Austin offcially gone from WWE

[humongous2002 0]

Austin giving Shelton a"verbal blowjob" means that he finally put somebody over then that makes him Mother Theresa in my book.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

Owen Hart, for one.

 

Rumor had it that Austin said he'll never work with the guy after SS'97.

Umm... did you happen to catch a little PPV called Summerslam? Do you really blame the guy? You want to blame someone for Owen's career, blame the Kliq (who had no legit excuse to avoid working with him like Austin did), blame Vince for not having faith in him, hell even blame Bret for leaving and and putting Owen in the postion to take the fallout.

 

I'll repeat the question: when did Austin ever ruin the career of a GOOD wrestler?

 

All this Austin hate is annoying, and its always the same corny, cliched reasons. "OMG he went over heel midcarders and took their heat by stunning them!" Good, because most of them suck anyway. "What kind of a message does it send to hurt Stacy for not drinking the beer wha wha!" It says next time she better drink the damn beer if she knows what's good for her. Stop taking everything so serious; it was meant to be funny.

 

And LOL at the idea of Austin having bad matches in 2001, all because your favorite guys didn't get the win. Austin had great matches with everyone he got in the ring with that year. He also made Angle and Benoit look like better threats than anyone who faced them before, including your beloved Rock.

 

As for leaving and not putting anyone over, his last televised appearance was helping to build up Shelton Benjamin (what people here would call a verbal blowjob if it was done to any Evolution member).

 

Always remember kiddies: at the end of the day,

 

Austin > your favorite wrestler

Chris Jericho.

 

Rumor has it that during Jericho's early 2002 mega-push Austin conspired with HHH to make sure Jericho didn't go over. Now, while I'll admit this is only a rumor, it is supported by how Austin made Jericho look at NWO.

 

So, because you think these midcard heels suck, Austin has every right to cut their legs from underneath them and tarnish their image? Remember the time GM Austin made Jericho look like a fool week after week? Or how about the time the ENTIRE SD ROSTER backed away from Austin? And Kiebler getting stunned was as much fun as watching Triple Kane screw a corpse. That is, not fun. And why should a guy with a history of abusing women give a defenseless girl a stunner for not drinking beer? That's not funny, that's damn scary.

 

Listen, it's obvious you think highly of Austin, and there's nothing wrong with that. Austin has done a lot for this business, his recent past aside. But to say Austin is better than any other wrestler past or present and then to insult others for disagreeing is ignorant.

[Guest Adrian 3:16]

Chris Jericho.

 

Rumor has it that during Jericho's early 2002 mega-push Austin conspired with HHH to make sure Jericho didn't go over. Now, while I'll admit this is only a rumor, it is supported by how Austin made Jericho look at NWO.

Well, at least you admit its just a rumor, unlike some people here. But still... let's say it was true. Did it ruin Jericho's career? No. Did it do nearly as much damage to his image as Steph and HHH did? No.

 

And it cracks me up how I always hear about Rock trying to make Jericho look like a star, until mean old Austin came along and ruined everything. Jericho never beat the Rock clean either. At their Rumble 02 match, Jericho pinned him using the ropes, and he had his boys Storm and Christian run in. And the "not a joke" promo seemed to me as much a verbal dressing down as HHH is accused of his in his promos. Don't get me wrong, I like Rock, but call a spade a spade.

 

So, because you think these midcard heels suck, Austin has every right to cut their legs from underneath them and tarnish their image?

 

Yes, actually. Most of these guys don't entertain me, or at least not as much as Austin did even in the later years. And it always cracks me up how I'll see people here droning on and on about how much they hate Test, Steiner, Orton, Dupree, and so on and so on but as soon as they take a Stunner its the end of the world. You can't have it both ways.

 

And the SD roster did NOT let Austin through out of fear, its because they were sick of Brock and Heyman and WANTED to sic Austin on them. I didn't see a look of terror in Big Show's eyes as he enthusiastically waved Austin into the ring with a huge grin on his face.

 

And the Stacy thing wasn't that big a deal. I thought it was stupid how she submitted the next week and drank the beer, but the actual Stunner was funny (I thought so anyway). And if JR was a hypocrite and made excuses for his favorite- no kidding! JR sucks behind the booth and has for years now. Don't blame Austin on JR's incompetence.

 

And I'm not going out of my way to insult anybody, but people are going out of their way to judge and insult Austin and its over things they know nothing about. (his personal life, alleged backstage behavior, etc)

 

At least Brock was a little more PROFESSIONAL about it and giving them the God damn courtesy of letting them know ahead of time unlike Austin

 

Oh yeah, he gave them a whopping 2 weeks. What a guy.

