Guest Ray Report post Posted September 25, 2003 (edited) Just curious to see how people rate things. When was the last true **** match in WWE? I have to go all the way back to Steve Austin vs. Chris Benoit - 5/31/01. Unless I've forgotten something big... Yeah, I'm stingy with the ****'s. Edit: On second thought, I might give the big 4 to the No Mercy 02 tag match. Been a while since I watched it though. Meh... Edited September 25, 2003 by Ray Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Benoit/Angle at the rumble is the last one I think was worthy of that, I enjoyed Jericho/Michaels and Angle/Lesnar at WM as well, I guess they break ****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Oh, and I was especially impressed with Haas/Benjamin v Tajiri/Guerrero on Smackdown, just after the faces won the belts. Tremendous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 When you say a minimum of ****, then Angle/Benoit is always the first that springs to mind, wondering how you forgot that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 I can't remember an instance, actually. Last time any match in the WWE/WWF broke even THREE stars was Bret/Owen from Wrestlemania X, I'd guess. BTW, I'd give it ***1/4. ... ... .... Haas/Benjamin v. Filthy Animals, Vengeance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted September 25, 2003 When you say a minimum of ****, then Angle/Benoit is always the first that springs to mind, wondering how you forgot that. The Rumble match is overrated actually. Angle's shoddy selling really annoyed me. ***1/2...maybe 3/4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Vengeance, Eddie vs Benoit. If there's a reason as to why it's not aside from "the end killed it" (which is not true) I've yet to hear it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 When you say a minimum of ****, then Angle/Benoit is always the first that springs to mind, wondering how you forgot that. The Rumble match is overrated actually. Angle's shoddy selling really annoyed me. ***1/2...maybe 3/4 The rumble match owes a lot to crowd heat, that's true, but it was the right match, got Angle over as a strong champion without making Benoit look like his bitch, as was evidenced by The Standing Ovation~! © The last match that came close to ***** in WWE for me was Rock/Austin, X-7, and I don't mind saying that as a stand-alone match, I choose it over Flair/Steamboat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deviant Report post Posted September 25, 2003 I think there have been a lot of ****+ matches in this year alone. Only counting PPVs, I would consider Angle vs Benoit at the Rumble, Y2J vs HBK, Angle vs Lesnar and Booker vs HHH(you heard me!) from Mania and Eddy vs Benoit from Vengeance to all break ****. And that's without me putting any actual thought into it. I'll be as negative as I want about Raw and the bad parts of SD, but I won't dare deny the presence of some damn good matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 25, 2003 There's been **** matches on smackdown - its not impossible to find one. niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 There has not been a **** on Raw in years. The closest match that even should be considered is the HHH vs Flair match. To me and many it was an entertaining match but it was not the PERFECT match. It was one of the few matches that had HHH look good on tv. The another decent match involving the man who holds everyone down was HHH vs Kane in the casket match during the Katie Vick BS. Lately the Molly & Kim vs Trish matches have been the best of Raw and they are barely **1/2 and that is only because of double team moves and Trish's bumps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 **** matches? On my standards, there have been a few this year: Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar at 'Mania Los Guerreros vs Team Angle at Backlash AMW vs XXX Cage Match Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels at 'Mania Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit at Rumble Five four star matches isn't bad, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted September 25, 2003 **** matches? On my standards, there have been a few this year: Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar at 'Mania Los Guerreros vs Team Angle at Backlash AMW vs XXX Cage Match Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels at 'Mania Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit at Rumble Five four star matches isn't bad, is it? Last time WWE had a **** match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 They haven't had a **** match since possibly No Mercy '02, and thats a generous ****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Well...my latest Vengeance review saw me give Filthy Animals/WGTT at Vengeance ****. Match before that that got **** from me? Probably Angle/Benoit, as both matches that were good at WM were ***3/4, and would have gotten **** if Jericho went over and if Brock hit the SSP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 When you say a minimum of ****, then Angle/Benoit is always the first that springs to mind, wondering how you forgot that. Ray has big problems with Angle's selling and the praise Angle gets, I bet he rates the Rumble match at ***1/2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 In that case Ray (regarding Rumble '03), what about their Unforgiven match? Or the 2/3 falls match from Smackdown between Rey/Edge and Angle/Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Here's a better quetion. What's more annoying? The people who look at a *** match and go OMG, best match ever! ***********! I would give it more, but the stupid scale says no! Or the "super smark' who feels the need to give every match he sees the lowest possible score? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted September 25, 2003 I would go with the people that seem to give everything either ***** or -***** and very few in between myself. At least, generally the 'Super Smark' at least has some rationale that they can point to which is always better than 'It entertained me' or 'Big Show was in it' respectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RollingSambos Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Angle vs. Lesnar at SummerSlam was ****, IMO. I am a huge fan of that match, and don't give a damn what the general consesus is, or what people thought of the finish. I loved the finish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Here's a better quetion. What's more annoying? The people who look at a *** match and go OMG, best match ever! ***********! I would give it more, but the stupid scale says no! Or the "super smark' who feels the need to give every match he sees the lowest possible score? I find the people who underrate a match much more infuriating. The last WWF/WWE match to break THREE stars was Bret vs. Owen ? Give me a fucking break. And yeah, the last match I would give **** would be Angle/Lesnar at SummerSlam. Going before that, Eddy/Benoit at Vengeance MAY be ****(even from a Benoit-detractor like myself), and I would definitely give World's Greatest Tag Team vs. Rey/Kidman ****. Awesome, awesome tag match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Taker vs. Angle from Smackdown was pretty darn close. Eddie/Tajiri vs. Team Angle (all of the smackdown matches) was also really good. Benoit/Angle Rumble is also up there. Those are my picks for WWE MOTYC's, and are around ****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RollingSambos Report post Posted September 25, 2003 I agree that the underraters are much more obnoxious. The idea that a match hasn't cleared **** since 1994 in North America is just absurd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Angle/Lesnar from SS was horrible IMO. By "horrible" I mean "painfully adequate". Their WM match was only a lil bit better (hell, I thought Taker vs. Albert/Big Show was better). Rock vs. Austin at Mania was ***1/2, maybe. That's close to **** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 My picks: Benoit vs Angle, Royal Rumble ****1/2 Taker vs Angle, Smackdown ***3/4 Eddy/Tajiri vs Team Angle (Smackdown where Eddy "turned" on Tajiri after they lost) *** 3/4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 The last ****+ match? I would have to say Benoit/Guerrero from Vengeance. Such a beautifully paced match, and the ending didn't ruin the match, despite what some other people might think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 25, 2003 I find it terribly funny people who populate this board who seem to think there almost never is any good wrestling in WWE. So, basically you are discussing something you think sucks? Or are you watching for the skits? niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Who watches the WWE for the wrestling? I watch for the McMahons - they put the FUN in dysfunctional family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted September 25, 2003 Star ratings suck balls. But the last truly funksome match I remember seeing was Benjamin/Haas vs Kidman/Mysterio. Twas much coolness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2003 I have to go with WGTT/Filthy Animals myself. I can't stand underraters either. Can you imagine Roger Ebert giving *** to The Godfather just because it wasn't as good as Citizen Kane? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
