Perfxion 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 In light of the billions and billions of threads of greatest...{ }..of all time, and S&M starting his own HOF thread. I thought about doing a TSM Hall of Fame. It will be done by voting by YOU the readers of this folder. There has to be a floor and there needs to be some rules. To count in this, an artist must past these two rules: 1: Artist or Group must have been out for atleast 5 years. 2: Artist or Group must have atleast one hit, cult or mainstream. The rules of this Hall of Fame: -In this thread, name every rapper, producer, or group you feel belong in a Hall of Fame. It doesn't matter if others agree or not. -After a few days the pool will close and the voting will begin, in another thread. -Try not to repete names but just name artist you feel belong. -Groups or Solo work would not matter. -In the voting thread, vote the 10 you feel belong. Rank them in order and list why(so a bio in the HOF thread). -The point system of 10 points for number 1 votes, 9 points for number 2 votes, ect. ect. will be used as to see who makes it. -The top 10 with the most number of points gets into the Hall of Fame. So for this thead, just "pimp" who you feel belongs into the Hall of Fame. I will start off with 10: Run DMC KRS One Tupac Notorious BIG Big Daddy Kane Rakim Chuck D OutKast MC Lyte NWA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Neptunes Public Enemy Jay-Z Grandmaster Flash Sugarhill Gang Eminem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Warfare 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 (edited) Dr Dre Public Enemy NWA Notorious BIG Edited September 2, 2003 by hockey_fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S&M Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Biggie Grandmaster Flash Public Enemy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Slick Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Russell Simmons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 short LL NWA whodini fat boys doug e fresh beastie boys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 2pac Eminem Dr. Dre Snoop Dogg Run DMC Grandmaster Flash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest William E Report post Posted September 3, 2003 KRS-1 Eminem Rakim Biggie Tupac Jay-Z Dr Dre Nas Russel Simmons Puff Daddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shlidgn90 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 africa bambataa rick rubin/russell simmons kool herc (created hip-hop) fab 5 freddy no one else deserves to be on this list. especially current rappers or overhyped rappers/pop stars like tupac and biggie. to the person who made this list. hip-hop was created twenty years ago, not when nwa hit the scene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HungryJack Report post Posted September 3, 2003 SO the guys who are in part responsible for bringing hip-hop to the mainstream, and gaining mainstream acceptance, aren't as worthy as the creators ??? Bullshit, sez I. This whole thread is a fucking joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 (edited) SO the guys who are in part responsible for bringing hip-hop to the mainstream, and gaining mainstream acceptance, aren't as worthy as the creators ??? Bullshit, sez I. This whole thread is a fucking joke. Who knows rap better than HungryJack who comes from the streets of BK, the home of Biggie and Jay... oh wait, aren't you from CANADA? Anyway I'd vote personally: Run DMC Dr. Dre BIG Tupac Snoop Dogg Outkast Public Enemy Jay-Z Ice Cube Nas Edited September 3, 2003 by TheGame2705 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted September 3, 2003 People are only eligible for most real hall of fames after a long amount of time has passed since when they started. With the passage of time it becomes easier to see who really mattered. Will anyone really care about DMX 20 years from now? Also, real hall of fames are very hard to get into. Jose Canseco is one of the greatest baseball players I have ever watched, but from what I understand he doesn't have the numbers to make the hall. Of course, this is internet message board hall of fame, so people can do whatever they want. The following three DJs would be the first inductions into a hip hop hall of fame, no question. Really, this wouldn't even be voted on. These are the inventors of rap music. Kool DJ Herc Grandmaster Flash Afrika Bambaataa For groups/ artists I guess I will say: Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (you all realize that Flash didn't rap, right?) Kurtis Blow Run DMC LL Cool J Beastie Boys Public Enemy Boogie Down Productions (KRS One) Eric B & Rakim Producers: Rick Rubin Bomb Squad Businessman: Russel Simmons And a real hip hop hall of fame would also have breakdancers and graffiti artists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted September 3, 2003 But this is TSM. TSM having a hip-hop hall of fame is like the KKK having a civil rights memorial erected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HungryJack Report post Posted September 3, 2003 (edited) SO the guys who are in part responsible for bringing hip-hop to the mainstream, and gaining mainstream acceptance, aren't as worthy as the creators ??? Who knows rap better than HungryJack who comes from the streets of BK, the home of Biggie and Jay... oh wait, aren't you from CANADA? Anyway I'd vote personally: Run DMC Dr. Dre BIG Tupac Snoop Dogg Outkast Public Enemy Jay-Z Ice Cube Nas Firstly.... Yes, I do happen to live in Canada.I also happen to be FROM Wales. As In born there, emigrated here. Where are you from, what do you represent? aside from homosexuality, cuz you never seem to let us forget it. I mean, just look at THIS face. It just screams, "I am my mother's plaything. Dress me up, take me out, fuck me in the ass. You don't even have to buy me duinner. Hell, I'll even let you hit it from the back cuz I pity you." Ha. If you wanna continue to be ignorant and believe that someone need live in a particular area to be well-versed on a particular subject, fine with me. However, due to the wide availability of digital media , CD's and the like, and even printed media, I'll be ever learning more about rap music and the so-called ' hip-hop' culture. And with the advent of this new-fangled 'interweb' technology, I can 'download' music, and 'chat ' with others from AROUND THE WORLD in REAL TIME. Holy crap...I had better make sure to tie the sled dogs tight, lest they get away. So yea, Game. You look like a real gangsta. I'm sure you're from the streets. You're probably gully as fuck. Fuck that. You live in fear of your Catholic mother, bitch. Edited September 3, 2003 by HungryJack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 I chose: Run DMC KRS ONE/Boogie Down Productions Public Enemy Wu-Tang Clan Slick Rick Biz Markie Beastie Boys N.W.A. Outkast Kool Herc LL Cool J Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five Kurtis Blow Ice T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted September 3, 2003 I'll give props to Common. Electric Circus was a hip hop fueled psychadelic trip back into the hazey 70's with Marvin Gaye. Has anyone made a more compelling hop hop record in the past few years? No, not even close. This album blew my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 SO the guys who are in part responsible for bringing hip-hop to the mainstream, and gaining mainstream acceptance, aren't as worthy as the creators ??? Who knows rap better than HungryJack who comes from the streets of BK, the home of Biggie and Jay... oh wait, aren't you from CANADA? Anyway I'd vote personally: Run DMC Dr. Dre BIG Tupac Snoop Dogg Outkast Public Enemy Jay-Z Ice Cube Nas Firstly.... Yes, I do happen to live in Canada.I also happen to be FROM Wales. As In born there, emigrated here. Where are you from, what do you represent? aside from homosexuality, cuz you never seem to let us forget it. I mean, just look at THIS face. It just screams, "I am my mother's plaything. Dress me up, take me out, fuck me in the ass. You don't even have to buy me duinner. Hell, I'll even let you hit it from the back cuz I pity you." Ha. If you wanna continue to be ignorant and believe that someone need live in a particular area to be well-versed on a particular subject, fine with me. However, due to the wide availability of digital media , CD's and the like, and even printed media, I'll be ever learning more about rap music and the so-called ' hip-hop' culture. And with the advent of this new-fangled 'interweb' technology, I can 'download' music, and 'chat ' with others from AROUND THE WORLD in REAL TIME. Holy crap...I had better make sure to tie the sled dogs tight, lest they get away. So yea, Game. You look like a real gangsta. I'm sure you're from the streets. You're probably gully as fuck. Fuck that. You live in fear of your Catholic mother, bitch. Cry me a river....ohhh...cry me a river...cry me, cry me I don't ever remember saying myself that I'm from the hood or dress like it. I think I've actually said that I'm not from the hood nor do I dress like one that likes