 

Moreover, when Austin left they had no big plans for him anyway. In fact it seemed like Vince was trying to phase him out and piss him off as much as possible. With Brock, he was the anchor of Smackdown; him leaving really left them high and dry. Look at the shambles that show is in now. Austin was getting depushed anyway, fighting X-Pac and hanging out with Bradshaw while Hogan and HHH were being pushed as the stars.

 

And I really don't care how professional either guy was about leaving, and neither should you. All that matters is what we see on TV. Just like I couldn't watch Austin on my TV then, you can't watch Brock on your TV now. That's what you should be concerned about, not how much notice he gave.

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There is a seperate one for the "Stone cold" Beer

[Scroby 0]

Oh yeah, he gave them a whopping 2 weeks. What a guy

 

Oh yeah you know because this is what your suppose to do when you quit a job.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Oh yeah, he gave them a whopping 2 weeks. What a guy.

 

Yeah, because its better to do it that way so they know what to write for the next show instead of writing shit at the very last minute when your guy who you have plans for the night isn't there.

[Scroby 0]

Oh yeah, he gave them a whopping 2 weeks. What a guy.

 

Here's the differance between Austin and Lesnar...

 

Lesnar: I'm not really happy here and I want to move on to other things so I'm going to give you my two week notice.

 

Austin: Screw you guys, I'm going home.

 

See the differance?

[Guest Adrian 3:16]

Oh yeah, he gave them a whopping 2 weeks. What a guy

 

Oh yeah you know because this is what your suppose to do when you quit a job.

An ordinary job, yes. But Brock Lesnar didn't have some 9 to 5 desk job. He was the number one star on Smackdown. When you write entire shows around a character and you already have plans for him, 2 weeks might not be enough to salvage the direction of the show. Granted Smackdown doesn't have the world's greatest creative team... but that's a subject for another thread.

 

And yes, some of those plans may have involved jobbing to Taker. Cry me a river. Better men than him have lost to Taker (Bret, HBK, Foley, Austin, Angle, hell even HHH). And none of them got to steamroll over the whole promotion in their rookie year either- not even HHH before anyone tries to compare. Everyone has to go down sometime. If Lesnar couldn't accept that, he was in the wrong business.

 

Here's the differance between Austin and Lesnar...

 

Lesnar: I'm not really happy here and I want to move on to other things so I'm going to give you my two week notice.

 

Austin: Screw you guys, I'm going home.

 

See the differance?

 

No no, you're not understanding me.

 

I see the difference just fine, its just that I don't CARE.

 

The result is the same, the respective performer off TV. What the hell do I care how they went about doing it? Does it affect you and me as the viewer? Has the reverse never happened where WWE screwed over a wrestler's career?

 

Besides, people quit jobs with no notice and walk all time. Right or wrong, its sticking it to the man and that's what people do in moments of impulse. Austin wasn't the first and he won't be the last. I've done it once, its not really a big deal. Life goes on.

[SuperJerk 0]

I see the difference just fine, its just that I don't CARE.

Then you're completely ignoring a key piece of evidence.

 

Not the best way to sound rational.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

And the Stacy thing wasn't that big a deal. I thought it was stupid how she submitted the next week and drank the beer, but the actual Stunner was funny (I thought so anyway). And if JR was a hypocrite and made excuses for his favorite- no kidding! JR sucks behind the booth and has for years now. Don't blame Austin on JR's incompetence.

 

It was a big deal at the time because you have a wrestler who had just been in the public spotlight for hitting his wife. Then he's out there giving a woman a stunner cause she wouldn't drink beer with him after saving her from a beating by Steiner. Then you have JR,who will damn a wrestler to hell if he even looks at a woman wrong, excuses what Austin did because "that's Stone Cold and that's just the why he is." And the the following week Stacy learns her lesson and drinks the beer, JR acts like it was the right thing to do and all is happy in WWE land.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

So, because you think these midcard heels suck, Austin has every right to cut their legs from underneath them and tarnish their image?

 

Yes, actually. Most of these guys don't entertain me, or at least not as much as Austin did even in the later years. And it always cracks me up how I'll see people here droning on and on about how much they hate Test, Steiner, Orton, Dupree, and so on and so on but as soon as they take a Stunner its the end of the world. You can't have it both ways.

 

And the SD roster did NOT let Austin through out of fear, its because they were sick of Brock and Heyman and WANTED to sic Austin on them. I didn't see a look of terror in Big Show's eyes as he enthusiastically waved Austin into the ring with a huge grin on his face.

 

And the Stacy thing wasn't that big a deal. I thought it was stupid how she submitted the next week and drank the beer, but the actual Stunner was funny (I thought so anyway). And if JR was a hypocrite and made excuses for his favorite- no kidding! JR sucks behind the booth and has for years now. Don't blame Austin on JR's incompetence.

