Bill O'Reilly vs Matt Drudge

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

He also talks about Bush stealing the election in 2000. Where's the chapter on that Al? Where's your meticiulous research? He keeps bringing it up- but there's no chapter where he goes in-depth with it.

All those Harvard students must have been on spring break or something when it came time to mention that...

[Vyce 0]

Here's my thing about Franken - I generally don't care about him or what he does, at all, but I totally believe he's every bit the whore as his conservative counterparts.

 

For all his criticism of them, if Fox offered him a big bucks contract for his own prime time show, he'd take it in a heartbeat. He's not out on some crusade, he's in this to make money, just like the rest of them.

 

Hell, offer him Colmes spot on H&C, and he'd jump for it.

[Guest MikeSC]

Here's my thing about Franken - I generally don't care about him or what he does, at all, but I totally believe he's every bit the whore as his conservative counterparts.

 

For all his criticism of them, if Fox offered him a big bucks contract for his own prime time show, he'd take it in a heartbeat. He's not out on some crusade, he's in this to make money, just like the rest of them.

 

Hell, offer him Colmes spot on H&C, and he'd jump for it.

That --- and, honestly, he's ever inch as angry and mean as O'Reilly is.

-=Mike

[Guest Cerebus]

You ask me, I find it extremely sad that ANY of these books are selling well. They really have no purpose but to stroke the egos of those who write them and those who read them...if they read them at all! I have met many Michael Moore fans who own, but never actually READ, "Stupid White Men" (I can't blame them its a shoddly written, poorly edited, and unfunny). None of these books you guys are talking about really give any half-decent info (except maybe Slander and only because of a wealth of antecdotes than anything else) just bashing one side or the other. To think, the defenders of the Constitution published the Federalist Papers to argue their point...now we have Treason, Lying Liars, Who's Looking Out For You, Stupid White Men, and Living History as our political literature. No wonder we're so fucked....

[2GOLD 0]

I just like Al Franken cause he played a great Stuart Smalley. He can occasionally get a chuckle out of me but when he goes politics, most of the time I turn him off.

 

But Franken as bad as Bill? Come on....I support neither side and even I don't believe that.

 

Al may be a jerk, but if you look in Webster for the meaning of a*shole and you get a big picture of Bill O'Reilly. Then again, Bill is Irish so I expect him to have some anger issues. I'm Irish as well so I know the anger issue.

 

But as bad as O'Reilly is....he is MILES behind the pure d*ckhead known as Michael Moore. This guy makes Oliver Stone seem quiet and understanding.

 

To recap my thoughts

Al Franken is bad, O'Reilly is worse

O'Reilly is worse, Moore is the son of Satan

 

Oh and as for Matt Drudge? I'd believe news in my dog's p*ss before I'd believe Drudge.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

But Al is a slimeball too. Just a liberal slimeball.

Have you ever read the book? His book has a lot more facts behind the claims he's made.

 

If you want a guy to just blindly shill the Democratic way, Michael Moore is just down the street.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

He also talks about Bush stealing the election in 2000. Where's the chapter on that Al? Where's your meticiulous research? He keeps bringing it up- but there's no chapter where he goes in-depth with it.

Oh man, you sound like O'Reilly himself.

 

He also calls Bush a cokehead (Or someone who did cocaine) a couple times and again- he doesn't provide any evidence to back up.

 

Perhaps, you didn't pay attention to the time in the election where Bush admitted to his "youthful indescretions" that led to all the cokehead jokes running into the election.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

You ask me, I find it extremely sad that ANY of these books are selling well. They really have no purpose but to stroke the egos of those who write them and those who read them...if they read them at all! I have met many Michael Moore fans who own, but never actually READ, "Stupid White Men" (I can't blame them its a shoddly written, poorly edited, and unfunny). None of these books you guys are talking about really give any half-decent info

Well, as for what I've read...

 

Stupid White Men: Funny at first, but the guy is downright wrong and somewhat scary in his predictions of doom regarding other issues (like racism, where appearantly all the black people are going to revolt pretty soon. Whaaa?)

 

Lies And The Lying Liars: Better factually researched than the other books. I read this one more for humor than for the political commentary though.

 

O'Reilly Factor: Not so much a written version of his raving as it is him telling you why he thinks you should live your life like he does. This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't know the guy was so arrogant.

 

No-Spin Zone: This is where we take a turn for the worse. When he could even open the book without talking about the Clintons I figured it was going to set a theme of a written version of his show. I was right.

 

Michael Savage (forget which book, it was from the library): Almost like transcripts of his radio show. I can imagine he actually had someone with a typewriter in his studio writing down his ranting so that it could be edited into book format.

 

Haven't tried Coulter, Limbaugh, or Moore's new book because I find myself reading more history/military stuff than the pundits.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Perhaps, you didn't pay attention to the time in the election where Bush admitted to his "youthful indescretions" that led to all the cokehead jokes running into the election.

Well since nothing was ever proven I guess it's OK to still call Bush a cokehead.

 

From this point on I'm going to refer to Al as a child molester, among other things...

[Jobber of the Week 0]

He never said. He refused to say he had never done it. We don't know one way or the other, but he still won't say he never did it. He did say that he passes the same standard used by his cabnet members, which is that he hasn't used drugs in the past seven years.

 

I'm sure if you asked Al Franken if he was a child molester, he'd firmly say no. Why won't Bush say the same thing about his drug use? Does he have something to hide?

[Dr. Tom 0]

Why won't Bush say the same thing about his drug use? Does he have something to hide?

Because it doesn't matter. "OMG HE SNORTED A FEW LINES IN COLLEGE~!!!11!!!1!!1!" Really, who cares? I didn't care that Clinton smoked pot when he was younger, either. Heck, it was expected that people would experiment with drugs back in the 60s and 70s. I'm sure any president, or any politician, who spent those decades in high school or college experimented with drugs and probably diddled more than his share of coeds and sorority girls. And in the end... who really cares, except people who need something cheap and easy to criticize?

[Some Guy 0]

My favorite Frankin story is from his appearance on Leno. He was on to promote his book and stated that (the at the time not elected) Governor Arnold said that he thought Hitler was a good leader, which Arnold did say and is in fact true to some degree but then Al went on to say that Arnold said that he liked what Hitler did with his leadership skills which is totaly false, Arnold said exactly the opposite. The irony of someone shillign a book called "the lies and the lying liars who tell them" or whatever it's called saying a bold faced lie on national tv didn't go unnoticed by me at least and even Leno seemed uneasy when Frankin made his false statement, although Leno didn't refute it.

 

O'Reily is an arrogant, blow hard who'sshow is nearly unwatchable these says because he spends half the show plugging his book and strokig his ego while talking over his guests and being a self-righteous shithead.

Frankin is an asshole and is far more mean than O'Reilly. Bill uses words like "nitwit" to describe people on TV, Frankin uses phrases like "fuckign asshole" and "Bush is an idiotic cokehead and I hate him."

 

Neither are worth my time anymore. I never had any use for Frankin outside of "I'm good enough, smart enough, and dog gon it people like me."

[Guest JMA]

Every time I pass by the books at work, I have this uncontrollable want to punch the O'Reilly book.

I thought I was the only one...

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Because it doesn't matter.

I'll agree, but we're talking about the validity of Franken's claims, so it does matter in this one insignificant circumstance.

 

The press kept giving the guy hell for it, I'll say.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

O'Reily is an arrogant, blow hard who'sshow is nearly unwatchable these says because he spends half the show plugging his book

Don't forget pimping Factor gear...

[bob_barron 0]

Hey- those Factor windbreakers are bad ass.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Hey- those Factor windbreakers are bad ass.

But will they get you laid by all the college girls? No, because they're all being turned liberal by their communist professors.

 

Meanwhile, over on channel 360 (you know what News), John Kasich (the stand-in blowhard when O'Reilly is too busy or otherwise occupied to do his usual deal) is whining because more people are interested in Paris Hilton than President Bush. Well, boo hoo. Then some guy comes on and just totally took a crap on Kasich and his "why don't anyone care about news & politics anymore" pity party. Told him that he's the problem with America. Hah.

[Vern Gagne 0]

What the hell is wrong with asking that?

 

He's the problem with America? Yes, god forbid people show more interest in something that actually is important, and not too two spoiled rich brats.

[Guest MikeSC]

He never said. He refused to say he had never done it. We don't know one way or the other, but he still won't say he never did it. He did say that he passes the same standard used by his cabnet members, which is that he hasn't used drugs in the past seven years.

 

I'm sure if you asked Al Franken if he was a child molester, he'd firmly say no. Why won't Bush say the same thing about his drug use? Does he have something to hide?

Why SHOULD Bush respond?

 

Remember how much it pissed off Clinton that the press was obsessed with his private life and how a lot of things were none of their business?

 

Bush's youth is NONE of the press' business. Why even give the rumors credibility by responding? If Bush ignores them --- which any candidate SHOULD do --- the press CAN'T make it an issue.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Because it doesn't matter.

I'll agree, but we're talking about the validity of Franken's claims, so it does matter in this one insignificant circumstance.

 

The press kept giving the guy hell for it, I'll say.

Jobber, basic tenet of journalism:

 

It's up to YOU to prove your point. It's not up to others to disprove it.

-=Mike

[BX 0]

If they want to get on Bush about his private life, they should start with his apparent inability to chew a pretzel before swallowing it.

 

And I'm missing something Mike. What point are you asking Jobber to make?

[Guest MikeSC]

If they want to get on Bush about his private life, they should start with his apparent inability to chew a pretzel before swallowing it.

 

And I'm missing something Mike. What point are you asking Jobber to make?

If Franken is going to say Bush is a cokehead, he should provide something resembling PROOF that he was a cokehead. Seeing as Bush refuses to even discuss the topic, proof is nigh impossible to come by.

 

And, oh, Bush choked on food. OMG, WHAT A FOOL LOL! ANYBODY who chokes on food is too stupid to do anything.

 

Heck, I suppose somebody who'd fall at a house and breaks his ankle probably can't walk properly and shouldn't be President either, huh?

-=Mike

[BX 0]

I just think it's funny that one of the most protected men in the world nearly died from a fucking piece of salted wheat flour product. I know, I would, since I'm a godless anti-American Palestianian ball-fondling Communist.

 

I bet Marney held a candlelight vigil until word came that the irritation in his throat had subsided.

[Guest Cerebus]

I just think it's funny that one of the most protected men in the world nearly died from a fucking piece of salted wheat flour product. I know, I would, since I'm a godless anti-American Palestianian ball-fondling Communist.

 

I bet Marney held a candlelight vigil until word came that the irritation in his throat had subsided.

Yeah near death experiences are a comedic gold mine.

[Firestarter 0]

I bet Marney held a candlelight vigil until word came that the irritation in his throat had subsided.

Flame-bait me one more time and it gets reported. I'm not ignoring your crap any longer, so consider this a warning.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

If Franken is going to say Bush is a cokehead, he should provide something resembling PROOF that he was a cokehead. Seeing as Bush refuses to even discuss the topic, proof is nigh impossible to come by.

How dare he draw conclusions of his own in an opinion book!

[Guest MikeSC]

If Franken is going to say Bush is a cokehead, he should provide something resembling PROOF that he was a cokehead. Seeing as Bush refuses to even discuss the topic, proof is nigh impossible to come by.

How dare he draw conclusions of his own in an opinion book!

Provided that he bitched and moaned about the right doing things like that --- it was more than mildly ironic.

 

You know what I don't get? Franken, somehow, is more respectable than Rush Limbaugh. They seem like the same person to me.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

They seem like the same person to me.

-=Mike

Only Rush doesn't molest children.

 

And worship Satan...

[Guest MikeSC]

They seem like the same person to me.

          -=Mike

Only Rush doesn't molest children.

 

And worship Satan...

And Rush doesn't make the baby Jesus cry.

-=Mike

[NoCalMike 0]

I am not sure what O'Reaily is so pissed about. Not like people take what Drudge says seriously anyway. However I guess because they both preach to the same crowd, it could hurt O'Reily a bit.