The Old School questions thread

[ryankeast 0]

Did Adrian Adonis ever carry a Fragrance to the ring with him like Ric Martel did with his "Arragonce."

 

If he did what was the name of it?

[CanadianChris 0]

I know Adonis used an atomizer as a weapon against Piper during the buildup to their WMIII match, but I don't know if he carried it to the ring on a regular basis.

[Hasbeen1 0]

He did that on Saturday Night's Main Event to Piper, just watched it again the other day. I don't ever remember it being used anymore.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Was there any particular reason why Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart were in separate matches at Survivor Series 89?

 

Despite using the same music, they were an on-again off-again team at the time.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"How did the feud with Hogan and the Dungeon of Doom end?"

 

The kayfabe answer to this:

 

Kevin Sullivan did an interview with the Dungeon shortly after Hogan's turn on WCW to form the nWo. Sullivan announced that Hogan had succeeded himself in doing what Sullivan was destined to do, destroy "Hulkamania". Hogan got significant time off following the DoomsDay Cage match at Uncensored '96, which allowed Giant to focus on Flair's World Title, Flair to focus on winning the tag titles from Sting & Luger, and the Dungeon to briefly feud with the Horsemen. Sullivan had no real beef with Arn after a few matches, which you could see when Sullivan seconded Arn on the second to last Nitro of May '96 for a "fair" title shot against Giant.

[JimmyHendricks 0]

Was there any particular reason why Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart were in separate matches at Survivor Series 89?

 

Despite using the same music, they were an on-again off-again team at the time.

 

 

IIRC, Vince was trying to push them both as singles, for whatever reason. Of course, this would repeat, and stay permanent, in 1991.

[JimmyHendricks 0]

3.) Did Ric Flair and Sgt. Slaughter ever wrestle each other? And if so, any televised matches?

 

They wrestled on SuperStars in 1992 after WMVIII. Flair pinned Slaughter when The Mountie zapped Slaughter w/ the shockstick.

 

I remember that match. Mountie used a super cattle prod on Slaughter. Vince sold it like it killed him

[Richard 0]

Did WCW ever reveal/admit that the Giant was not really Andre's son?

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Yes, sort of, though I only recently found this out myself.

 

During a Nitro in September/October 96 where the nWo had taken over, Hall asks Giant "was Andre really your dad?". Giant doesn't really answer and kind of shrugs it all off.

[Jericholic82 0]

1.) How did the feud with Hogan and the Dungeon of Doom end?

 

2.) Why did Jimmy Hart turn on Hogan at Havoc 95?

 

3.) Did Ric Flair and Sgt. Slaughter ever wrestle each other? And if so, any televised matches?

2. Thats a good question. I guess he got mad at him? I forget what the exact reason given was (if indeed there was a reason ever given) anyone know?

[King Kamala 0]

What's the deal with Mark Nulty? What's his experience in the wrestling industry? I've heard references to him being a ring announcer and an announcer for ROH tapes and what not. Was he a ring announcer before he started up Wrestling Classics?

 

 

 

I've heard about several experiences where people have met him and he's a really arrogant dick and he certainly comes across as one on his message board. But I was just wondering if there was any reason for his arrogance (if there is any)

[JHawk 0]

Can't say I know the deal with Nulty's arrogance, because he was cordial to me at the CAC banquet a couple of years ago.

[humanoid92 0]

This is more of a comment which doesn't warrant a thread, but I didn't see that type of thread in this folder, so I guess I can turn this into a question.

 

I was watching Bret Hart's first IC Title win against Mr. Perfect and I was thinking about how Perfect left active competition for over a year afterwards due to a back injury. I know the plan was to get the IC Title on to Bret all along, so he didn't exactly luck into getting the gold just because there was no choice other than for Perfect to drop it. But still, the fact is, in hindsight, Bret had to win that match because Perfect was going away for awhile. That got me thinking about Bret's other first Title wins...

 

Tag Titles: The Hart Foundation beat the British Bulldogs in a short match in which the Dynamite Kid was basically unable to compete due to a severe injury. Again, I believe the Harts would have eventually won the Titles, but with Dynamite's injury the change had to be made immediately. Dynamite tried to come back from the injury way too quickly and the Bulldogs stuck around in a diminished role for over a year, but there was no way the WWF was ever going to put the belts back on them given Dynamite's fragile condition.

 

WWF Title: This one Bret did kind of luck into at first. Ric Flair had an inner-ear problem, couldn't wrestle for the next six weeks, and needed to drop the Title. Bret became the guy. Three months later, Flair was out of the WWF anyway, and would have had to have dropped the Title sometime soon.

 

Basically, the observation I'm getting at is that all of Bret's first Title wins coincided with his championship opponents dealing with extenuating circumstances (injuries). So then, I started to think of all of Bret's second reigns...

 

Tag Titles: The Hart Foundation defeated Demolition to regain the Tag Team Titles. This clearly marked the beginning of Demolition's fall from the top. Ax, half of the original team was gone within several months due to health problems, and the heel Smash & Crush version of the team was a shell of the former team. Within a year the team was broken up and both guys were repackaged. With Ax on the outs, and the lack of willingness to push Smash and Crush as a bogus version of the team, there was no choice but to have Demolition drop the belts at this point.

 

IC Title: Bret defeated Piper to regain the IC Title, which he arguably never should have lost in the first place. Piper only really got the belt in the first place to job it back to Bret, but still, Piper stopped actively competing immediately after the match and wouldn't be seen again for the better part of two years.

 

WWF Title: Bret defeated Yokozuna to regain the WWF Title. Within a couple months, Yokozuna was off TV, coming back for only one PPV match in the next year. So once again, Bret's opponent ended up taking time off... so it only made sense for him to drop the belt... to Bret.

 

So, to turn this into a question now:

 

1) How much did Bret's Title wins have to do with him being in the right place at the right time?

 

2) Can you think of any other decorated superstar that went through similar situations, where his opponents left the company shortly after many, if not all, of his multiple championship victories?

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"Can you think of any other decorated superstar that went through similar situations, where his opponents left the company shortly after many, if not all, of his multiple championship victories?"

 

Shawn Michaels

 

IC Title win over British Bulldog - Bulldog left 2 weeks later

 

IC Title win over Jeff Jarrett - Jarrett was gone a week fews after

 

World Title win over Bret Hart - Bret leaves for 7-8 months immediately

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

WWF Title: This one Bret did kind of luck into at first. Ric Flair had an inner-ear problem, couldn't wrestle for the next six weeks, and needed to drop the Title. Bret became the guy. Three months later, Flair was out of the WWF anyway, and would have had to have dropped the Title sometime soon.

Bret getting the belt had nothing to do with Flair's inner-ear problem. It was a combination of Vince needing to create a new top babyface and it being one that wasn't going to test positive for steroids, because Vince was dead serious about the testing back then.

[reign 0]

HBK left for 4 years after SCSA beat him he was always going ot sin and HBK was always going to leave....

 

What was the storyline in ECW that allowd Shane Douglas to leave at what looks like his hey day in Philly to go and become Dean Douglas in WWF? It seems to really be a situation where Shane went against everything he was about(I know he really hated Flair and WCW) to get a shot in Vince's world...you would've thought that the ECW fans would've ate him up when he came back and Heyman too....

[Jericholic82 0]

"Can you think of any other decorated superstar that went through similar situations, where his opponents left the company shortly after many, if not all, of his multiple championship victories?"

 

Shawn Michaels

 

IC Title win over British Bulldog - Bulldog left 2 weeks later

 

IC Title win over Jeff Jarrett - Jarrett was gone a week fews after

 

World Title win over Bret Hart - Bret leaves for 7-8 months immediately

actually jarrett was gone after the ppv wasnt he? I mean I dont remember seeing him at all till the december 95 In Your House

[JHawk 0]

Jarrett and Roadie were both basically gone before the show went off the air. I remember them showing briefly on Raw that it was actually The Roadie singing "With My Baby Tonight", then a quick mention of how both men left the company, then nothing until Jarrett's return that December.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

The reveal of The Real Double J singing at the July 95 PPV didn't come out on TV until the fall of 1996, when Jarrett signed with WCW. At least, they certainly portrayed that news as earth shattering when I was watching those Raws recently.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Yeah, that was terrible. No one gave a crap, but they ran endless segments on that, as if anyone cared about the Roadie or Double J.

[cawthon777 0]

Yeah, that was terrible. No one gave a crap, but they ran endless segments on that, as if anyone cared about the Roadie or Double J.

 

I think it was done to 1) promote the return of the Roadie as a babyface and 2) trash Jarrett who had just showed up in WCW.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Yeah, that's true. Anytime a guy would jump to WCW around that time, they'd try to do what they could to make them look bad. I remember when Curt Hennig suddenly jumped to WCW, they replayed that angle where Triple H pretended to attack Hennig backstage by pushing a cart into him, and Vince tried to play it off like Triple H was disposing of Hennig after he won the IC Title.

[Timmy8271 0]

Nulty use to announce I think either for World class or Local Florida indy promotions. He's been around since the late 80's.

 

He's not very well liked down here. People like the bust his balls for being such a douche.

 

I got a question. How many matches did Demolition have with the Brainbusters?

[Bruce Blank 0]

I got a question. How many matches did Demolition have with the Brainbusters?

You want the EXACT number? they had loads and loads of matches all around the house show circuit (check out www.thehistoryofwwe.com for full show listings)

[Timmy8271 0]

I should have said TV matches.

[pochorenella 0]

The only ones I remember are the two Tag Title matches where the belts changed hands on each. I believe they were SNME matches.

[MDH257 0]

There was a match on SNME where Demolition got disqualifed that led to the 2/3 falls match. Arn & Tully defended the titles against them at MSG and it was broadcast on MSG network, I think in Sept. '89.

[cawthon777 0]

I've heard about several experiences where people have met him and he's a really arrogant dick and he certainly comes across as one on his message board. But I was just wondering if there was any reason for his arrogance (if there is any)

 

I can't explain why it's there but I can vouch for it.

[Naked Snake 0]

Anyone know what Hollywood Hogan weighed in 1996? He looks way smaller from the 80's, but his arms still look great.

[CanadianChris 0]

I think he was usually announced as being around 270-275. Down about 30 pounds from his peak (he was always announced as 303 during his big WWF run).