Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 5, 2004 They have ADS THAT DIRECTLY COMPARE BUSH TO HITLER. They have ads where they use kids WAY too much to put out their message. I've lost every drop of respect I ever had for Jack Black as he is one of the judges for this crap contest. I want to see ANYBODY on the left defend this bilge. I'm sure idiots at pandagon.net (conservatives, check out the site --- FAR LEFT whackjobs) would love it --- but I'd like to believe that are leftists here are somewhat more sane. -=Mike drudgereport.com has a report on all of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I actually would compare Dean with the way he uses "passionate" speeches to stir up a crowd and gain a following being more similar to Hitler, but that's neither here nor there. I'll have to check this out for a laugh though (or a cry). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Which one's the Hitler one, since I'm stuck on dial-up and don't feel like looking through a bunch of ads trying to find that one. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Why is comparing someone to Hitler so wrong!? If I tell someone they hit the ball like Darrel Strawberry should they be offended? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Oh look. Another "OMG LOOK AT THIS VILE SHIT" post. Who cares Mike, seriously? Should I go find webpage that proclaims Bush as a "soldier of Jesus Christ" and ask you to defend that? Everytime you find something like this on any two-bit website, you come running back here, and post something to the effect of, "Oh my fucking God, look at this. I told you they were insane. I feel dirty, and must now take a bath to rid myself of any potential terrorist notions I might have caught from this fucking pit of godlessness." Nobody cares. They are just extremists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Why is comparing someone to Hitler so wrong!? Do you really need to ask that? I can give you 6-11 million reasons why, depending on which historical account you believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I actually would compare Dean with the way he uses "passionate" speeches to stir up a crowd and gain a following being more similar to Hitler, but that's neither here nor there. I'll have to check this out for a laugh though (or a cry). Oh yeah, tell me against about how Hitler was married to a Jew and had Jewish children lol. Completely stupid. For those not in the know, Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Dean is married to a Jewish woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Vince McMahon is like Hitler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Why is comparing someone to Hitler so wrong!? Do you really need to ask that? I can give you 6-11 million reasons why, depending on which historical account you believe. Come on Tom, Bush is marching innocent Iraqis into death camps just like Hitler did the Jews! Can't you see? And the ZIONISTS~! in Israel are the Nazis now, slaughtering the innocent Palestinians at their will, as Herr Bush funds their atrocoties! God, I fucking hate these types.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I actually would compare Dean with the way he uses "passionate" speeches to stir up a crowd and gain a following being more similar to Hitler, but that's neither here nor there. I'll have to check this out for a laugh though (or a cry). Oh yeah, tell me against about how Hitler was married to a Jew and had Jewish children lol. Completely stupid. First of all, I was being facecious. Second of all, the comment had to do with their similarities in being firy speakers able to elicit a loyal crowd respone, which is way more Dean's sepcialty than Bush's. Third of all, his family is irrelevant. Notice how they've stayed completly out of the spotlight? I dont blame them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 First of all, I was being facecious. Second of all, the comment had to do with their similarities in being firy speakers able to elicit a loyal crowd respone, which is way more Dean's sepcialty than Bush's. Third of all, his family is irrelevant. Notice how they've stayed completly out of the spotlight? I dont blame them... I know. Dr. King was a firey speaker, too. His family is irrelevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted January 5, 2004 For anyone, excuse me all of you who missed the point, take note to my analogy. I'm saying not everytime someone's compared to Hitler it means they were an evil dictator who tried to slaughter everyone he deemed unworthy and take over the word in the 1930's. I'm not justifying using it as pretty much a shit spoon to get the point across, but I hate how everytime there's a comparison raised or someone's said to of admired him for one reason or another everyone jumps out of there chair like a bomb went off. He was a person too, and had personality traits both good and bad. Of course he orchestrated one of the most gruesome happenings in the history of mankind, but that shouldn't deny what he was good at or something about him that was admirable. I thought we were all about taking the good from the bad in this world? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Well, no one would ever admit it, but I'd be willing to bet that most politicians would kill to be half the public speaker Hitler was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 5, 2004 For anyone, excuse me all of you who missed the point, take note to my analogy. I'm saying not everytime someone's compared to Hitler it means they were an evil dictator who tried to slaughter everyone he deemed unworthy and take over the word in the 1930's. I'm not justifying using it as pretty much a shit spoon to get the point across, but I hate how everytime there's a comparison raised or someone's said to of admired him for one reason or another everyone jumps out of there chair like a bomb went off. He was a person too, and had personality traits both good and bad. Of course he orchestrated one of the most gruesome happenings in the history of mankind, but that shouldn't deny what he was good at or something about him that was admirable. I thought we were all about taking the good from the bad in this world? The text of the ads: SEE MOVEON.ORG HITLER/BUSH AD CONTENDER... MOVEON.ORG SCRIPT GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler HITLER: (Speaking In German) CHYRON: We have taken new measures to protect our homeland, GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler HITLER: (Speaking In German) CHYRON: I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator, GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler HITLER: (Speaking In German) CHYRON: God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, GRAPHIC: Pictures of President Bush HITLER: (Speaking In German) CHYRON: and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did. CHYRON: SOUND FAMILIAR? BACKGROUND: Cheering German Crowd A SECOND ADVERT WHICH COMPARES PRESIDENT BUSH TO HITLER STREAMED ON MOVEON.ORG, THE DRUDGE REPORT HAS LEARNED. THE NEW HITLER SPOT FEATURED THE GRAPHIC 'SPONSORED BY MOVEON.ORG.' [CLICK TO VIEW AD] GRAPHIC: Nazi Flags In A Parade GRAPHIC: Hitler HITLER: (Speaking In German) CHYRON: A NATION WARPED BY LIES GRAPHIC: German Troops Marching GRAPHIC: Hitler In Car In Parade GRAPHIC: German Troops Marching CHYRON: LIES FUEL FEAR GRAPHIC: German Tanks CHYRON: FEAR FUELS AGGRESSION GRAPHIC: German Artillery Firing GRAPHIC: German Planes Dropping Bombs GRAPHIC: German Tanks Firing CHYRON: INVASION GRAPHIC: German Tanks Rolling Down Street CHYRON: OCCUPATION GRAPHIC: Hitler With Hand Raised BACKGROUND: Sig Heil! Sig Heil! CHYRON: WHAT WERE WAR CRIMES IN 1945 GRAPHIC: President Bush With Hand Raised At Inauguration BACKGROUND: Sig Heil! Sig Heil! CHYRON: IS FOREIGN POLICY IN 2003 CHYRON: SPONSORED BY MOVEON.ORG Do you see why somebody might take a bit of offense to this, Ghetto or BX? Remember how much the conservatives ripped into Buchanan and Falwell for being such friggin' tools post-9/11? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I am a "leftist" and have never been to moveon.org ever. Obviously ads comparing Bush to Hitler are lame, stupid and just plain wrong, but damn MikeSC you have probably given this left wing extremist site more hits then any lefty on this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I want to see ANYBODY on the left defend this bilge. No, but if it makes you feel better, I'll join in: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I am a "leftist" and have never been to moveon.org ever. Obviously ads comparing Bush to Hitler are lame, stupid and just plain wrong, but damn MikeSC you have probably given this left wing extremist site more hits then any lefty on this board. moveon.org is the pet of George Soros --- you know, the left's Scaife (or, as Dick Morris puts it, "when comparing the two, just add a "zero" to the end of the money for Soros). It has a fairly large audience (VERY large audience) and will be a major player for the Democrats in 2004. It is also a breathing example of the problems those of us who opposed campaign finance reform stated. Well, the only real thing that came out of this is that I now will no longer watch Jack Black's movies. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 damn MikeSC you have probably given this left wing extremist site more hits then any lefty on this board. I think Drudge gave this a bit more publicity than Mike could. Why, Bush wants foreign visitors to be photographed and fingerprinted -- that's almost like gassing millions of Jews! Those wacky lefties. Sad thing is isn't Moveon.org a tax-exempt organization?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I'm not justifying using it as pretty much a shit spoon to get the point across Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 moveon.org is the pet of George Soros --- you know, the left's Scaife (or, as Dick Morris puts it, "when comparing the two, just add a "zero" to the end of the money for Soros). Oh please. Soros doesn't have nearly the record that Scaife does. Unless you want to correct me, I don't think he funds media outlets like the American Spectator. I mean, sure, if you want, you can try to paint Soros out as a Scaife wannabe. But his record has been clean, donating to humanitarian causes, until he recently said that defeating Bush is his mission in life. Scaife's been playing the game for decades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 5, 2004 moveon.org is the pet of George Soros --- you know, the left's Scaife (or, as Dick Morris puts it, "when comparing the two, just add a "zero" to the end of the money for Soros). Oh please. Soros doesn't have nearly the record that Scaife does. Unless you want to correct me, I don't think he funds media outlets like the American Spectator. I mean, sure, if you want, you can try to paint Soros out as a Scaife wannabe. But his record has been clean, donating to humanitarian causes, until he recently said that defeating Bush is his mission in life. Scaife's been playing the game for decades. And he's putting in more money than Scaife ever did. He's putting in untold millions into this campaign --- and if Dean wins, God knows for much power Soros will have in the gov't. And, let's be honest, a LOT of "humanitarian causes" are just liberal causes with pretty terminology. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 And he's putting in more money than Scaife ever did. It's a good thing you caught me on the week when I'm reading the Franken book. From chapter 19 ("Who Created The Tone?") In total, Scaife's contribution to right-wing groups (more than a hundred of them) adds up to over $200 million dollars. Soros has spent $15 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 I think both sides are hypocrites and it's funny to see defending when it's obviously stupid. This has to be the stupidest pile of bull I have seen in my life....well, until the elections start up again cause then I'll see worse. And people wonder why I don't want to vote for either of this sides. Talk about wackos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Forgive me if I'm incorrect, but wasn't it Himmler's doing that began the Hollocaust? I was under the impression that Hitler merely wanted the Jews to be in a state of servitude within the concentration camps, then he went to Himmler and said that something had to be done about the "storage problem", leaving Himmler and his secretary (Heidenreich?) to come up with the plan. At least, that's the way that I remember it. I could be entirely wrong, but the way I remember learning it was that Hitler wasn't the one who orchestrated the deaths of 6-11 million Jews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Wow. If you're right then the comparison is even more eerie. Himmler = Cheney. OMG, who's that knocking at my door? This will be yet another entry in The Diary of kkk... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Forgive me if I'm incorrect, but wasn't it Himmler's doing that began the Hollocaust? I was under the impression that Hitler merely wanted the Jews to be in a state of servitude within the concentration camps, then he went to Himmler and said that something had to be done about the "storage problem", leaving Himmler and his secretary (Heidenreich?) to come up with the plan. At least, that's the way that I remember it. I could be entirely wrong, but the way I remember learning it was that Hitler wasn't the one who orchestrated the deaths of 6-11 million Jews. My god, no wonder Hitler committed suicide! When he found out what had happened under his watch, he couldn't live with himself anymore! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Wow, so maybe it's not too bad to be compared to Hitler after all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Wow. If you're right then the comparison is even more eerie. Himmler = Cheney. OMG, who's that knocking at my door? This will be yet another entry in The Diary of kkk... I always figured you fit in with them you Jew hating bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 was this ad a part of the Bush in 60 seconds contest? I *had* heard about that. ie, normal people made ads and sent them in? It's kind of a shame, because I went to the stie and looked at some other videos that people made and submitted, and had to admit there were some creative and funny ones (i like the ones with little kids "what i would do as president"), but now they are all going to be screwed thanks to them putting up the hitler ad. Great job MoveOn *rolls eyes* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 More Nazi comparsions Ashcroft=Eichman Rove=Goebbels Rice=Braun Powell=Goerring Card=Borman DeLay=Tojo Frist=Mussolini Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
