If TuPac and Biggie were still alive...

[Mole 0]

This is something I just thought of a few minutes ago.

 

I really don't know if rap, even music, would be the same. I think they would be on top of the charts, critics love and fans love. They would still be dominating it all.

[Nighthawk 0]

Biggie would have died of a heart attack.

The Pacster would have gotten into a battle with Eminem, lost, and been disgraced.

[NoCalMike 0]

Ermm no, if Tupac was still alive, none of these current rappers would even dare get into a battle with him. Considering 90% want to be him and emulate him or put his photos in all of their videos.

[1234-5678 0]

I doubt Em would have ever wanted to battle Pac. They probably would have made the greatest rap album ever together.

[Nighthawk 0]

Considering 90% want to be him and emulate him or put his photos in all of their videos.

Much of that is because he died though. I was thinking Em cause of his association with Dre, seems to me Pac would have eventually feuded with his old associates.

[Mole 0]

I doubt Em would have ever wanted to battle Pac. They probably would have made the greatest rap album ever together.

I second that. I think they would of done an alblum together, and it would of been insane.

[Nighthawk 0]

For real though, he probably would have focused more on acting than rapping. That seemed to be the path he was taking.

[Guest Choken One]

Yes. I believe he was headed the Will Smith direction if anything.

 

He likely would have cleaned up his image a little and people would have accused him of being a sell out.

 

Biggie would have stayed active in the game but become a background player as he would have gotten tired of the game and would have done most stuff behind the scenes like Producing and stuff.

 

Eminem likely would never got a big start because if Pac was around, because when Eminem arrived, Rap was stuck in a stagnat place as Rap was still reeling from the lost of Pac and Biggie. While there were still great rappers out there, aside from Snoop, Will and Jay-Z none of them were really Mainstream.

 

Eminem was something fresh and something that changed the scene.

[Guest TheArchiteck]

Rap would be the same.

They didn't CONTROL the entire hip-hop community.

Underground artists would still be same....and still be slept on.

By this time they would have been close to out the game, spotlight or whatever you want to call it.

They reached their prime before their deaths.

[razazteca 0]

Tupac would be what Snoop Dog is now, a crossover pop icon.

[Mole 0]

Except TuPac wouldn't suck like Snoop does now.

[Papacita 0]

Considering that a lot of that bling bling rap came from Bad Boy, yeah, rap would pretty much be the same.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Yes. Rap would still suck.

[Guest Doyo]

Both would be held in a lot less regard and be a lot less known than they are now.

It wasn't until after they died that the masses came out of the woodwork praising them.

Pac would be like Ice T and Ice Cube and mostly concentrate on acting with an occasional

album. He would probably have had less albums released than he has now, which is strange.

 

Biggie would probably have had a career similar to Jay Z or Nas, with some good stuff here

and there, but nothing quite as good as their debuts.

 

They both died when they were at the top of their skill level and it is foolish to think that they

would have released great album after great album. Most of the top all time rappers, like Snoop,

Chuck D, KRS One, Ice Cube, Ice T, Wu Tang guys, Rakim or whoever - compare the second half of

their career to their earlier stuff. Look at Ice Cube's stuff with NWA and then his first 2 solo

albums and how far superior it is to most anything he released since. After The Chronic and his

solo debut, Snoop was way more popular than Biggie or Pac ever were until they died. Imagine if

Snoop had died then and not Pac. Snoop wouldn't have been able to release a bunch of mediocre

albums and maybe Pac would have. All the teenagers would have Snoop posters on their walls

now instead of Pac and they would care about Pac about as much as they care about Ice T.

 

Rap wouldn't be as popular as it is if Pac and Biggie hadn't died. Their deaths and all the publicity

after it brought a whole bunch of new fans into the genre.

[cynicalprofit 0]

He likely would have cleaned up his image a little and people would have accused him of being a sell out.

He would have never gotten over being a convicted rapist. I think he was convicted...either way, that stigma would always haunt it him, its just not mentioned to much because he's all dead and stuff now.

