Guest Sakura Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I know what suplexes are, of course...but what makes a suplex a suplex? Like how is the German the same move as the Verticle?
Guest The Upright Man Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 A suplex is pretty much any throw or lift that sends the feet or body over the head.
Guest Sakura Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 What about like the Rock Bottom? I've heard people call that a suplex, where they just wrong?
Lightning Flik Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 What about like the Rock Bottom? I've heard people call that a suplex, where they just wrong? It's a variation of the suplex that it's based on (Urangi, spelling incorrect of course).
EL DANDY~! Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 Technically, it's a throw that stars with the person on it's feet, and eventually ends with him off his feet in any particular manner.
Corey_Lazarus Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 By that definition, any move where the opponent is lifted is a suplex. I'd stick to the "any move where an opponent's feet go above their head before hitting the mat" definition, with two glaring exceptions: piledriver and powerbomb variations. Although Dace would probably give a reason as to why a piledriver could be a brainbuster variation, but hey...
Lightning Flik Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 Dace would be able to give the detailed explanation. Me, I only call suplexs a suplex if it really does lift the person's feet above their head.
BoboBrazil Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 Random known fact: Suplex is actually French in origin and pronounced sooplay. American announcers have been pronouncing it wrong for years. Gordon Solie was the only announcer who pronounced it properly.
Guest The Real Nosferatu Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I was wondering why Solie pronounced it Soo-Pley on the wrestling classics PPV. Stupid Broadcasters pronouncing it wrong!!
LaParkaYourCar Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 Random known fact: Suplex is actually French in origin and pronounced sooplay. American announcers have been pronouncing it wrong for years. Gordon Solie was the only announcer who pronounced it properly. Well "Sooplay" sounds kinda dumb though. It sounds like one of those fancy ice cream things.
RavishingRickRudo Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 Amateur Wrestlers call it Sooplay too... well, at least Jeff Blatnick did during the UFC PPV's when Severn delivered two german sooplays.
AndrewTS Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 So THAT's why Bradshaw never does sooplays. He's boycotting those damn French things, too. I guess even a German sooplay is too French for him.
Guest deadbeater Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 (edited) Isn't a suplex a head under heels sacrifice throw that does not involve planting a foot on the opponent as a fulcrum? A slam would then be a two-handed throw in which the attacker does not have to fall. Sometimes the attacker falls for extra damge, or extra power, so we get a power slam. All Suplexes are not the same. A German suplex involves thrusting your opponent completely backwards and overhead from a waistlock. A vertical suplex is a relatively new move for pro wrestling, that was adapted from carnival strength acrobats. It demonstrates complete control over a another person. Harley Race, one of the main practicioners, have been known for holding an opponent for one minute vertical. Edited September 13, 2003 by deadbeater
razazteca Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I know what suplexes are, of course...but what makes a suplex a suplex? Like how is the German the same move as the Verticle? A German is just a verticle from the waist position and throwing the opponet backwards.
dubq Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I know what suplexes are, of course...but what makes a suplex a suplex? Like how is the German the same move as the Verticle? A German is just a verticle from the waist position and throwing the opponet backwards. Uh, no it isn't. A German Suplex starts with a waistlock. A vertical suplex starts with a front head/facelock.
dubq Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 What about like the Rock Bottom? I've heard people call that a suplex, where they just wrong? It's a variation of the suplex that it's based on (Urangi, spelling incorrect of course). Correct. Also known as the "Soviet Suplex"...
AlwaysPissedOff Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 I always considered the Rock Bottom/Book End/Uranage(?) more of a slam than a suplex, but then again, I've always seen it listed as a "sambo suplex" in movelists in wrestling video games in the late 90's.
Guest RickyB Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 A Suplex is any move where the Wrestler recieving the move is lifted over the head of the person giving the move. Which is why the Rock Bottom (Front Sambo Suplex) is a Suplex but a Body Slam isn't a Suplex. Then again i've heard a Rock Bottom called a One Arm Slam, the move name isn't too important to be honest in Pro Wrestling, On Arm Slam is the "pro" name for it while Front Sambo Suplex is more of the Amature name for it.
Guest Trivia247 Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 where is the Dace when we need him.
Guest Fook Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 To me, a suplex must have these qualities: - victim's feet must be above his head at one point (which is why a rock bottom isn't a suplex to me) - attacker goes must down with the victim (hence, a powerbomb isn't a suplex because the attacker has the option of staying on his feet) - hurts the back, shoulders, and/or neck
LucharesuFan619 Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 Dace doesn't seem to be here, but I'm about 99% sure that a suplex is the following...any move where the opponent is lifted by his waist. That means that a standard, vertical, German, belly-to-belly, backdrop, side, gutwrench, etc. suplex would all fit the definition. I think I just solved everyone's question....
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 To me, a suplex must have these qualities: - victim's feet must be above his head at one point (which is why a rock bottom isn't a suplex to me) Then what about an exploider. And Shut The Fuck Up Barber, no one cares what you think, or you "solving everyone's question"
LaParkaYourCar Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 Dace doesn't seem to be here, but I'm about 99% sure that a suplex is the following...any move where the opponent is lifted by his waist. That means that a standard, vertical, German, belly-to-belly, backdrop, side, gutwrench, etc. suplex would all fit the definition. I think I just solved everyone's question.... That sounds like a pretty good explanation.
The Czech Republic Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 Dace doesn't seem to be here, but I'm about 99% sure that a suplex is the following...any move where the opponent is lifted by his waist. That means that a standard, vertical, German, belly-to-belly, backdrop, side, gutwrench, etc. suplex would all fit the definition. I think I just solved everyone's question.... What about a Dragon Suplex, where the victim is lifted by his neck? Or the Tiger Suplex, lifted by arms? I always defined suplex as a throw without a release. But my definition would cut out a German release suplex, so I'm wrong too.
Guest Trivia247 Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 Or the Japanese Ocean Cyclone Suplex or the Electric Chair or the Table top or or the Aztec etc heh
The Czech Republic Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 If everyone pronounced it correctly, no doubt that The Goon's finisher would be the Powerplex.
Guest bigdunn20 Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 In amateur wrestling circles, it is even spelled "souplay".
Guest RollingSambos Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 So is a small house divided into two houses actually a "doo-play"?
Guest Eric the Eagle Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 I always thought the definition of a suplex was a throw where all or most of the targets body goes above the head of the person delivering the throw. Of course, this would eliminate the side suplex variation and a few belly to belly's... As for the Rock Bottom/Sanbo suplex... I thought you had to spin for it to be a sanbo? Of course, that could be a case of different meanings in different places...
LucharesuFan619 Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 Or the Japanese Ocean Cyclone Suplex or the Electric Chair or the Table top or or the Aztec etc heh An electric chair isn't really to be considered a suplex. It's more of a slam. You got me w/ the Dragon. The ocean cyclone you kind of lift them by their waist, or at least start out doing so. Tiger - you got me there, too. What's a tabletop suplex?
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