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[Guest MikeSC]

Did you know that Jeff Jarrett himself put up the money for this promotion, not Jerry Jarrett and that Jeff runs it, not his daddy?

Uh huh and?

Uh huh and..............he always is bitching about Jeff being on top because his daddy runs it. I'm once again pointing out how he has no clue what he is talking about because Jeff runs everything, not his father. If you're going to Bitch, at least Bitch with the accurate facts.

So, uh, Jeff being on top because Jeff runs it is BETTER?

-=Mike

[Guest TDinDC1112]

Did you know that Jeff Jarrett himself put up the money for this promotion, not Jerry Jarrett and that Jeff runs it, not his daddy?

Uh huh and?

Uh huh and..............he always is bitching about Jeff being on top because his daddy runs it. I'm once again pointing out how he has no clue what he is talking about because Jeff runs everything, not his father. If you're going to Bitch, at least Bitch with the accurate facts.

So, uh, Jeff being on top because Jeff runs it is BETTER?

-=Mike

No, it's just if you argue, at least have your facts right so you don't come off as a dipshit. All he ever does is complain about Jarrett getting free reign because his dad is in charge. I'm just pointing out that his dad isn't in charge, and if he reads the Observer every week like he claims, I'm not sure how he doesn't know that.

[Kardo 0]

reigh as tag champs

 

Sincerly, Dave JW O'Neill

Don't whinge about others making spelling mistakes.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

My bad..I'm sorry.

 

Sidenote - DuskTilDawn is reading this, I thought he quit because he couldn't handle criticism of Wildside in the Misc. Promotions thread. Why the fuck are you still here then?

[Downhome 0]

Plus I think he was on the first ever PPV as Justice (I'm not sure).

Abyss is JUSTICE!??????????????????????????

[Zack Malibu 0]

Plus I think he was on the first ever PPV as Justice (I'm not sure).

Abyss is JUSTICE!??????????????????????????

Yep. Same guy. That's why he worked well with Styles last week, as they've done battle down in NWA:Wildside.

[Downhome 0]

Plus I think he was on the first ever PPV as Justice (I'm not sure).

Abyss is JUSTICE!??????????????????????????

Yep. Same guy. That's why he worked well with Styles last week, as they've done battle down in NWA:Wildside.

*blank stare*

 

Well holy fucking shit.

 

I'm in Wildside country, so it's safe to say that I've been to my fair share of shows down there, I've talked and met a few of the guys, etc... I've been there in the NWA Arena and watched Justince/AJ, I can't believe this. I know it means nothing to any of you, but it's just kick ass that I've met this guy before.

 

I remember his feud with Stone Mountain (When Mountain was the Wildside champ) which was just awesome. At one show I went to, months after their "main" feud they met again, and I was there again. Justice was the champion by that time, and Stone Mountain was making his big return to Wildside. Anyway, they started fighting, and Justice just SQUASHED Mountain. Went in the ring, kicked his ass, then did his finisher like...5-8 times in a row, and just pinned him. I remember myself, and just about everyone else in the building wondering just what in the hell had just happened, we couldn't believe it. That's one of my favorite Pro. Wrestling memories ever, it was just awesome.

 

I've only seen "Abyss" once, on the show two weeks ago. I'll watch last weeks show later to check out his last match with AJ.

 

This is just cool, thanks a lot.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Not a problem DH. Keep in mind that your boy Justice there was also one of the main reasons Dutch Mantell brought the IWA up from the ashes in Puerto Rico. No doubt with Dutch in TNA, he'll be getting the same treatment.

 

Bps and I stated a long time ago that Abyss was going to wind up as a force in TNA. THIS is the kind of hoss the WWE needs.

[Downhome 0]

Well that's great, I wish nothing but the best for the guy.

 

I was also at the Wildside Arena when Scottie Wrenn beat Justice for the title, out of nowhere and in just a few seconds, and I can't believe that the same guy that lost the title, pretending to cry, whining, etc... is freaking Abyss.

 

It's just amusing to me.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Wrestlers unhappy at a less talented 'higher-up' getting pushed over them. OMG STOP DA PRESSES!!!

 

As long as Jarrett is in control, he can push himself. Who's going to stop him? That's why HHH is in control, and that's why Jarrett is still in control. That's why Flair was so great in WCW and why Hogan ran the WWF in the early 90's. It's why the Funks were top of the Texas area back in the day. They had the control, they booked who went top of the company. If they thought it was they who should be top, in the end it's their business.

 

Believe me, people being 'unhappy' won't stop Jarrett. Just look at Trips, how long he's been on top, and what's been done about it.

[Guest Jay Z. Hollywood]

My bad..I'm sorry.

 

Sidenote - DuskTilDawn is reading this, I thought he quit because he couldn't handle criticism of Wildside in the Misc. Promotions thread. Why the fuck are you still here then?

Ugh, flamebait anybody?

 

DuskTillDawn= ShooterJay=Jay Doring

 

The guy who "quit" as you put it, was Phoenix Fury Legdrop/Thomas Green, one of my best friends on the board and a good friend off of it. And at 16 years old, has *repeatedly* proven himself to be much smarter than you. And guess what? He knows guys like David Young, Jimmy Rave, Jeff G. Bailey and Rick Michaels personally, so it's a safe bet he knows a shitload more about this business than you do. He had his reasons for leaving, and I respect them. If guys like you kept ignorantly bashing the product (which you've been warned about by almost EVERY SINGLE MOD here) I would have left too.

 

I have no idea why the heck my merely reading this thread merited a "what the fuck are you doing here" post from you.

[Zack Malibu 0]

It was indeed a flamebait, and it better be the last time it happens. I've about had it with the degeneration of this folder so I might seem biased, but 1inch/O'Neill has been warned in the past. It happens again, and you're on the outside looking in from that point on.

[Jack_Bauer 0]

Usually I am in defence of Dave, but this did look like a quite blatant attempt at a flamebait.

[Styles 0]

Wrestlers unhappy at a less talented 'higher-up' getting pushed over them. OMG STOP DA PRESSES!!!

 

As long as Jarrett is in control, he can push himself. Who's going to stop him? That's why HHH is in control, and that's why Jarrett is still in control. That's why Flair was so great in WCW and why Hogan ran the WWF in the early 90's. It's why the Funks were top of the Texas area back in the day. They had the control, they booked who went top of the company. If they thought it was they who should be top, in the end it's their business.

 

Believe me, people being 'unhappy' won't stop Jarrett. Just look at Trips, how long he's been on top, and what's been done about it.

Here we go...

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Yeah bay, here we go

 

To compare JJJ and HHH is quite laughable

 

Triple H loves the wrestling business, Jarrett is still around because he has a grudge against Vince.

 

HHH frequently works injured, just because

HHH jobbed to Goldberg, professional asshole, on the last two PPV's

HHH's next program will be with another professional asshole, who, despite having....limited in ring abilty, is going to be put over by HHH.

 

Jarrett?

Vince wouldn't make Jarrett a ME back in 1999, failed as WCW Main Eventer, and so sets up his own company to make HIMSELF a ME. Explain to me how that works.

 

BTW, as for the whole Shooter Jay thing, I apologise, I certainly didn't mean it to be flamebait, I was just curious, as I was convinced you quit along with PFL. Carry On, if your'e still here.

[Styles 0]

Right, Jarrett doesn't love wrestling...It has nothing to do with literally growing up in the business...Jarrett never does jobs, Im sure HHH jobs to country singers and race car drivers all the time...not to mention AJ Styles...

Why am I bothering...

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Believe me, I could ask you that question myself

 

Btw, Slapnuts, have you read Steve Austin's book?

 

In case you haven't, your boy doesn't come off too well in it.

 

Of course, if I was on my first day in the WWE, the last thing I'd do is piss of Austin.

[bob_barron 0]

Yes because Austin has no biases against Jarrett at all.

