JN News 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Guys, I just got an email reply from "The Meltz", and he says that Edge WILL be jumping to RAW after Wrestlemania. He said that was the plan as of two weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Stupid, stupid, stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Care to post that email here? Oh, and if this actually is true, I hope Helmsley kills Edge out of the gates. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 I think so. that was the plan as of two weeks ago. Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Here's what happened *somewhere in the areana* Guy 1: You know what will be good? Guy 2: What? Guy 1: Edge coming to Raw Guy 2: That would be pretty good, but isn't he on Smackdown? Guy 1: Yeah, but Edge on Raw will be cool. Guy 2: Indeed it is. Some one over hears the conversation, and reports to Meltzer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 What's the deal with everyone turning on Edge all of a sudden? If I'm not mistaken, wasn't everyone here singing his praises while he was on the DL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 One poster doesn't speak for them all, JN. I've never liked Edge and fail to see him as anything past a mediocre midcarder, and he should stay that way. He only ever has great matches when he is in the ring with guys who can make him look good, such as Guerrero, Angle, Lesnar etc. Those guys are capable of making BIG SHOW look great, so making Edge look like the next Bret Hart isn't too much of a stretch for them. Plus his brand of humour is borderline retarded, leaving me wanting to gore my brains out with a screwdriver most of the time. Just doesn't do it for me. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Fantastic! Triple H gets to squash another young wrestler who had a change at becoming a star. Marvelous! I may not be a huge Edge fan but at least he is a decent worker with a good fan base and does at least deserve a shot at the top of the card in the future. Alas, he now looks to join the likes of Rob Van Dam over on Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Hey redbaron51, you're probably right. Si82, I doubt that Edge coming to Raw would automatically throw him into the World Heavyweight Championship picture, and even if he was, it appears that if he gets a shot, it will be against Chris Benoit. And by the way, Edge is already incredibly over. No, Matt Hardy obviously came to Raw to be with Amy while travelling, and there was an angle set up there for him that never really developed. Chris Benoit, on the other hand, was brought to Raw to go straight into the World Heavyweight Championship picture, obviously, and because he can draw, as Vince McMahon seems to finally realise, not to have him squashed in every match when he needs to get over, alike a certain other 'Brand-jumper'. There would have to be something in the Intercontinental Championship picture to warrant Edge coming to Raw. An Austin introduction also, possibly, but hopefully not. Raw have a great Intercontinental Championship picture, but they refuse to develop it right now. I mean, with Randy Orton holding that particular Championship right now, and him being in Evolution, who need Gold around there waists to keep Triple H strong heading into WrestleMania, the WWE really have no choice, and we have ourselves a bit of a dilemma, with a barrage of worthy holders and Orton involved in a WrestleMania blow-off angle right now that will not see his opponent winning the Intercontinental Championship any time soon.. However, if Triple H does indeed lose his World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania, then it's time to start stripping Evolution of their Gold - and with Edge reportedly coming in afterwards, it's a perfect opportunity for him and the other guys, who, as you saw in the Main Event on Raw, are hopefully being kept looking strong and 'in the picture' for after WrestleMania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 What's the deal with everyone turning on edge all of a sudden? If I'm not mistaken, wasn't everyone here singing his praises while he was on the DL? Not me, i always thought Edge was always riding on the coattails of the Smackdown 5.If he is with the right wrestler he is easy to carry but if he is with someone like Atrain, then he is brutal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 It's not all that bad of a move, as it helps to balance some things out on the face side (SD has enough strong faces and Raw's only got one or two right now), and Edge has pretty much been groomed for a top spot since 99 or so, so there's less of a chance of him being buried like RVD and the like. I'd rather him stay on Smackdown, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Smackdown desperately needs a fresh persona on their show. But I guess Triple H is hungry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Austin's right. SD! is fucking dead. Say Guerrero wins at NWO and then goes on to beat Angle. Who does he face then? Cena? Rhyno? Big Show? None of them interest me as they have either been done or the challenger would simply not be up to a World title match (i.e. Rhyno or Cena). UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Si82, I doubt that Edge coming to Raw would automatically throw him into the World Heavyweight Championship picture, and even if he was, it appears that if he gets a shot, it will be against Chris Benoit. And by the way, Edge is already incredibly over. I'm just going on the basis of the reports that have been floating around about how Triple H wants Edge to come to Raw to feud with him. And I didn't say that Edge wasn't over I said he had a good fan base, which he does. Mind you, RVD has once hot but Triple H changed that. Then again I do hate Triple H and I agree with the rest of your opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 RVD's heat went south when people realised he is a repetitive, boring, over-rated piece of crap. HHH did his part in exposing that, but he isn't soley responsible for Van Dam being the way he is. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 RVD's heat went south when people realised he is a repetitive, boring, over-rated piece of crap. HHH did his part in exposing that, but he isn't soley responsible for Van Dam being the way he is. UYI And in other news Osama Bin Laden will run for president of the United States. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 I applaud your counter-argument Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 We're just all fed up arguing with you, it's totally pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 It's because I'm always right, isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Not exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 What's the deal with everyone turning on edge all of a sudden? If I'm not mistaken, wasn't everyone here singing his praises while he was on the DL? Not me, i always thought Edge was always riding on the coattails of the Smackdown 5.If he is with the right wrestler he is easy to carry but if he is with someone like Atrain, then he is brutal. This 'riding off the coattails of the other SD6' arguement is tired. I can't believe some of you people actually think that Edge was the weak link. Does the name "Chavo Guererro" ring a bell? If fingers are being point to who the weak link of the SD6 was, I think Chavo's the one to point it at. I can't remember a memorable singles match with Chavo since he's been in the company. I can for Edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Unlike Edge, CC, Chavo has never been given an opportunity to shine in any way. His ultra-hot feud with Eddie was cut tragically short, it was headed in the right direction at the Rumble, but there was just not enough time for it to develop. It is unfair to compare Chavo to Edge in that manner. Besides, Chavo has proven towards the end of WCW that he is more than worthy of his praise, carrying the Cruiserweight division on his back until the death of WCW. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 Unlike Edge, CC, Chavo has never been given an opportunity to shine in any way. His ultra-hot feud with Eddie was cut tragically short, it was headed in the right direction at the Rumble, but there was just not enough time for it to develop. It is unfair to compare Chavo to Edge in that manner. Besides, Chavo has proven towards the end of WCW that he is more than worthy of his praise, carrying the Cruiserweight division on his back until the death of WCW. UYI Alright, you're right: Chavo has never been given a proper shot. But, while it may just be my bias, during the SD 6 era, Edge was performing significantly better than Chavo. Even in tag matches, where they both got the same shot, sort of speak. This isn't anything against Chavo by any means, but I don't beleive it's fair to claim Edge as the weak link of the team. To make this relevant to the topic somewhat, I'm a little surprised they are going through with this. Unless they have a huge trade soon, Smackdown will look second-rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 I enjoy Edge but what I don't understand is why he would come back and be put right in at the top of the card. He's very good but I don't see how he can just come back and jump on top of a show he has never been a part of. If you want to do it for Smackdown, ok that makes sorta sense since he was upper mid card when he was hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 It's because I'm always right, isn't it? Nah, it's just a waste of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 I hate to resort to cheap heat, but "you can't spell overrated without RVD". Not as horrible as people say, but I cannot see him as a main eventer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 13, 2004 I still think they should move Helms to Smackdown and have him drop the Hurricane crap. Sugar Shane, Paul London, Kidman, Tajiri, Noble, Nunzio, Tajiri's mafia-esque group...right there is your stellar CW division. Then move Chavo and Mysterio up to US Title ranks. From there you can slowly build them into being World Champion status competitors. Mysterio is jacked enough where he can be seen as more than a CW and Chavo isn't too small. In the future you would be looking at having Chavo, Eddy, Mysterio, Brock, Show, Cena, Angle(if he doesn't retire after WM XX) in your Main Event stable and I bet you could mix and match those individuals quite well. Smackdown does have the talent to get past not having Edge, they just aren't utilising it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 You expect the WWE to build up Rey as World Champ material? *Ahem* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH~! WHOOOOOO~! THAT WAS A GOOD ONE! *Wipes away tears* No, seriously, I needed that........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PowerPB13 Report post Posted February 13, 2004 I still think they should move Helms to Smackdown and have him drop the Hurricane crap. I don't understand why people think that Helms needs to drop the "Hurricane" persona. It distinguishes him from the more generic cruiserweights and it's an entertaining gimmick. ADDED: On top of that, the Hurricane gimmick is very marketable...look at all the stuff he has on Shopzone: Shirts, masks, capes, etc. Rosey needs something different, granted...he's extremely agile for his size, but the sidekick thing isn't doing much for him. -Patrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 13, 2004 You expect the WWE to build up Rey as World Champ material? *Ahem* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH~! WHOOOOOO~! THAT WAS A GOOD ONE! *Wipes away tears* No, seriously, I needed that........ I don't expect them to do that. I'm just saying if they had intelligent people running stuff they could. I'll see Matt Morgan come back from injuries and proceed to kick, punch, clothesline, and body slam his way to a World Title run before they give Rey a shot with the people who are in charge right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites