The official Dawn of the Dead 1979/2004 thread

[Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20]

Why ?

[Vyce 0]

That was Richard Cheese btw.

 

He has also done Rage against the Machine, Linkin Park and LB.

Is that Richard Chees who did "Lounge Against the Machine"?

[Downhome 0]

There are times when characters just don't click with me, and this one is just one of those instances.

[LJSexay 0]

while it could never replace the original in it's genius...

 

this movie was amazing. I couldn't stop laughing my ass off, and screaming on occasion. yay for social activities

[Guest JMA]

I don't think it was his performance, maybe you just don't like him as an actor.

No, it isn't him as an actor or his performance.

 

I just despised his character.

Why did you hate him exactly?

 

Edit: Sorry. I see you've already answered it. I posted right after you did, it seems.

[Downhome 0]

Why did you hate him exactly?

I don't know really. Like I said, the character just didn't "click" with me.

[Youth N Asia 0]

*skipping everything in the thread for now*

 

Going to the 7:35 PM showing tonight at the theatre behind my house

[2GOLD 0]

That was Richard Cheese btw.

 

He has also done Rage against the Machine, Linkin Park and LB.

Is that Richard Chees who did "Lounge Against the Machine"?

 

Yes, yes it was.

 

It's from his newest album.

[theintensifier 0]

God damnit! The biggest cinema around me isn't playing it yet....ARGH

[Bruiser Chong 0]

Why did you hate him exactly?

I don't know really. Like I said, the character just didn't "click" with me.

How can a character who has a handful of scenes in a movie not click with you? I found nothing at all offensive or unappealing about his character. There were other characters in the movie that I disliked much more than him.

 

As for the actual movie, I'm not a big horror fan (although I wouldn't consider most of these movies horror since contrary to popular belief, gory doesn't = horror), but this was more like a comedy, as most people have pointed out. There were instances where some people in the theatre jumped or even screamed, but overall, I wouldn't say this was anything more than a dark and gory comedy.

 

As an aside, I was pretty upset to see a fucking child who couldn't have been more than four or five in the theatre as we left. It may not be my place to speak, but what sort of shitty parent takes their child to a movie of that nature? It wasn't scary but it sure as hell was gory and to a child, it may have been scary. So many parents are fucked up and have no right raising a child.

[2GOLD 0]

Why did you hate him exactly?

I don't know really. Like I said, the character just didn't "click" with me.

How can a character who has a handful of scenes in a movie not click with you? I found nothing at all offensive or unappealing about his character. There were other characters in the movie that I disliked much more than him.

 

As for the actual movie, I'm not a big horror fan (although I wouldn't consider most of these movies horror since contrary to popular belief, gory doesn't = horror), but this was more like a comedy, as most people have pointed out. There were instances where some people in the theatre jumped or even screamed, but overall, I wouldn't say this was anything more than a dark and gory comedy.

 

As an aside, I was pretty upset to see a fucking child who couldn't have been more than four or five in the theatre as we left. It may not be my place to speak, but what sort of shitty parent takes their child to a movie of that nature? It wasn't scary but it sure as hell was gory and to a child, it may have been scary. So many parents are fucked up and have no right raising a child.

 

A mom brought in her four children ranging 5 to 10 and those kids were also laughing at this movie.

 

Maybe we got a different cut cause people were calling stuff before it would happen and then laughing when it happened. It just wasn't gory enough for me, I want to see some up close zombies eating humans.

 

I felt like I was in Jay and Strike Bob Strike Back people were laughing so hard. No one screamed, just laughed harded with each death. Someone suggested that the Benny Hill theme should have been playing in the chase scene and I can't disagree.

 

I LOVE the hilarity of this movie but I can't see it holding up well next week. When you tell people you have never laughed harder at a HORROR film, they tend to head to see something else. If anything, this movie has hurt Romero's chances of getting funding for making another zombie film very very badly since he may not want any part of the slapstick style.

[dubq 0]

If anything, this movie has hurt Romero's chances of getting funding for making another zombie film very very badly since he may not want any part of the slapstick style.

I'm not going to start an arguement here, so please don't take offense 2GOLD. But, "slapstick style" ? C'mon. I know it's a matter of opinion and perception and all that.

 

But this wasn't like Jim Carrey doing Ace Ventura or the Mask. I can see the "dark comedy" comparison, but the some people are describing it, it was tons o' laughs from start to finish - which, IMO, it wasn't.

 

I mean, nevermind the fact that comedy is a staple of the horror genre in the first place... [Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc, etc] ...but people are acting as if the original had no laughable moments whatsoever, which is 100% wrong. If anything, there were MORE comedic moments in the original than in this one.

 

...and as for funding, I'm given the impression that to the casual fan this was a great movie. The box office results obviously show this. The group I went to see this with weren't zombie movie fans whatsoever and they all thought it was a great movie. I'm hoping that this shows the executives out there that the zombie genre is worth a resurrection from the pits of crap that it was associated with for years [ie: Michael Jackson's Thriller] and that with a little tweaking [as seen in Dawn 2004] it can be good horror/suspense genre again.

