ant_7000 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 ant I never said racism was totally dead, I said it was PRACTICALLY dead. I've been called nigger a couple of times in my face, are you sure it wasn't a black person saying it I gotta agree with KKK white trash is fucking difficult to deal with. Uh, let me break this down to you blacks usually say nigga as endearment type of way, what this white guy called me a nigger and I was just walking down the street, so I know differences while your trying be funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 16, 2003 Honest question: Did you ever think about not serving black people at all because of this? Just because of those customers whom you thought were stupid? I never refused to serve anybody. None of us refused to serve anybody. We didn't WANT to serve them, but we did it. Blithering idiot. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 16, 2003 So much for civility. You don't deserve it. Quivering bowl of jello? LAME. Why use the primo material on you? See, this is why I don't bother insulting people over the internet. And you are why I don't mind insulting people over the internet. Because many of them have the intellectual capacity of a not-too-bright rock. It's useless and it's not like it's worthwhile. If you think about it, you don't hurt my feelings. Congrats be to you. So the only two options left are: a) You make yourself feel better or b) You try to impress people that you'll never even meet with your "wit". Hopefully you at least accomplished the former. Nah, just stating the truth. It isn't always easy. Coward and an idiot? Yeah, that fits me to a *T* Acceptance is the first step in fixing a problem. Wait, wait, wait. You talk about how black people are a "pain in the BUTT" and how they "tip poorly", yet *I* am the one who has to get out in the real world? My God that's some terrible logic. Seeing as how you apparently never served, yes. "Listen son. You seem to NOT judge someone based on the colour of their skin. Get out in the real world and see how wrong you are." By the way, I'd eat a bullet if I refused to serve people of my own race based on...well, nothing. Oh, sorry, please refer me to ANY post where I said I REFUSED to serve them. I din't WANT to --- nor did blacks --- but we DID do it. Blithering idiot. "Your seldom-made appearances only serve to disprove the notion of 'absence makes the heart grow fonder' " This has no relevance, but dude, how much of a nerd are you? I suppose I'm almost approaching your level --- but that is a pretty high standard you set there. Bottom line: You justified not serving blacks in restaurant. That's just...wrong. Actually, I didn't --- but I'm not in the mood to post an entirely monosyllabic post where you might be able to follow along. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 16, 2003 On the Judge and the blackface issue is racist no doubt. LOL at people who think racism doesn't exist, I've been called nigger a couple of times in my face, i've been followed and searched after leaving stores before. Speaking as somebody who has done security, that depends LARGELY on what you're wearing and how you're acting. By and large, security guys don't get paid enough to just sit there and harrass. It's not exactly something any of us enjoyed doing. I'd follow blacks OR whites who, in my opinion, were acting oddly or dressed inappropriately (i.e wearing a thick jacket in the middle of the summer). I work at Bass Pro: Outdoor World which is a Hunting, Fishing, and Camping store and in one of public bathroom stalls theres kkk, a swatiska(sp?), and Niggers are filthy carved on wall, and some you think that racism is dead? And the people that wrote that have what impact on your life? Do you think WHITES like seeing swastikas or "kkk" anywhere? WE don't trust them, either. LoL. To the waiters maybe your not giving good service thats why your not getting good tips thought of that. Me personally im a good tipper, but you wouldn't know that because if I showed up with my group friends you probably would make assumptions and give me half ass service and me giving you a shity tip. Nope. When I served, I always gave good service, no matter what. For me, it was a personal pride thing. I'll never intentionally give bad service. Blacks just tend to be horrid tippers. I do not understand why. Maybe not many of them waited tables themselves. I cannot explain it, but it is a definite thing they're known for. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 I think certain people here need to admit they hate white people and others need to admit they hate black people so we can move the fuck on. Stop walking on eggshells. I've seen too much blatant racism in this and other threads from both sides for anyone to be taken seriosuly. And THIS is supposed to be the bastion of intelligent conversation? Okay. And LMAO at DH for admitting to be a coward. Way to go boy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 So much for civility. You don't deserve it. Quivering bowl of jello? LAME. Why use the primo material on you? See, this is why I don't bother insulting people over the internet. And you are why I don't mind insulting people over the internet. Because many of them have the intellectual capacity of a not-too-bright rock. It's useless and it's not like it's worthwhile. If you think about it, you don't hurt my feelings. Congrats be to you. So the only two options left are: a) You make yourself feel better or b) You try to impress people that you'll never even meet with your "wit". Hopefully you at least accomplished the former. Nah, just stating the truth. It isn't always easy. Coward and an idiot? Yeah, that fits me to a *T* Acceptance is the first step in fixing a problem. Wait, wait, wait. You talk about how black people are a "pain in the BUTT" and how they "tip poorly", yet *I* am the one who has to get out in the real world? My God that's some terrible logic. Seeing as how you apparently never served, yes. "Listen son. You seem to NOT judge someone based on the colour of their skin. Get out in the real world and see how wrong you are." By the way, I'd eat a bullet if I refused to serve people of my own race based on...well, nothing. Oh, sorry, please refer me to ANY post where I said I REFUSED to serve them. I din't WANT to --- nor did blacks --- but we DID do it. Blithering idiot. "Your seldom-made appearances only serve to disprove the notion of 'absence makes the heart grow fonder' " This has no relevance, but dude, how much of a nerd are you? I suppose I'm almost approaching your level --- but that is a pretty high standard you set there. Bottom line: You justified not serving blacks in restaurant. That's just...wrong. Actually, I didn't --- but I'm not in the mood to post an entirely monosyllabic post where you might be able to follow along. -=Mike "Primo" material? That's a good excuse. I'll say this much; I had the opportunity to get a job as a server, but turned it down in favour of getting a *real* job. A friend of mine was working there, and had never told me about any problems he has had with blacks, or has never said that they tip poorly. You claimed that "black people are a pain in the BUTT" and that they were "lousy tippers". I don't know, seems pretty offensive and stupid to me. I have the intelligent capacity of a "not-too-bright" rock? As opposed to a "bright" rock? Seriously, shut up. Just shut up. Oh I'm sorry, refused is the wrong word. You seemed to single out black people, especially with the comments I used before. Of course there are stupid black people, just like there are stupid white people, stupid asians, etc. I'm sure white trash are stupid customers too, so does that mean that "White people are a pain in the BUTT"? See, if I were to make a blanket statement like "White people are a pain in the BUTT" (pain in the BUTT?), than everyone would jump on me for being racist. Rightfully so. Blithering idiot? Okay. Don't deserve civility? Did I "lose" that "right" somewhere? The nerd comment is essentially "I know you are but what am I". Right up there with your "rock" joke. Just out of curiousity, how old were you when you worked in the restaurant, and what do you do for a living now? EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to add that Brian is perfectly right. When all the white people that actually use these stereotypes start to affect my life, than it pisses me off and forces me to change in order to deal with it in a calm sort of way. Of course, I don't ask for sympathy nor do I ask for someone else to care, but when I see others that feel that racism is actually working in the opposite way, I really tend to wonder where they came up with this sort of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 I just find it hilarious that so many "adults" around here have the same range of debating skills as a class of fourth graders. Whatever logical points they do have are negated by curses and flames. Also, it's funny to see people making judgements on people with lifestyles they know nothing about. Reading statistics off of an internet site or magazine will only get you so far, as will sitting on your ass and bad mouthing the establishment while receiving monthly handouts from them. Of course both sides will continue to think they are right like little children sheltered and biased from/about the world outside of theirs. I shall call this place, the playpen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted November 16, 2003 (edited) We hate niggers. Good for you guys. Edited November 16, 2003 by Flyboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 I hate niggers. Good for you. When did this occur? I dont see DH comment anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted November 16, 2003 I hate niggers. Good for you. When did this occur? I dont see DH comment anywhere. I basically paraphrased what he has been saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mercutio X. Machina Report post Posted November 16, 2003 It's good to know that a certain poster is banned and isn't needed here to cause an uproar about race and the ignorant, racist attitudes of some of the posters here. You've all done an outstanding job all by yourselves. Good thing that guy's gone. He was nothing but trouble. But at least he wasn't a fucking ignorant racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 How are they racists? Did they say they hate anybody? They're just stating facts. That is, unless someone could prove them wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 We hate niggers. Good for you guys. Not good for you though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 How are they racists? Did they say they hate anybody? They're just stating facts. That is, unless someone could prove them wrong. I'm interested in knowing who are the racists here. Please be a bit more specific instead of saying "those people..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 I hate niggers. Good for you. I didn't say that shit. You're right you didn't. Mercutio is nothing but trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2003 How are they racists? Did they say they hate anybody? They're just stating facts. That is, unless someone could prove them wrong. I'm interested in knowing who are the racists here. Please be a bit more specific instead of saying "those people..." Man, "those people" are always stealing "our" jobs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 It's good to know that a certain poster is banned and isn't needed here to cause an uproar about race and the ignorant, racist attitudes of some of the posters here. You've all done an outstanding job all by yourselves. Good thing that guy's gone. He was nothing but trouble. But at least he wasn't a fucking ignorant racist. It's good to know a certain poster couldn't even wait an entire DAY before identifying himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I hate niggers. Good for you. When did this occur? I dont see DH comment anywhere. I basically paraphrased what he has been saying. Flyboy, you're out of your mind. Take this shit to a folder you're qualified for. DH has made nothing but reasoned comments in this discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I hate niggers. Good for you. When did this occur? I dont see DH comment anywhere. I basically paraphrased what he has been saying. Flyboy, you're out of your mind. Take this shit to a folder you're qualified for. DH has made nothing but reasoned comments in this discussion. Oh, so he used big words saying he was a racist? *gives Downhome a blue ribbon* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 How about some actual proof? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sagrada3099 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 How about shutting the hell up? Your ( and DHs ) rhetoric in this thread has been some of the most inane and downright stupid shit that I've read here. Downhome said "This is nothing to get fired over." That is just...beyond dumb. The guy insulted an entire race of people for chrissakes! Maybe you can sit around, living a protected lifestyle, and believe all you want that this isnt a "big deal". I cant, because when a high-ranking government officcial decides to insult my race( not that he has, but hypothetically ), you better goddamned well believe I'm going to be pissed off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Show me the actual racist rhetoric. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sagrada3099 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Firstly Spicy, I get a strong undercurrent of disdain for blacks in your writings. I feel the same with DH. A couple of choice lines from both of you... Spicy McHaggis: "Persecution of blacks does not occur today" Now, Spicy, let's be real. Persecution of Blacks happens every fucking day. Look at a place like L.A., where the actions of a certain group of Black people ( Gang members ) make life horrible for any sane, law abiding Black citizen in the area. Any Black person driving a nice car and listening to loud-bass rap music can be considered a "thug", when I know for a fact that the majority arent. Let's take a look at the job market: While I dont agree with affirmitive action ( cuz if I were Black and I found out I got a job based solely on my skin color, I'd be offended ), persecution and discrimination happens in this area of society as well. To make a blanket statement like that, Spicy, is wildly ignorant. Then, from DH... Downhome: "Fuck the NAACP, 'black leaders', and all of that other bullshit" Wow. In one sentence, Downhome expressed hatred, not just dislike but HATRED for a major black rights institution, any type of political or spiritual black leaders, and "all that other bullshit", by which I'm going to assume he means affirmitive action, hate crime laws, etc. Now, he has a point about this "other bullshit". But, a mathematical equation for you: Hatred of Major Black Institutions + Hatred of Major Black Political and Spiritual leaders = Somewhat racist-sounding rhetoric, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Firstly Spicy, I get a strong undercurrent of disdain for blacks in your writings. That's b/c you're looking for it. I view people as individuals, not as a group. Persecution of Blacks happens every fucking day. Look at a place like L.A., where the actions of a certain group of Black people ( Gang members ) make life horrible for any sane, law abiding Black citizen in the area. Any Black person driving a nice car and listening to loud-bass rap music can be considered a "thug", when I know for a fact that the majority arent. That's not persecution, that's profiling, a necessary police tactic. People need to be smart enough to realize when and where to do the things they like to do. And I live in a place like L.A. Any sane, law-abiding Black citizen that can afford a nice car doesn't live in the same area as a gangbanger. Let's take a look at the job market: While I dont agree with affirmitive action ( cuz if I were Black and I found out I got a job based solely on my skin color, I'd be offended ), persecution and discrimination happens in this area of society as well. Plain and simple: bullshit. A business' purpose is to make money. Racism is no longer cost-effective. The economy requires the best, most qualified people to be hired. And any hint of discrimination becomes a PR nightmare. Wow. In one sentence, Downhome expressed hatred, not just dislike but HATRED for a major black rights institution, any type of political or spiritual black leaders... The NAACP is a joke and hasn't done anything worthwile since fighting segregation. It is just as ideologically motivated as the ACLU. "Black leaders", with quotes, implies figures like Jesse Jackson who make a living by cultivating the very racism they claim to fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sagrada3099 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Bullshit, huh? Look: Doctor's pay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Bullshit, huh? Look: Doctor's pay Question: Could it be because that minorities are only just breaking into the field while whites have been dominant in it for a quite a while, and based on their seniority they are likely to get more bonuses and better pay? Just something to consider there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Special interest groups suck. Except ones that benefit me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I'm just waiting to see how many people take my comment wrong and brand me as a racist. I can already here them typing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Hatred of Major Black Institutions + Hatred of Major Black Political and Spiritual leaders = Somewhat racist-sounding rhetoric, no? No. Bullshit, huh? Look: Doctor's pay Maybe more white doctors deserve it? Did that ever cross your mind? If it's not 50/50, that means racism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 ant I was joking. Of course having a term of endearment and fraternity sound almost exactly the same as a historically painful word is kind of a joke. Of course Nigga doesn't sound anything like Nigger. Anyone who has heard them both can tell that. I mean to be honest if some british person or japanese person said "nigger" it wouldn't be THAT offensive. To my mind the word "nigger" is most offensive when you have that southern twang on it. I guess I just don't believe that someone from Washington (the state) would ever be as racist as someone from GA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites