Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 (edited) A little early feedback before my actual post on it... GREAT. FUCKING. SHOW. Major thanks to all involved in the Title Wave match, I think we stole the show and you should all be proud. Also happy to see the newcomers getting involved so fast. Congrats to Dam, Sturgis and Papacita for fitting in so nicely. For those unfamiliar, here's how we rate: ::TRANSMISSION INTERRUPTION... THIS IS CABOOSE! TAKING OVER THIS THREAD! Rate in the old 1-10 way or I will hunt you down and kill you! ...::THE PRECEDING ANNOUNCEMENT WAS PAID FOR BY CABOOSE:: Edited October 25, 2003 by caboose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 I'll do ratings a little later, but here's my general thoughts: Wow. Just awesome. Great matches, great promos, great build for the PPV. Fanstastic main event. Hey, where's my name in the credits? I mostly wrote the damn promo. Justice must be served! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 *is waiting for Ratings* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 I'll give my ratings later (when I have time), but I'd like to give an extra special thanks to Spike and Phoenix for doing two great matches. Spike, that was a brilliant return by Brock, and Phoenix, you know I loved that X match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 lol. I'll wait a little bit before I put up my ratings too. I really liked this week's show, especially the AJ/Sly match and the main event. I think the show built well towards the PPV. Great job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 Zack Malibu Ratings-O-Rama 1)Entertainment-5 all the way. I was really pleased with the efforts of the newbies, as well as everyone doing their part to further their feuds, and make the Title Wave match mean something in the grand scheme of things. If this were on TV, I'd have taped it and snapped that little tab off the tape to make sure it never got erased. 2)Writing-4, for it being above average, but not perfect. This is just because we have some newcomers trying to adjust to our style, and they're unsure how to format/space things out. It's not really a problem per say, as I do my best to edit things out while formatting before the show goes up, but there are some instances where we could have used more description of atmosphere, etc. 3)Presentation-5. We only had three matchups, but given the length of Title Wave and the fact that six stars were involved in it, that was fine for this show. Excellent skits to build to that match (Calvin/Crystal, the prematch promo's and the CWM confrontation with Moysey). AJ Flaire's character got off to a great start after being cheap-shotted by Sly Somers, Brock Ausstin made a big return, and we had several debuts including an opening segment that kicked off Damaramu's angle with a bang. So you had an intro/attack to hype the crowd up, nice continuity from last week with Axel choosing Panther's opponent, buildup to their match at the PPV, Brock Ausstin's return, AJ's intro segment to cement him as a face, a strong debut match...phew, I'm out of breath from rambling. I think everything hit home. 4)Realism-this is the rating I hate, because honestly, look at what it says: "Did the fans react the way you wanted them to?"...OF COURSE THEY DID, WE WRITE OUT OWN SEGMENTS? That said, as far as "realism" goes, I'd give this a 4, simply because let's face it, it's fantasy. Who looks for realism in fantasy. If we want highspots galore, go for it. You write what you want to write, and I can honestly say that no one here has a self-serving agenda. Sly wrote his match with AJ, and put him over like a million bucks. Panther still looked strong against Brock Ausstin, and that was Brock coming back after a long hiatus against a newcomer. Title Wave had numerous near falls, close calls, and train wrecks, but that's a way of life when it comes to a match of that caliber. Again, I'm not one in favor of a "realism" category, but what we did was above expectation. The show was one of our best efforts to date, and a milestone in the show's run. I'd give it a thumbs up over last week's, simply because the effort was there from everyone. Northstar, Ragdoll and myself worked our asses off on Title Wave, and then you've got guys like Sturgis who haven't been here a week, and they're sending in promo's right off the bat. I was really glad to see that kind of motivation. So... E5, W4, P5, R4 + 1 (X Factor)=Overall rating of 19 from myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony149 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 I'll go ahead and fire the first (rating) shot. Entertainment = 4. Writing = no vote. Like I said in the IZ rating thread, I don't read enough of the matches to give a legit rating. Although the promos were well written. Presentation = 2. Sorry guys, but if I was hard on IZ for a mix match of formats, then hD! has to get a lower rating then them. Since I mostly read the commentary, I have a hard time reading -- Cole: World Without End is this Sunday on Pay-Per-View! Order it now! Everything is too stuffy. Realism = no vote. Read what I said in Writing. X-Factor = better than last week's show. Another week passes, and another week were both shows were on. Even though I didn't read all of the "Title Wave" match, I thought it was very innovative - especially the name. That would of worked well for Beach Brawl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 Presentation = 2. Sorry guys, but if I was hard on IZ for a mix match of formats, then hD! has to get a lower rating then them. Since I mostly read the commentary, I have a hard time reading -- Cole: World Without End is this Sunday on Pay-Per-View! Order it now! Even though I didn't read all of the "Title Wave" match, I thought it was very innovative - especially the name. That would of worked well for Beach Brawl. Curse you and your favoritism for the "script format" style of commentary. Nitpicker . I can see where you're coming from though. Personally, it doesn't matter to me how the commentary looks since I read the show through twice (once when I format, once after I post it, and that means I read it at LEAST two times) but I know how some people find your way (aka the PPV way) easier to read. Onto the next portion that I quoted from you, thanks for the compliments on the match. The match was a combo of a few of us thinking of something original to do, and Northstar once said to me he had the idea of the heel champions pairing up on an episode. Between his suggestion and my wheels turning, we came up with Title Wave. I think it was a success, and I'm going to incorporate it as a HeldDOWN~! creation, busted out a few times a year, a la the Elimination Chamber on the RAW brand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 For any further rating, do not worry about the Realism category. It's been decided that we really shouldn't have that as a factor in the ratings system. So since IZ already used it this week, we'll be fair and use it this week only. After today, it's a moot point, so do not worry about it. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony149 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 Curse you and your favoritism for the "script format" style of commentary. Nitpicker . I can see where you're coming from though. Personally, it doesn't matter to me how the commentary looks since I read the show through twice (once when I format, once after I post it, and that means I read it at LEAST two times) but I know how some people find your way (aka the PPV way) easier to read. Hey baby, when I'm crankin' out movies in HOLLYwoooood, I'll be sure to remember you and the little people who question my methods. I'm the type of person who likes to get things done fast, and I believe the format I use for the PPVs gets that done. I should, however, spend more time reading the hD! commentary instead of going the way of The Flash and leaving honnies in the dust. One thing it does though, is give both brands a different look. And as our fallen hero D-D-PPPP used to say, "that's not a bad thing, that's...a good thing!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 *is waiting for Ratings* Here I am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 *is waiting for Ratings* Here I am. He meant good ones. Not the kind that could get beaten out by The Mullets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 That was an exceedingly unkind thing for you to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patty O'Green 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 I miss the old ratings system. Zack and Ragdoll did a great job with the main event. I just did the commentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 I miss the old ratings system. Zack and Ragdoll did a great job with the main event. I just did the commentary. I miss it too, heh. And whether it was commentary or action, you did more than your share and deserve equal credit. Bask in your glory! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 Ok, I'll throw mine in there. 1) Entertainment-5. Pretty much what I said earlier. I really liked the way the show turned out. 2) Writing- I'll say 5 here too. Maybe it's because I'm new and I'm not totally sure what kinda matches you guys usually put out, but the matches really impressed me this week. 3) Presentation-I'm leaning slightly towards 4, but I'll give this one a 3...if only because I don't wanna seem overly enthusiastic with my ratings. Things were layed out pretty well...nothing really seemed out of place, but at the same time, I'll say that nothing in regard to presentation really impressed me *dodges beltshot*. I'd say that 3 is about right here. 4) Realism-4. Good, but not mind-blowing. X-Factor: I'd definitely say it was better than last week's show. So...let's see... E5, W5, P3, R4 + 1X= ...um...*counts on fingers*...um...er...AH HA! 18~! There you go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zoidberg 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 nobody give me any credit for the Title Wave match...i did nothing... it was all Zachariah and No'star. THEY deserve the attention and admiration. Fuck this new rating system...too complicated. I give the show a fuckin ten and you like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 This new ratings system (which admittedly, I am not a huge fan of either) will appear for the first and last time in this very thread. From now on, feedback will not be the poll, but it will have you state your rating (like what Rags did above) and then you'll tell us why you gave it that. As for not giving you credit, you did several sequences, and while you didn't get to write as much as you wanted to, you still wrote. So you're credited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Thank fucking god! It was starting to hurt my little brain trying to figure out a way to compile the new rating system. Long live 1-10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Realism should be replaced with Continuation (or Continuity) and be more "does this storyline counteract what has been been set so far". Does it makes sense for Brock Ausstin to be able to dominate his opponent, even though he's coming back from being on vacation. Stuff like that. I think that's what it should be. Just more of the "Common Sense" stuff for lack of a better term (in case people wanna bitch about the use of Continuation or that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Does it makes sense for Brock Ausstin to be able to dominate his opponent, even though he's coming back from being on vacation. You have a problem with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Does it makes sense for Brock Ausstin to be able to dominate his opponent, even though he's coming back from being on vacation. You have a problem with that? I think he was just making an example as to what you'd ask yourself when judging continuity in shows... Even though we all know that PANTHER WAS SCREWED, DAMN IT!!!!!!! SCREWED!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Three two one, that show was the bomb. VERY solid 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 I enjoyed the show a lot. I'll go 8. *doesn't feel like making paragraph upon paragraph of different categories* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