 

Sorry, I tend to get a little ranty on these things...

[2GOLD 0]

Sorry, I couldn't think of another word for the style it was.

 

But this isn't the type of Romero will even think of making. He won't and he's too damn stubborn for his own good.

 

I doubt he'll do the running zombies, which is what most studios will want now. I don't know, I think this hurt his chances for funding his movie but opened a new door for the "Shaun of the Dead" film.

 

I still say RE2 does much better than this film so I'm paying closer attention to it than this one now.

 

I did enjoy this film and yes, I know the original was loaded with comedy. But the original also had the grosser moments and the more graphic zombie eating humans that got George the dredded rating for a damn good while there. Damn MPAA

 

I hope this movie holds up in the second weekend and doesn't drop to third like I'm expecting it too.

[dubq 0]

I'm crossing my fingers for RE2 as well. But, I guess it's because I've been such a huge zombie genre fan since the day I can remember that I get so "ranty" on these subjects. Sorry if it sounded like I'm pissed, because I'm not.

 

Have you seen anything in regards to the Australian film "Undead" ? We had a screening up here on Thursday in only one theatre, but I didn't find out about it until it was too late. I heard it was pretty sick.

[Bruiser Chong 0]

So 2GOLD, you're saying it's okay for children that age to see any gore? Hell, I know it was pretty light on the gore, but children that age shouldn't be exposed to any sort of gore whatsoever. Yeah we're living in a more messed up society than in years past, but does that really mean that a kindergartner should be watching a guy have his neck ripped out?

[dubq 0]

So 2GOLD, you're saying it's okay for children that age to see any gore? Hell, I know it was pretty light on the gore, but children that age shouldn't be exposed to any sort of gore whatsoever. Yeah we're living in a more messed up society than in years past, but does that really mean that a kindergartner should be watching a guy have his neck ripped out?

I think it all depends on the maturity [regardless of their age] of the child involved.

[2GOLD 0]

I'm crossing my fingers for RE2 as well. But, I guess it's because I've been such a huge zombie genre fan since the day I can remember that I get so "ranty" on these subjects. Sorry if it sounded like I'm pissed, because I'm not.

 

Have you seen anything in regards to the Australian film "Undead" ? We had a screening up here on Thursday in only one theatre, but I didn't find out about it until it was too late. I heard it was pretty sick.

 

Don't worry about it. I actually am very defensive of the slow zombies horror gore although I'd really like to see the slow and fast combined into one film. Like maybe the ones who came out of the ground are slow while the humans bite by the slow ones are the fast ones. Which would make sense and I still for the life of me can't figure out WHY that isn't how they worked DAWN.

 

I've heard about "Undead" but I haven't seen it. I hear mostly it's a comedy but it has it's gory moments. Depends what you are looking for.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Ok, so I've had this film recommended to me, but here's the thing: I generally don't like/watch zombie movies. In fact, I say the end of Day of the Dead the other day (About from the time that guy opens the gate and lets the zombies rip him up) and the start of some other zombie movie for the very first time.

 

My problems with the movies were that I didn't understand why anything was happening (I guess it's my own fault on the first one, but I saw the other movie START and they didn't explain anything) and there was too much of what I thought was senseless gore. Like, I can see using gore in movies, but there had to be like, a 10-minute scene of just zombies eating flesh. That I did not enjoy, because I thought it was just pointless.

 

That said...does this new zombie movie have any semblence of a plot (I guess it does from what I've read here, but do they actually explain stuff in the film, or is it all guesswork on your parts?) and do they spend a lot of time on just pointless gore? I kinda wanna see it, but I don't wanna end up watching a movie that's just gonna piss me off by being poorly explained and needlessly gorey.

[2GOLD 0]

So 2GOLD, you're saying it's okay for children that age to see any gore? Hell, I know it was pretty light on the gore, but children that age shouldn't be exposed to any sort of gore whatsoever. Yeah we're living in a more messed up society than in years past, but does that really mean that a kindergartner should be watching a guy have his neck ripped out?

 

Kids aren't like us anymore. Like Vivisectvi said, it depends on the maturity. And if the parent is there, I'm actually more encouraged by that since they are taking a place in the kids life.

 

Is it the best movie? No, but maybe the parent explained some things after the film.

 

I wasn't too happy with the mom who LEFT her 12 and 14 yr old and then came back when it was over. Those parents I like much less.

[dubq 0]

Don't worry about it. I actually am very defensive of the slow zombies horror gore although I'd really like to see the slow and fast combined into one film. Like maybe the ones who came out of the ground are slow while the humans bite by the slow ones are the fast ones. Which would make sense and I still for the life of me can't figure out WHY that isn't how they worked DAWN.

I've been thinking of that a lot lately too.

 

Like, ways to explain fast vs slow.

 

Fast = just "turned" - therefore rigormortis hasn't set in yet so they can move just like they did when they were alive, but only for a limited time as they begin to decay more.

 

Slow = "aged" zombies.. ie: they've been zombies longer, rigormortis has set in, the limbs are atrophied and it's harder for them to move.

[2GOLD 0]

That said...does this new zombie movie have any semblence of a plot (I guess it does from what I've read here, but do they actually explain stuff in the film, or is it all guesswork on your parts?) and do they spend a lot of time on just pointless gore? I kinda wanna see it, but I don't wanna end up watching a movie that's just gonna piss me off by being poorly explained and needlessly gorey.

 

Has a plot, why the zombies are alive isn't explained or attempted to be explained.

 

Not very gory in the zombie parts, mostly some of the random human deaths are but nothing you wouldn't have seen in KILL BILL.

 

Yes, why the dead are up and walking requires some guesswork but it is just supposed to be a movie about mass chaos so no one can explain it.

[dubq 0]

That said...does this new zombie movie have any semblence of a plot (I guess it does from what I've read here, but do they actually explain stuff in the film, or is it all guesswork on your parts?) and do they spend a lot of time on just pointless gore? I kinda wanna see it, but I don't wanna end up watching a movie that's just gonna piss me off by being poorly explained and needlessly gorey.

There is a plot. If you mean about HOW the zombies came about. Well, not really in that sense. There is a small mention in one segment, but I think that the director left it up to the audience to use their imagination, which is perfectly acceptable from my vantagepoint.

 

The MAIN plot, however, isn't about why there are zombies, but how those left alive are going to survive and escape from them.

[2GOLD 0]

Don't worry about it. I actually am very defensive of the slow zombies horror gore although I'd really like to see the slow and fast combined into one film. Like maybe the ones who came out of the ground are slow while the humans bite by the slow ones are the fast ones. Which would make sense and I still for the life of me can't figure out WHY that isn't how they worked DAWN.

I've been thinking of that a lot lately too.

 

Like, ways to explain fast vs slow.

 

Fast = just "turned" - therefore rigormortis hasn't set in yet so they can move just like they did when they were alive, but only for a limited time as they begin to decay more.

 

Slow = "aged" zombies.. ie: they've been zombies longer, rigormortis has set in, the limbs are atrophied and it's harder for them to move.

 

Yes, exactly!

 

I don't like the full sprint all the time zombies, but I could accept it if they had some kind of understanding behind them such as you explained.

 

But the ones coming out of the ground in full running mode? That is just can't see since they are mostly decaying muscle and bone.

[dubq 0]

But the ones coming out of the ground in full running mode? That is just can't see since they are mostly decaying muscle and bone.

Agreed. Return of the Living Dead had that, but I didn't mind so much since that one was DEFINITELY intended to heavy be on the comedic side.

 

Zombie feasting on a paramedic: "Send more paramedics!"

 

I wonder if this version of Dawn will warrant it's own original sequel? Kind of like how the Ring is getting it's own sequel.. [ie: has nothing to do with the Japanese Ringu 2] I guess it all depends on it's staying power at the BO next week.

[buffybeast 0]

Speaking of Resident Evil 2, does anyone know when it is scheduled to come out this year???

[2GOLD 0]

Speaking of Resident Evil 2, does anyone know when it is scheduled to come out this year???

 

The release date has been pushed back a few times

 

The last one I heard was September 10.

 

I think the chances of a sequel depend on the holdover. If it keeps more than 50% of it's audience (which it should) then yeah, they might go with a indirect sequel.

 

But if I recall, isn't everyone on the planet basically DEAD by the end of Dawn? Even the emergency broadcast system was out by that point.

[tpww7 0]

Saw this last night, really really enjoyed it. Sometime tommorow I'm gonna pickup the original and watch it.

[Coffin Surfer 0]

"So 2GOLD, you're saying it's okay for children that age to see any gore? Hell, I know it was pretty light on the gore, but children that age shouldn't be exposed to any sort of gore whatsoever."

 

Bullshit, In the early and mid 80s I was raised on violent action and horror movies, and I turned out alright...I think. Besides it really depends on the individual.

 

Anyway, saw the movie last night, and I have mixed feelings on it. About the comedy thing, yes the original had alot of it too. But the original also had a nice feeling of dread and impending doom, that wasn't really as present in this film. So it's fairly easy to see why some people take it lightly, and even consider it a total black comedy. Even if both movies share humor, the tone of the two films is just totally different, at least from my perspective.

 

As a stand alone film, I thought it was decent. I don't think I'll rent or buy it or anything, but if I was to catch it on T.V. by chance, I would probably watch it again.

[Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20]

What program could I use to download this ?

 

Another 3-6 months or so till the DVD will probably be released ? Damn it, I can't wait that long.

[Guest JMA]

They could always explain why the zombies are "alive" in a sequel; seeing as this one has done so well there is a good possibility of one being made. To me, the explanation doesn't really matter. Experiment gone wrong? Act of God? It isn't that important. I especially enjoyed the trapped and isolated feeling this film gave off.

 

Maybe in the sequel they could show what the world would be like after the dead have overridden it.