bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 If he wants to use 9/11 in his ads, fine, at least stop stonewalling the investigation commission and answer some damn questions. It's amazing to me that someone can use 9/11 in political ads yet refuse to fully co-operate in an investigation of the very same 9/11. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted March 8, 2004 If he wants to use 9/11 in his ads, fine, at least stop stonewalling the investigation commission and answer some damn questions. It's amazing to me that someone can use 9/11 in political ads yet refuse to fully co-operate in an investigation of the very same 9/11. He doesnt have to!!! FDR didnt testify about Pearl Harbor!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaertos 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 I've read this whole thread, and I think it will make it much easier on everyone when we realize one simple fact: No politician that has run for president since I have been of voting age (12 years now) has had anything but their own best interests in mind. Call me cynical, but I doubt that any of them was running for president thinking about how they could help the people of this country. And for that matter, I doubt anyone who has millions of dollars in cash in the bank gives a flying fig about the working man busting his hump for 10 or 12 bucks an hour. So far, I have seen very little evidence to support the theory that anyone running for the Presidency is an honest upstanding guy. And the sad truth is America doesn't want honesty. We want outlandish promises that say you are going to cut taxes and spend more (blatant lie), that you will institute National Health Care (not-as-blatant, but still a lie) and that you really want what is best for the country. No, what they really want is to be re-elected for a second term, then live high on the hog the rest of their lives. So frustrating... I forget who said this, but I firmly believe it: "Those who wish to rule are the least qualified. Those most qualified are the least likely to actually attempt to do the job." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted March 8, 2004 If he wants to use 9/11 in his ads, fine, at least stop stonewalling the investigation commission and answer some damn questions. It's amazing to me that someone can use 9/11 in political ads yet refuse to fully co-operate in an investigation of the very same 9/11. Gulliani said it pretty nicely on Meet the Press this sunday, if Bush can answer all the chairman's questions in an hour does he need more? I say wait till he's done testifying and if the comission wants more time then we can see what Bush will do when push comes to shove. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted March 8, 2004 If he wants to use 9/11 in his ads, fine, at least stop stonewalling the investigation commission and answer some damn questions. It's amazing to me that someone can use 9/11 in political ads yet refuse to fully co-operate in an investigation of the very same 9/11. Gulliani said it pretty nicely on Meet the Press this sunday, if Bush can answer all the chairman's questions in an hour does he need more? I say wait till he's done testifying and if the comission wants more time then we can see what Bush will do when push comes to shove. Yeah but didnt Bush say that he wouldnt testify? "testify? Oh I dont know... I would be glad to VISIT with them" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted March 8, 2004 Nope, as I said before he's limited it to an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 Nope, as I said before he's limited it to an hour. They should say that it is a 10k per plate fundraising dinner...he'd clear more time from his schedule then. I think that is the only way to get any polictition to sit still for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted March 8, 2004 Nope, as I said before he's limited it to an hour. They should say that it is a 10k per plate fundraising dinner...he'd clear more time from his schedule then. I think that is the only way to get any polictition to sit still for a while. Heh heh... Though to be a nitpicking asshole, no one can give 10k to any campaign directly (and indirectly is getting more difficult thanks to McCain-Feingold). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 I've read this whole thread, and I think it will make it much easier on everyone when we realize one simple fact: No politician that has run for president since I have been of voting age (12 years now) has had anything but their own best interests in mind. Call me cynical, but I doubt that any of them was running for president thinking about how they could help the people of this country. And for that matter, I doubt anyone who has millions of dollars in cash in the bank gives a flying fig about the working man busting his hump for 10 or 12 bucks an hour. So far, I have seen very little evidence to support the theory that anyone running for the Presidency is an honest upstanding guy. And the sad truth is America doesn't want honesty. We want outlandish promises that say you are going to cut taxes and spend more (blatant lie), that you will institute National Health Care (not-as-blatant, but still a lie) and that you really want what is best for the country. No, what they really want is to be re-elected for a second term, then live high on the hog the rest of their lives. So frustrating... I forget who said this, but I firmly believe it: "Those who wish to rule are the least qualified. Those most qualified are the least likely to actually attempt to do the job." Well yeah, pretty much. I would disagree however that "all" politicians don't care about the working man, however they know what they have to do to get elected, and that is just promise this and that, point out the great things that happened in our country that probably had little to do with them in the first place, blame the "other guy" for everything wrong. Not to say that 3rd party members are 100% clean, but this is why I really want to see more then a Democrat & Republican debating in November, because the 2 big parties are pretty much signed, sealed, and delivered to corporate interests locally and globally upon winning the election, and that goes for Democrats AND Republicans alike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 I believe there is a bit of a political storm surrounding the 9/11 commission thing, no matter how you spin it. Bless McCain for giving them more time, which made other Republicans nervous because it puts the findings closer to the election, and any possibility of some outrageous finding could put their main man's chances in jeopardy. GASP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2004 I've read this whole thread, and I think it will make it much easier on everyone when we realize one simple fact: No politician that has run for president since I have been of voting age (12 years now) has had anything but their own best interests in mind. Call me cynical, but I doubt that any of them was running for president thinking about how they could help the people of this country. And for that matter, I doubt anyone who has millions of dollars in cash in the bank gives a flying fig about the working man busting his hump for 10 or 12 bucks an hour. So far, I have seen very little evidence to support the theory that anyone running for the Presidency is an honest upstanding guy. And the sad truth is America doesn't want honesty. We want outlandish promises that say you are going to cut taxes and spend more (blatant lie), that you will institute National Health Care (not-as-blatant, but still a lie) and that you really want what is best for the country. No, what they really want is to be re-elected for a second term, then live high on the hog the rest of their lives. So frustrating... I forget who said this, but I firmly believe it: "Those who wish to rule are the least qualified. Those most qualified are the least likely to actually attempt to do the job." Well yeah, pretty much. I would disagree however that "all" politicians don't care about the working man, however they know what they have to do to get elected, and that is just promise this and that, point out the great things that happened in our country that probably had little to do with them in the first place, blame the "other guy" for everything wrong. Not to say that 3rd party members are 100% clean, but this is why I really want to see more then a Democrat & Republican debating in November, because the 2 big parties are pretty much signed, sealed, and delivered to corporate interests locally and globally upon winning the election, and that goes for Democrats AND Republicans alike. certainly the best thing about third parties is being able to follow candidates that actually speak from their own hearts and minds... very few of the big two seem capable of this, for exactly the same reasons as you listed. The Jesse Ventura Era in Minnesota was, at the very least, interesting because he wasnt so indebted to the special interests. And, for me anyway, thats why Ive followed Harry Browne's(Libertarian pres. nominee) campaigns the past several years...much all of his money has come directly from regular-joe supporters making small donations and doing personal campaigning on his behalf. But of course, Im anti-Bush = Democrat...so why am I talking about these zany third party people and independants?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
