Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Many backstage feel that Rhyno is being buried by Vince McMahon partly due to being an ECW/Paul Heyman creation, much like Rob Van Dam. Many in WWE seem to still be "fighting the war" against WCW and ECW (despite the war obviously being over) and thus sometimes do not push "WCW and ECW talent." Credit: 1wrestling/411 In other news, Rhyno sucks anyways! HEY!! Rhyno literally carried Jerhico to a very good match, had a INCREDIBLE match against the Rock on RAW, and gave the Hardcore division arguably its greatest match. That guy can perform. He just needs to gain some of that weight he lost back so it would be reasonable to see him as a RHINO again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 I have to say that Rhyno can work his ASS off in the ring. When that happens, good things usually happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BifEverchad 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Rhyno CAN work. He's better than 50% of the roster. Vince is a fucktard. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Again, how is this news?* *Not in the sarcastic sense, but in the literal sense. It's bad enough that the half-assed websites like 1Bob have already beaten newspieces like "Vince still hates WCW/ECW talent" into the ground, but they're inventing new stories to try and put a spin on it (while protecting their asses from any heat, since it's only hearsay anyway). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Again, how is this news?* *Not in the sarcastic sense, but in the literal sense. It's bad enough that the half-assed websites like 1Bob have already beaten newspieces like "Vince still hates WCW/ECW talent" into the ground, but they're inventing new stories to try and put a spin on it (while protecting their asses from any heat, since it's only hearsay anyway)? I think everyone misinterpreted my first post as I would LIKE RVD and Rhyno to quit and join NWA TNA. What I mean is, you keep dropping little tidbits about how Vince doesn't like blah and blah, when you are a partial owner of a rival(?) promotion, there could be alterior motives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Vince's shows are in the shits cause he's putting on what he wants to see, and not the viewing public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Rhyno's become that much worse than he was before the neck injury? I didn't even notice... ... The worsening of the WWE in general between his leave and return probably helped that a lot. If anything, it seems to my piss-poor perception that Rhyno is just a little below his pre-injury performance and the WWE style's constantly worsening is mostly to blame for the chinlock-o'rama that was him vs Benoit a while back. WWE style is constricting but NOT castrating. Not in this case. There was no excuse for going back to the chinlock THREE TIMES. If he could "work his ass off", he would have shown it by now. That match with Benoit last June was a perfect opportunity for it. And I doubt GAINING weight is going to make him MORE impressive in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 No wonder A-Train took Rhyno's spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IB2BLACK Report post Posted October 8, 2003 IMO, A Train>Rhyno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 IMO, Everyone > A-Train Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Many backstage feel that Rhyno is being buried by Vince McMahon partly due to being an ECW/Paul Heyman creation, much like Rob Van Dam. Many in WWE seem to still be "fighting the war" against WCW and ECW (despite the war obviously being over) and thus sometimes do not push "WCW and ECW talent." Credit: 1wrestling/411 Seeing as how Vince kept ECW afloat and immediately hired Heyman --- I don't buy the story whatsoever. And I thought the problem with RVD was that he injured people and seemed to not care about it or something. I never heard a word about Vinnie having a problem with RVD because of Heyman. Let's also keep in mind that both 1Bob and Scherer would sire ECW's children, if given the opportunity, so their opinions MIGHT be a little jaded. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Look, at this point I got to take the lesser of the two evils. I'd rather Benoit face A-Train because at least he'll have some decent offense to sell at No Mercy like the reverse full-nelson, Vader splash, over the shoulder backbreaker (I can't believe I'm shilling the guy here), as opposed to a spinebuster, chinlock and the Gore. What's the difference between the US Title tourney match from June and Armageddon 2000 with youknowwho? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Maybe they're hllding Rhyno back because ever since he's come back from injury... he's SUCKED THE MEAT MISSILE. Gone is is his super fun retro jersey airplane spin offense and it has been replaced with chinlocks. Lots and lots of chinlocks... chinlocks everywhere. Add that to the complete loss of acleration that Rhyno used to have (the gore is almost sad now in how tepid he throws it) and you have someone is belongs right where they are in the lower midcard. Gotta agree here. BEFORE the injury, he was one of my faves. I thought he had become REAL good. I've not seen a single stand-out match from the man since. Of course, that didn't hurt HHH's push. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Rhyno was in the ring at WM with Team Angle, the Guerreros, and Chris Benoit. ...The crowd usually was pretty quiet when he was in the ring. He was like the weak link in that group. Talk about blowing it since his injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 This thread is very depressing to me. Rhyno had/still has so much to offer. Even if he's not showing "that fire" he's still a better worker than many of the other guys getting pushes (Orton). He needs to do SOMETHING though, cuz I am starting to believe that I will see Rhyno on TNA real soon. That would be nice and all, but he could fit in so well in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Adrian 3:16 Report post Posted October 10, 2003 Rhyno was in the ring at WM with Team Angle, the Guerreros, and Chris Benoit. ...The crowd usually was pretty quiet when he was in the ring. He was like the weak link in that group. Talk about blowing it since his injury. You think the crowd apathy might have something to do with him being potrayed as a complete pussy since he came back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2003 I have to admitt I'm much less interested in him since his return. He's been booked somewhat poorly, true, but he hasn't exactly offered anything to make me stand up and notice. To one of the above poster's comments, though, I have to say this: I HIGHLY doubt that Rhyno carried Jericho in a match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted October 10, 2003 To one of the above poster's comments, though, I have to say this: I HIGHLY doubt that Rhyno carried Jericho in a match. He surely did. That was the infamous 'Jericho falls off of stuff because he has a concussion' Summerslam (?) match. Rhyno basically slowed everything down to give Jericho a chance to at least moderately recover while not losing the crowd by using unconventional, psychologically sound set ups to the gore like a body scissors. It was also one of the last appearances of the Jericho liontamer kneeling Boston crab. Don't always look at the names involved and assume one guy did all the work its a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JacK Report post Posted October 10, 2003 Vince's shows are in the shits cause he's putting on what he wants to see, and not the viewing public. If I owned a company, I'd put on what I wanted to see too (up to a point), more than a few people would. And also, Rhyno needs to get that whole intense thing going, like when Benoit came back from his neck surgery, I was marking out like mad, it looked like he really was beating the fuck out of whoever he was facing. It was like a whole other level to everyone else on RAW at that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 10, 2003 Rhyno indeed carried Jericho in that match, which was part of Jericho's summer 2001 depression of sorts over losing his spot after his springtime push. He put on some truly lousy performances during that little period, but I think Summerslam was his wakeup call, as the last three months of 2001 featured some of the best work of his career, as he had reinvented his character and busted his ass to get rid of the signature spots and try new things. A motivated Jericho is usually pretty awesome, but when Jericho is dogging it, it gets really, really ugly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted October 12, 2003 (edited) If Vince is so down on ECW and WCW, he must be really pissed off about Lita, Jazz, Jacqueline, Molly, Stacy, and Torrie. Edited October 12, 2003 by deadbeater Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2003 If Vince is so down on ECW and WCW, he must be really pissed off about Lita, Jazz, Jacqueline, Molly, Stacy, and Torrie. They don't count because he wants to have sex with all of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
