MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2004 The COOLEST name ever is Coco Crisp. I know the spelling isn't exactly the same, but you get the idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2004 ESPN.com Jayson Stark says in his latest column that Pudge's three options are Tigers, go back to Marlins after May 1, retire. And a very real scenario is sign with a club just to get traded back to the Marlins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2004 ESPN.com Jayson Stark says in his latest column that Pudge's three options are Tigers, go back to Marlins after May 1, retire. And a very real scenario is sign with a club just to get traded back to the Marlins. Isn't there a certain date up until which a newly signed free agent can't be traded (I believe June 1 of the upcoming season)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2004 And a very real scenario is sign with a club just to get traded back to the Marlins. I read this, too. Certainly an interesting scenario, though somehow I doubt it'd be allowed under the current rules. Personally, I hope Pudge gets stuck with the Tigers. I hope he enjoys his 90+ loss seasons, and I hope he never sniffs the playoffs again. His refusing the Marlins' very reasonable offer to come back and defend the title is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2004 The COOLEST name ever is Coco Crisp. I know the spelling isn't exactly the same, but you get the idea. And Milton Bradley. Now there's someone whose nickname should be "The Game." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 19, 2004 The Dodgers are nuts for giving Beltre a $5 Million contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2004 I read somewhere that Kaz Sasaki quit the Mariners... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Yep, ESPN reported Kaz quit for family reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Yeah: http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?cont...ntentId=2062936 Mariners closer Kaz Sasaki will not return to the team next season, choosing to remain with his wife and two children in Japan, according to his agent, Tony Attanasio. Sasaki, signed through 2004 with a club option for '05, will sacrifice the remaining $9.5 million on his contract. He may pitch in Japan next season, Attanasio says, but probably will not play in the United States again. "I've seen guys walk away from contracts. I've never seen a guy walk away from this kind of money," Attanasio says. "But if there ever was a good reason to do it, this is it." Sasaki's family lived with him his first two seasons in Seattle, with his children attending U.S. schools. But they returned to Japan last season, and the strain on the pitcher was enormous, Attanasio says. The Mariners are expected to place Sasaki on waivers to begin the formal process of terminating his contract. Sasaki, 36, would refuse to join any team that claimed him, forfeiting his remaining salary. "We have been informed by his agent that Kaz has some personal family issues in Japan," Mariners spokesman Tim Hevly says. "He may wish to remain there next year. We're going to be as cooperative as we can be going forward with him." The Mariners are not without potential replacements for Sasaki — they recently signed former Twins closer Eddie Guardado as a free agent, and Shigetoshi Hasegawa converted 16 of 17 opportunities when Sasaki was injured last season. Another late-inning candidate, Rafael Soriano, was 3-0 with a 1.53 ERA and one save last season. The sudden availability of Sasaki's $9.5 million could give the Mariners a chance to bid on either of the two most prominent free agents still available, pitcher Greg Maddux and catcher Ivan Rodriguez. Maddux is thought to prefer a west-coast team, and Rodriguez would be an upgrade over Dan Wilson and Ben Davis. The Mariners also could explore trades for two slugging outfielders, the Astros' Richard Hidalgo and White Sox's Magglio Ordonez. Mariners should be happy. They got alot of money to spend now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Tis odd... but if he truly thinks that is best than more power to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Outside of Pudge, there's not much less they can do with $9.5 Million, unless they take salary in trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 I just don't want to know what the GM will do with the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 20, 2004 They should sign Pudge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Shut up you. You'll give him ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 They could do worse than signing Pudge, honestly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 I can almost guarentee that the Mariners won't match the Tigers offer even though there situation at catcher is just dreadful right now and Pudge would be the type of signing that could make their offseason look not so bad. The Mariners aren't known for making dynamic moves like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 20, 2004 You know what the Mariners will do with that $9.5 mill? They'll pocket it unless they're in contention at the All-Star break and willing to make a trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 20, 2004 They could do worse than signing Pudge, honestly. Well, he already forced Pinero back to the pen. Can't match that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Did they? I have to see a quote on that, because if you're referring to Jarvis, I can't see him making the rotation outright, without even a spring training battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Did they? I have to see a quote on that, because if you're referring to Jarvis, I can't see him making the rotation outright, without even a spring training battle. My bad. I meant Rafael Soriano. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Soriano I can see. He might be better than Pineiro actually. But as far as the Mariners go, having six quality starting pitchers is the one thing they DO have going for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Soriano didn't make a start last year in the majors so he's pretty much entrenched in the bullpen for now unless they finally trade Freddy Garcia. They could try him at closer because I don't think they can put Guardado there since they have no other lefty relievers at the moment. They'll probably end up going with Hasagawa though since he filled in for Sasaki primarily last year. Actually I just figured out who Bavasi will probably waste the money on...Ugueth Urbina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Actually I just figured out who Bavasi will probably waste the money on...Ugueth Urbina. Considering the M's already have Guardado (who I'm presuming will be the closer) and Hasegawa (who was 16-17 in saves last year, and thus makes a great fill-in and setup man), I don't see why they need Urbina. They could do far worse for bullpen help, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 The Dodgers are nuts for giving Beltre a $5 Million contract. Agreed. No one else was going to offer him that much money. His OPS is paltry for his position and has shown no signs of appreciably increasing. I think the Dodgers are still wrapped up in the potential Beltre showed when he debuted in the majors at age 6, or however old he was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Actually I just figured out who Bavasi will probably waste the money on...Ugueth Urbina. Considering the M's already have Guardado (who I'm presuming will be the closer) and Hasegawa (who was 16-17 in saves last year, and thus makes a great fill-in and setup man), I don't see why they need Urbina. They could do far worse for bullpen help, though. Well its meant to be tougne in cheek because there is never any logic to moves Bavasi makes. Anyways like I pointed out in the previous post Guardado is the only lefty they have in their bullpen so I'd assume he won't be the closer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Mariners agree to terms with Pineiro. SEATTLE -- The Seattle Mariners agreed to terms Monday with right-hander Joel Pineiro, signing one of the team's workhorses to a three-year contract worth $14.5 million. The 25-year-old Pineiro set career highs with 211 2-3 innings, 151 strikeouts, 32 starts and 16 wins in 2003. He went 16-11 with a 3.78 ERA, throwing two shutouts. The deal, expected to be announced this week, includes a $1.5 million signing bonus. Pineiro will earn $2.5 million next season, with terms escalating in the final two years of the contract. Pineiro had a career-long eight-game winning streak from June 16 to July 31, which included 19 2-3 scoreless innings from July 21-31. He also had a five-game losing streak when the Mariners slumped in his five August starts. Seattle was 19-13 in his 32 starts, winning three of his five no-decisions. In three major league seasons, Pineiro has a 37-20 record and 3.38 ERA. Mariners manager Bob Melvin has said the organization expects big things from Pineiro, and he could be poised for a breakthrough season in 2004. When it's on, his breaking ball is one of the best in the game, and Pineiro also throws effectively with his fastball, slider and changeup. Pineiro was part of an outstanding Mariners rotation that used only five starters all season in 2003, joining Freddy Garcia, Jamie Moyer, Gil Meche and Ryan Franklin. All but Meche threw at least 200 innings. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1713128 Seattle Agrees to Terms with Meche SEATTLE -- A day after agreeing to a $14.5 million, three-year contract with Joel Pineiro, the Seattle Mariners agreed to a $1.95 million, one-year contract with Gil Meche. Both right-handers were part of a Seattle rotation that featured only five pitchers all season, matching a major league record. The 25-year-old Meche returned to the majors last season after a two-year absence. He spent 2001 and 2002 on rehabilitation and in the minors after two surgeries to repair his right shoulder. He was 15-13 with a 4.59 ERA last year, setting career highs in wins (15), innings pitched (186 1-3), strikeouts (130) and starts (32). Meche became the first pitcher since Whitey Ford in 1953 to win 15 games after missing the two previous seasons. "Gil made terrific strides last season," Seattle GM Bill Bavasi said. "Coming off two years of injuries, he really overachieved by making every start. I'm eager to see him coming off a fully healthy winter." The 25-year-old Pineiro set career highs with 211 2/3 innings, 151 strikeouts, 32 starts and 16 wins in 2003. He went 16-11 with a 3.78 ERA, throwing two shutouts. Pineiro had a career-long eight-game winning streak from June 16 to July 31, which included 19 2/3 scoreless innings from July 21-31. He also had a five-game losing streak when the Mariners slumped in his five August starts. Seattle was 19-13 in his 32 starts, winning three of his five no-decisions. In three major league seasons, Pineiro has a 37-20 record and 3.38 ERA. Mariners manager Bob Melvin has said the organization expects big things from Pineiro, and he could be poised for a breakthrough season in 2004. "We believe he is already among the top-tier starters in the game, and poised to join a truly elite group," Bavasi said. "He has electric stuff but it's his makeup that makes Joel truly special." When it's on, his breaking ball is one of the best in the game, and Pineiro also throws effectively with his fastball, slider and changeup. Pineiro gets a $1.5 million signing bonus and $2.5 million next season. Besides Meche and Pineiro, the other members of Seattle's rotation last season were Freddy Garcia, Jamie Moyer and Ryan Franklin. All but Meche threw at least 200 innings. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1713645 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2004 Actually I just figured out who Bavasi will probably waste the money on...Ugueth Urbina. Considering the M's already have Guardado (who I'm presuming will be the closer) and Hasegawa (who was 16-17 in saves last year, and thus makes a great fill-in and setup man), I don't see why they need Urbina. They could do far worse for bullpen help, though. I'm still hoping Urbina's price drops and the Twins sign him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2004 Rafael Soriano started ten games in Tacoma last season. He's only in the bullpen because the rotation is full. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Its the end of an area, as 240 year veteran Jesse Orosco has decided to call it a career. Orosco pitched 12,950 games in a career which included stints with the New York Gothams, Brooklyn Superbas, Cleveland Spiders, Milwaukee Braves, Baltimore Terrapins, St. Louis Browns, San Diego Padres, New York Highlanders, and a brief stint with the Cincinnati Kelly Killers, before finally retiring after finishing the season with the Minnesota Twins. Ironically, the Twins were the team which first drafted Orosco, back in 1878. Orosco celebrated his new found retirement by immediately signing a contract to pitch this season for the Houston Astros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Its the end of an area, as 240 year veteran Jesse Orosco has decided to call it a career. Orosco pitched 12,950 games in a career which included stints with the New York Gothams, Brooklyn Superbas, Cleveland Spiders, Milwaukee Braves, Baltimore Terrapins, St. Louis Browns, San Diego Padres, New York Highlanders, and a brief stint with the Cincinnati Kelly Killers, before finally retiring after finishing the season with the Minnesota Twins. Ironically, the Twins were the team which first drafted Orosco, back in 1878. Orosco celebrated his new found retirement by immediately signing a contract to pitch this season for the Houston Astros. You forgot the New York Mets.....that's right, the 1883 New York Metropolitans of the American Association. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
