes", it's just they were drastic changes that were implemented (seemingly) out of the blue. People want mods to be active in the forum when they need to be; ie. when similar threads are made and the board is cluttered with useless, repetitive topics. If it is not needed, then people don't want to see the mods there. The forum is too positive or negative, you have to check your source on that and what they're specifically talking about. I've been often called "the board" by various posters, and it's not because of my post count. People have different perspectives; there have been threads with basically just me and Anglesault not liking something vs. a dozen other posters who did and _they_ make comments like "why is everyone bitching?". From my POV, there are more "positive" people in the WWE folder, however, the "negative" people just have a louder "voice" as to seem like they represent the majority AND the WWE does enough dumb stuff to give those regularly positive people something to dislike. Go to some PPV threads, the Royal Rumble or NWO threads, and you'll see what I'm sayin. At most, you'll have me, AS, Wildpeg, Sakura, Tawren 'bitching', and about 15-20 others disagreeing. And just so you don't misinterpret this, I am not saying there are "too many" positive people. I do, however, think that there are too many people who think about (and over) things "lightly". That's personal preference, I guess.

Holly, simply because they had a better feud in Brock vs. Benoit that they just completely dropped. With Bradshaw, who would Eddie face instead? The alternatives aren't much better. Rey, maybe???? That's the best I can think of, and that's a stretch and isn't nearly as good as the Brock vs. Benoit possibility. The only thing Holly had going for him was motivation. It was a good premise, "Holly coming back to get revenge on Brock". But then they changed it to "Holly coming back to win the title" and lost all of its meaning.

I have a question. Does Nick have problems? Warrick has gambling. Grissom has his hearing. Catherine has her ex. Sara has her 'love life'. What does Nick have??

And finally, how the hell are Joss & co. going to answer all the questions and mysteries the season has brought up over the years in the last five episodes? Will Angel fulfill the Sanshu prophecies? That's the biggest "mystery" in the shows history. They will _have to_ touch up on it, especially since they've made it a plotpoint this season. Why was Angel given that amulet, and was Spike really meant to end up with it? Well, you can look at it 2 ways. The SrPartners gave it to Angel hoping that he'd die with it, Lindsay planted it (via Eve) to kill Angel, or they knew about Spike and wanted him in. How the hell did Lindsey get the amulet from the ruins of the hellmouth? He went and found it. Picked through the pieces. Since he was jakked up mystically, it wouldn't have been that hard. Why was Spike brought back as a ghost, and then later rematerialized? (For that matter, did or will we ever get a firm answer on who/how/why Angel was brought back from hell in Buffy Season 3, anyway?) That was Lindsay trying to complicate the operation. Spike and Angel were supposed to kill each other finding the 'holy grail'. It wasn't his masterplan, but it would have been a nice bonus. What was the "final failsafe" that Lindsey was trying to activate? That's supposed to be a mystery. I think that's a "your imagination could come up with a better answer" kinda thing. It was big, it had claws, it was specifically designed to kill Angel. That's all ya need to know. What the hell is this new apocalypse that they just sprung on us out of nowhere? No, that's the point, it didn't spring out of nowhere. It's been there for a long time, building. Why is it worse than the 1473 other apocalypsi that Buffy and Angel have previously stopped? Because it came up from under their nose. They let it happen. Why would the Senior Partners come up with this elaborate scheme to distract and corrupt Angel & co, instead of just killing them? Angel is prophecized to be a major player in the Apocalypse, either for the side of good or evil, that's why they keep him around. They tried turning him into Angelus, they tried forcing it, but now they're taking a different approach. And it's working, they've managed to skew his morality and stop him from being a champion. Just who the hell are the Senior Partners, anyway? "They were just above vampires in my time" - Illyria. The Pylea book had them represented by a wolf, ram, and a deer (heart). They obviously moved up in the universe when all the demon gods left. I really hope they explain who the Senior Parners are too, because they're like Book; they give us a lot of hints at who they are, but they haven't outright said it. And finally, will either ensouled vampire ever end up with Buffy? No. Of course not. That means happy people in relationships, this is Joss Whedon, shit like that don't fly.

I wonder if they will explain this in the storylines? They haven't explained him off TV since Mania, so they may just keep running with that. Anywho, I'm fucking celebrating cause every time Austin was on TV I changed the channel.

They kinda blew their chance to really do that during the Draft Lottery show, with both locker rooms all out there. Yes, they blew their chance indeed.

Danny Glover in Maverick. The scene where he and Gibson eye each other is fantasic.

It sorta kills the purpose of having Tyson in K-1 if he can't go to Japan to fight. I guess they can make the money back through TV, but still, it's not the same effect. I was watching some 'classic' tyson and goddamn was he a fucking monster in the ring. I think he'll fight for them; it'll be interesting to see who they put him up against.

This should probably be its own thread, but whatever..... *K-1 announced today that they have officially signed Mike Tyson for three fights with the Japanese based promotion. Tyson signed on 4/11 and will be in attendance, but not fighting at K-1's "Battle at the Bellagio II" show on 4/30 in Las Vegas. It is believed that Tyson's first fight with the group will be around 7/31. Due to visa issues, Tyson will not be fighting in Japan. K-1 is looking at his first fight to take place at either Madison Square Garden in New York or the Staples Center in Los Angeles. -liveaudiowrestling.com

Rico vs. MB would be brilliant though. You could build it up as this huge, controversial, train-wreck waiting to happen of a match, and then have them wrestle straight for the whole time. Just when Cole and Tazz are about to breathe a sigh of relief, they bukkake Miss Jackie.

And maybe he has a manager who carries with him hand lotion and kleenex. And... maybe his downfall would be, in midmatch, he has to go jack it, so he goes under the ring and... Oh god, I've gone too far.

I think the better idea for the MB is to have him constantly -if not pathologically- jerk off and splooge in other peoples cereal and drinks. RRR: No Warnings Needed.