 

Jesus Dave- just shut up. At least other people who Jarrett hate occasionally make a lick of sense

[Zack Malibu 0]

Austin doesn't like Jarrett. What do you think he was going to write in his book, that maybe he and Jeff could have been the next Hollywood Blondes?

 

Austin is biased. You are biased. Simple as that. WE GET IT.

[Jack_Bauer 0]

Wasn't Austin one of the main reasons that Jarrett left WWF ?

[Zack Malibu 0]

Wasn't Austin one of the main reasons that Jarrett left WWF ?

Austin was supposed to feud with both Billy Gunn and Jarrett, which he saw as a step below where he was (and given the status of the other two at the time, it really was. The Gunn experiment had failed and Jarrett didn't pick up steam until the wifebeater angle). When he vetoed the feuds, it pissed JJ off. The final nail in his coffin was his contract running out the day before he was to drop the IC belt to Chyna, and he held Vince up for money, around the sum of $250,000 if I'm not mistaken.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Thats not all. On Jarrett's first day back in 1997, he went right up to Austin and starting bitching about Austin's 3:16 schtick, and how it was, like, offensive and stuff

[Zack Malibu 0]

Thats not all. On Jarrett's first day back in 1997, he went right up to Austin and starting bitching about Austin's 3:16 schtick, and how it was, like, offensive and stuff

THAT was part of his angle. He felt he was a superstar above all the WWE superstars, hence his shoot angle. He may have not agreed on the biblical relations of the catchphrase (many didn't), but a lot of that was the post-Montreal worked shoot phase. I have that interview on tape.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Incidentially, so do I. It might shock people, but I actually think he's pretty good wrestler, and was one of the few people keeping me watching WCW near the end. If he'd been a little less of an ego-maniac (and not been a greedy bastard) he'd probably be in the WWE Upper MC-ME right now

[BX 0]

But he doesn't love wrestling.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Oh I'd say he "loves" the business, but he's only in it because no-one else takes him seriously

 

-He's not welcome back in the WWE (Lesson #1. Stop screwing Vince over)

 

-He'd be laughed out of ROH

 

-I don't think he'd fit in Japan

 

In fairness, because I don't watch the stuff, I don't care what he's like in the ring, its his out of ring decisions that bother me

[Zack Malibu 0]

Oh I'd say he "loves" the business, but he's only in it because no-one else takes him seriously

 

-He's not welcome back in the WWE (Lesson #1. Stop screwing Vince over)

 

-He'd be laughed out of ROH

 

-I don't think he'd fit in Japan

 

In fairness, because I don't watch the stuff, I don't care what he's like in the ring, its his out of ring decisions that bother me

There are plenty of other people who aren't welcome in the WWE, big whoop. Shane Douglas wouldn't be brought back to the WWE if everyone but Henry and Jones died and they needed new faces. So by that token, Shane Douglas is someone you like, who has burned his bridges with the WWE, yet you still cheer him. What's the difference in the case of JJ?

 

Jarrett wouldn't fit in ROH, duh. What point does that prove? Hogan wouldn't fit in ROH either but it doesn't make him any less of a star.

 

The jury is out on Japan. Lesser guys than Jarrett have gone there and become totally new workers.

 

So I ask, what did those three points prove?

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

You know Jarrett is probably getting less money out of owning TNA than he would be on the indy scene.

 

Who do you think took the brunt of the paycut when TNA was fighting for it's life last summer?

[Styles 0]

No, I have not read Austin's book. I don't think using a guy who walks out before a live show because he's unhappy with how he's being booked and refuses to do jobs to new guys is the best "witness" to use to prove that Jarrett is selfish, doesn't love the business and doesn't do jobs.

By the way, besides Austin just about everyone else in wrestling recognizes Jarrett as one of the best workers you can be with in the ring. It might have been Mick Foley in one of his books that mentioned that Jeff Jarrett is the best example of a "good worker" because everything he does in the ring is solid and he doesn't hurt anybody.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I think Jarrett is a bland but very solid worker. He's not going to break spectacular moves during a match but he's not going to really mess anything up either.