hip-hop. Why you brought up Wales is interesting, because I don't remember many Brits starting the hip hop movement in America. If you wanna continue to be ignorant and believe that someone need live in a particular area to be well-versed on a particular subject, fine with me. Actually this is an ignorant statement as I think an African family who's mother is dying of AIDS would know more about the struggles in Africa than someone reading about it. Likewise, someone who actually lived in an urban area, particularly, one where a famous rapper came from, would know more about the struggles they rap about. The people who also followed the music from the beginning would be able to see everything as it happened and be able to remember it rather than trying to learn all the years of hip-hop by reading old Source or XXL magazines. Also, you could have made your point without insulting me or taking jabs at the fact that I have a boyfriend. I guess people who can't debate have to curse and talk loud and hope it sounds like an argument though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 Scarface OutKast Nas Jay-Z Biggie Tupac Eminem Big Daddy Kane Kool Moe Dee Mc Lyte Salt & Peppa DJ Premier Guru BDP Rakim Roots Mos Def Common ...more to come... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anorak 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 Tribe Called Quest De La Soul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 Also, for producers: Dan The Automator Simply because he's one of the best around at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shlidgn90 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 SO the guys who are in part responsible for bringing hip-hop to the mainstream, and gaining mainstream acceptance, aren't as worthy as the creators ??? Bullshit, sez I. This whole thread is a fucking joke. then if that is the case, mc hammer is more deserving than anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2003 My noms: A Tribe Called Quest Slick Rick 2 Pac Shakur Ice Cube(he deserves separate nomination from NWA) NWA Beastie Boys Run DMC LL Cool J Eric B & Rakim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BottleRocket Report post Posted September 5, 2003 I would nominate the following artists. Each one debuted between 1979 and 1990 and had a hit single or LP during that time period. I separated solo artists from their groups if they released solo albums during this time period (Slick Rick, Ice Cube, Kool Moe Dee). I'm sure quite a few people with disagree with some of my selections... Afrika Bambaataa & the Soul Sonic Force Run-D.M.C. Grand Wizard Theodore & the Fantastic Five Fat Boys L.L. Cool J. Whodini Treacherous Three Roxanne Shante Funky 4 +1 Cold Crush Brothers Eazy-E Matronix U.T.F.O. Too $hort Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five Sugarhill Gang Kurtis Blow Boogie Down Productions Beastie Boys Chill Rob G. Rob Base & DJ E Z Rock Chubb Rock King Tee Three Times Dope Positive K Main Source Masta Ace Poor Righteous Teachers Busy Bee Spoonie Gee Fab 5 Freddy Fearless Four Kool Moe Dee Just-Ice Salt-n-Pepa Eric B. & Rakim DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince Public Enemy Schoolly D. MC Shan Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew Stetsasonic Ice-T N.W.A. Slick Rick EPMD Big Daddy Kane Ultramagnetic MCs Jungle Brothers MC Lyte Kool G Rap & DJ Polo De La Soul The D.O.C. Geto Boys 3rd Bass Nice & Smooth Biz Markie Queen Latifah Special Ed Heavy D & the Boyz Ice Cube Brand Nubian A Tribe Called Quest Gang Starr Digital Underground Compton's Most Wanted X-Clan In a genre with nearly twenty-five years of history, I think artists that debuted in the mid-to-late 90's do not yet qualify for Hall of Fame status. I suppose Jay-Z could be included based on his contribution to 1990's "The Originators" single on EMI and, technically, 2Pac was a B-Team member of Digital Underground when "This is an EP Release" dropped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2003 Run DMC Public Enemy Tu-Pac Notorious BIG Doug E. Fresh The Fugees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2003 Additions... De La Soul A Tribe Called Quest Gang Starr Blackalicious Cypress Hill The Beastie Boys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2003 I would nominate the following artists. Each one debuted between 1979 and 1990 and had a hit single or LP during that time period. I separated solo artists from their groups if they released solo albums during this time period (Slick Rick, Ice Cube, Kool Moe Dee). I'm sure quite a few people with disagree with some of my selections... Afrika Bambaataa & the Soul Sonic Force Run-D.M.C. Grand Wizard Theodore & the Fantastic Five Fat Boys L.L. Cool J. Whodini Treacherous Three Roxanne Shante Funky 4 +1 Cold Crush Brothers Eazy-E Matronix U.T.F.O. Too $hort Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five Sugarhill Gang Kurtis Blow Boogie Down Productions Beastie Boys Chill Rob G. Rob Base & DJ E Z Rock Chubb Rock King Tee Three Times Dope Positive K Main Source Masta Ace Poor Righteous Teachers Busy Bee Spoonie Gee Fab 5 Freddy Fearless Four Kool Moe Dee Just-Ice Salt-n-Pepa Eric B. & Rakim DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince Public Enemy Schoolly D. MC Shan Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew Stetsasonic Ice-T N.W.A. Slick Rick EPMD Big Daddy Kane Ultramagnetic MCs Jungle Brothers MC Lyte Kool G Rap & DJ Polo De La Soul The D.O.C. Geto Boys 3rd Bass Nice & Smooth Biz Markie Queen Latifah Special Ed Heavy D & the Boyz Ice Cube Brand Nubian A Tribe Called Quest Gang Starr Digital Underground Compton's Most Wanted X-Clan In a genre with nearly twenty-five years of history, I think artists that debuted in the mid-to-late 90's do not yet qualify for Hall of Fame status. I suppose Jay-Z could be included based on his contribution to 1990's "The Originators" single on EMI and, technically, 2Pac was a B-Team member of Digital Underground when "This is an EP Release" dropped. Just because they were old school don't make'm all good though. That list could loose a name or eight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2003 That list maybe long but atleast it is full of different names. Having 10 people all saying Run DMC and Tupac kind of makes for a short list when like 18 people posted. Granted 8 of the names on there wouldn't make it into ANY hall of fame. IE: 3rd Bass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BottleRocket Report post Posted September 6, 2003 3rd Bass is a highly influential group in the history of hip-hop. Both MC Serch and Pete Nice were well-respected emcees with a long history in the culture. "The Cactus Album" from 1989 is an absolute classic record. In addition, if you look at the executive producer credit for "Illmatic," you will find MC Serch's name. Years before Em had street cred and while the Beasties were still playing up their drunken frat-boy image, 3rd Bass were performing pure hip-hop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2003 I would nominate the following artists. Each one debuted between 1979 and 1990 and had a hit single or LP during that time period. I separated solo artists from their groups if they released solo albums during this time period (Slick Rick, Ice Cube, Kool Moe Dee). I'm sure quite a few people with disagree with some of my selections... Afrika Bambaataa & the Soul Sonic Force Run-D.M.C. Grand Wizard Theodore & the Fantastic Five Fat Boys L.L. Cool J. Whodini Treacherous Three Roxanne Shante Funky 4 +1 Cold Crush Brothers Eazy-E Matronix U.T.F.O. Too $hort Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five Sugarhill Gang Kurtis Blow Boogie Down Productions Beastie Boys Chill Rob G. Rob Base & DJ E Z Rock Chubb Rock King Tee Three Times Dope Positive K Main Source Masta Ace Poor Righteous Teachers Busy Bee Spoonie Gee Fab 5 Freddy Fearless Four Kool Moe Dee Just-Ice Salt-n-Pepa Eric B. & Rakim DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince Public Enemy Schoolly D. MC Shan Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew Stetsasonic Ice-T N.W.A. Slick Rick EPMD Big Daddy Kane Ultramagnetic MCs Jungle Brothers MC Lyte Kool G Rap & DJ Polo De La Soul The D.O.C. Geto Boys 3rd Bass Nice & Smooth Biz Markie Queen Latifah Special Ed Heavy D & the Boyz Ice Cube Brand Nubian A Tribe Called Quest Gang Starr Digital Underground Compton's Most Wanted X-Clan In a genre with nearly twenty-five years of history, I think artists that debuted in the mid-to-late 90's do not yet qualify for Hall of Fame status. I suppose Jay-Z could be included based on his contribution to 1990's "The Originators" single on EMI and, technically, 2Pac was a B-Team member of Digital Underground when "This is an EP Release" dropped. Just because they were old school don't make'm all good though. That list could loose a name or eight. Whoa, Positive K of "I gotta a Man" fame a HOF? Stetsonic? I mean they're old school but some these cats on list were just one hit wonders. Suprise you don't have JJ Fad on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