 

Biggie probably would have retired by now, adn pac would still be Pac, or dead....he said it himself, live by the gun die by the gun and he never stopped living by it. If it wasnt then it would have been later, either way, bullet would kill him.

[Guest Flyboy]

Yes. Rap would still suck.

I hate ignorant people.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Yes. Rap would still suck.

I hate ignorant people.

Children these days need to learn to culture themselves.

 

I don't like The Beatles, but if I walked into a thread about what music would be like if John Lennon lived and said "music would still suck", I'd be castrated.

 

Not being an avid listener is one thing, but to say a whole genre of music sucks is highly ignorant.

[Nighthawk 0]

Country sucks. Yeah, I said it.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Country sucks. Yeah, I said it.

Not a fan either. That might be the one genre we could get away with saying sucks. That and that new wave shit by people like Enya.

[Guest Doyo]

Not a fan either. That might be the one genre we could get away with saying sucks. That and that new wave shit by people like Enya.

 

Hey, I like stuff like Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings and some of Enya's

songs. You mean "new age", not "new wave." Enya isn't something you are going to

rock out to when driving, but she is talented at creating certain moods, such as for movie

soundtracks.

[Slayer 0]

Ironically enough, whenever I ask most kids I know about what genres they like, country and rap are always excluded

 

"I like everything... except country and rap"

[Guest Choken One]

No one admits to liking Country yet the records sales CLEARLY indicates people do like it.

 

Kinda like Creed for Rock...Or Yanni or Bolton...

 

People never admit they like them but they seem to sell over 8 million copies of everything they do.

[ant_7000 0]

If 2pac and Big was still alive:

 

Pac would've eventually have a fallin out with Suge, since Pac was leaving Death Row because Suge wasn't paying him. Pac would probably go further into acting like Cube is doing now.

 

Biggie: I don't know if he still would be rapping or close to retiring, I think he would be still be a big name and Bad Boy wouldn't be in this position now.

[MrRant 0]

Country sucks. Yeah, I said it.

New country sucks. I can listen to old school country because that is what my grandparents listen to all the time.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Let me tell you, Polish Techno sucks and nobody should ever like it. Download some if you don't believe me, but take into consideration...you were warned

[Damaramu 0]

I hear all the time about how influential Pac is and all of this and I see what he did do while he was alive and it sort of rings true.

However I do believe he is where he is because he died.

Now not being a big rap fan...I don't know what Biggie did while he was alive that was so revolutionary. What is the deal with him?

Or is it just that he was killed and Puffy went on about it that makes him what he is? What did he do?

[ant_7000 0]

I don't know what Biggie did while he was alive that was so revolutionary. What is the deal with him?

Or is it just that he was killed and Puffy went on about it that makes him what he is? What did he do?

Biggie didn't have a lot of uplifting songs or fed off his emotions to go into his music like Pac had, But Big had skills of a true emcee. Eventhough Biggie's subject matter was mostly about Drugs, money, fast living etc, he had all the essentials (sp?) or elements that rap to be a successful emcee has: Story telling, word play, flow/delivery, versatility,(sp?) and Punchlines, thats why some people and myself consider him G.O.A.T.

[King Kamala 0]

Techno scat sucks. That's right if Scatman John had lived, Techno Scat would still suck.

 

 

 

*runs away from mob of furious techno scat fans*

[1234-5678 0]

I don't know what Biggie did while he was alive that was so revolutionary. What is the deal with him?

Here's my opinion.........Biggie made it ok for the money/drug dealing obsessed rhymes to come about (ala Jay-Z). Pac made it ok for the hip hop actually dealing with real human emotions to come about (ala Eminem).

 

Personally, I like Pac's style much better, but I seem to be in the minority. Most of the kids 14-19 I know seem to think Jay-Z is the end all be all of hip hop, shit, almost of life. He teaches to sell drugs and to treat girls like shit to get big. And most of these boys are following it. Oh well.

[Guest Doyo]

Here's my opinion.........Biggie made it ok for the money/drug dealing obsessed rhymes to come about (ala Jay-Z). Pac made it ok for the hip hop actually dealing with real human emotions to come about (ala Eminem).

 

both had been done years before