 

And I'm not going out of my way to insult anybody, but people are going out of their way to judge and insult Austin and its over things they know nothing about. (his personal life, alleged backstage behavior, etc)

I'll give you the whole SD roster thing, since you could interpret things that way. But for the most part your argument seems to be, "Well Austin did do anything wrong because I think he didn't." The reason, as EKII mentioned, that Austin stunning Stacy looked bad was that Austin has been brought up on spousal abuse charges (that isn't assuming anything, he has).

[Guest Adrian 3:16]

I see the difference just fine, its just that I don't CARE.

Then you're completely ignoring a key piece of evidence.

 

Not the best way to sound rational.

Evidence? I didn't realize I was on trial.

 

I simply stated my case: yes Austin walked out 2 years ago without giving notice, and no I don't particularly care or hold it against him. There's nothing irrational about it.

 

I love how this is a forum where people will (random example) hate Randy Orton because he's better looking than them, and I'm the irrational one. Go figure.

 

And EdwardKnox, I believe I already said I thought it was stupid when Stacy smiled and drank the beer a week later and how JR justified it. Do my posts not show up properly on everyone's screen or something?

 

As for stunning Stacy after saving her from Steiner, don't forget that a lot of people bitched how GM Austin was too much of a crowd pandering babyface that only gave problems to heels and wasn't the DTA Austin of old. When he turned on Stacy that WAS your vintage Austin right there. That was the appeal of his character in the old days, he didn't care who you were and just didn't give a fuck. That's what made him who he is.

 

And if you're that sensitive about Stacy getting stunned, just be glad you never watched ECW. And what about when the Dudleys were putting woman after woman through tables? Hell, that's what LED to their face turn it became so popular, and JR tried justifying it then too after being aghast at it weeks earlier. Hypocracy from WWE announcers is nothing new, don't blame the wrestlers.

 

Anyway, when Austin powerbombs an 80 year old woman off the entrance ramp into a table, feel free to get back to me.

[JasonX 0]

Umm... did you happen to catch a little PPV called Summerslam?  Do you really blame the guy?  You want to blame someone for Owen's career, blame the Kliq (who had no legit excuse to avoid working with him like Austin did), blame Vince for not having faith in him, hell even blame Bret for leaving and and putting Owen in the postion to take the fallout.

So it's ok for Austin to fuck over Owen like that but it's bad if the Kliq does it?

 

Talk about being in denial....

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

And EdwardKnox, I believe I already said I thought it was stupid when Stacy smiled and drank the beer a week later and how JR justified it.  Do my posts not show up properly on everyone's screen or something?

 

As for stunning Stacy after saving her from Steiner, don't forget that a lot of people bitched how GM Austin was too much of a crowd pandering babyface that only gave problems to heels and wasn't the DTA Austin of old. When he turned on Stacy that WAS your vintage Austin right there. That was the appeal of his character in the old days, he didn't care who you were and just didn't give a fuck. That's what made him who he is.

 

And if you're that sensitive about Stacy getting stunned, just be glad you never watched ECW. And what about when the Dudleys were putting woman after woman through tables? Hell, that's what LED to their face turn it became so popular, and JR tried justifying it then too after being aghast at it weeks earlier. Hypocracy from WWE announcers is nothing new, don't blame the wrestlers.

 

Anyway, when Austin powerbombs an 80 year old woman off the entrance ramp into a table, feel free to get back to me.

No you said you didn't see what big deal about Austin stunning Stacy was. And their were bigger problems with it then Stacy drinking a beer the next week.

 

And, by the way, I don't have a problem with a wrestler hitting a woman. I have a problem with Austin, WHO WAS BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES OF HITTING HIS WIFE, doing that angle. He shouldn't have been doing an angle like that after all the shit he did in his real life had been put in the spotlight like it was. If Austin had never been charged with hitting his wife I wouldn't have had a problem with it. But, he did and he never should have done that angle.

[Guest Adrian 3:16]

Umm... did you happen to catch a little PPV called Summerslam?  Do you really blame the guy?  You want to blame someone for Owen's career, blame the Kliq (who had no legit excuse to avoid working with him like Austin did), blame Vince for not having faith in him, hell even blame Bret for leaving and and putting Owen in the postion to take the fallout.

So it's ok for Austin to fuck over Owen like that but it's bad if the Kliq does it?

 

Talk about being in denial....

Owen was not "fucked over" by it first of all, because there weren't plans for him to fued over the title with Austin to begin with. There WERE plans for a HBK feud, which Shawn vetoed. Then he moved down the DX food chain, from HBK to HHH to X-Pac, and lost every time.

 

And Owen broke Austin's fucking neck, and from all accounts didn't even act particularly sorrowful for it. How the hell is Austin a bad guy for not wanting to work with him after that? Would you?

 

Say Droz could walk again and eventually get back in the ring. Is he pure evil if he went to TNA and didn't want to wrestle D'lo again?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Austin giving Shelton a"verbal blowjob" means that he finally put somebody over then that makes him Mother Theresa in my book.

*Remembers Austin losing numerous times to HHH and putting over Rocky in the IC title feud*

 

His interaction with RVD didn't exactly hurt him either.

[CanadianChick 0]

Austin giving Shelton a"verbal blowjob" means that he finally put somebody over then that makes him Mother Theresa in my book.

*Remembers Austin losing numerous times to HHH and putting over Rocky in the IC title feud*

 

His interaction with RVD didn't exactly hurt him either.

Agreed. I don't like Austin, but RVD's interaction with Austin helped Rob. Of course, Austin hurt more wrestlers than he helped IMO.

[Scroby 0]

Evidence? I didn't realize I was on trial.

 

I simply stated my case: 

 

Are you reading what you are writing?

 

And Owen broke Austin's fucking neck, and from all accounts didn't even act particularly sorrowful for it. How the hell is Austin a bad guy for not wanting to work with him after that? Would you?

 

Say Droz could walk again and eventually get back in the ring. Is he pure evil if he went to TNA and didn't want to wrestle D'lo again?

 

1. Owen didn't do it on purpose.

2. Austin has even stated himself at Owen being sorry but Austin was mad because Owen didn't call him all the time to ask Austin how he was doing.

3. Accidents like that in wrestling happen all the time, and Austin is partically at fault too for that piledriver. He exposed to much of his head and had his head to low in Owen's legs. The person reciving the piledriver is suppose to hike his head up as high as he can in the tighs of the person giving the piledriver. So it is like a 50/50 thing.

4. Austin isn't wrong saying he didn't wanna work with Owen to, but it was mainly because he was scared that it might happen again.

5. Droz has stated that he knows it wasn't D'lo's fault and that happens in wrestling from time to time, thats the risk of the job. I never ever heard of Droz saying that he wouldn't work with D'lo again if he was able to regain the ablity to walk.

[Fökai 0]

1. Owen didn't do it on purpose.

 

He also didn't apologize for it, accident or not.

 

2. Austin has even stated himself at Owen being sorry but Austin was mad because Owen didn't call him all the time to ask Austin how he was doing.

 

And your point is? Owen didn't call during the fall of 1997 - Bret (in his RF shoot) admitted that Austin was justified in hating Owen at this point in time.

 

3. Accidents like that in wrestling happen all the time, and Austin is partically at fault too for that piledriver. He exposed to much of his head and had his head to low in Owen's legs. The person reciving the piledriver is suppose to hike his head up as high as he can in the tighs of the person giving the piledriver. So it is like a 50/50 thing.

 

Utter bullshit. Owen admitted he changed his mind in mid-move and dropped SCSA on his head - instead of a 'knees-back' piledriver, Owen hit a 'sit-out' variation of the move. If Austin "hiked" up his head, Austin would've been dropped on his spine. Austin's ENTIRE head was exposed, which should never happen in a piledriver sequence.

 

5. Droz has stated that he knows it wasn't D'lo's fault and that happens in wrestling from time to time, thats the risk of the job. I never ever heard of Droz saying that he wouldn't work with D'lo again if he was able to regain the ablity to walk.

 

I'd imagine he'd say different if he had a big push lined up for him and had his career potentially taken away by the carelessness of a worker.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Austin giving Shelton a"verbal blowjob" means that he finally put somebody over then that makes him Mother Theresa in my book.

*Remembers Austin losing numerous times to HHH and putting over Rocky in the IC title feud*

 

His interaction with RVD didn't exactly hurt him either.

Agreed. I don't like Austin, but RVD's interaction with Austin helped Rob. Of course, Austin hurt more wrestlers than he helped IMO.

Billy Gunn, Jarrett, Lesner a guy who wound up leaving the WWE in the dust when they really needed him...

 

Thanks Steve.

[Toxxic 0]

As for stunning Stacy after saving her from Steiner, don't forget that a lot of people bitched how GM Austin was too much of a crowd pandering babyface that only gave problems to heels and wasn't the DTA Austin of old. When he turned on Stacy that WAS your vintage Austin right there. That was the appeal of his character in the old days, he didn't care who you were and just didn't give a fuck. That's what made him who he is.

 

How do you not get this?

 

Austin Stunnered a woman after having highly public charges over domestic abuse. Not just a woman, but a non-wrestling woman (OK, Stacy's been in what, 3 non bra-and-panty matches since being in the WWE? Coach has been in more, and i wouldn't call him a wrestler). If he'd attacked Jazz or Victoria that'd be different - they're seen as wrestlers.

 

Even worse - THIS WAS DURING A PERIOD WHERE AUSTIN COULDN'T TOUCH ANYONE. He had to be PHYSICALLY PROVOKED to lay a finger on anyone. And each week, someone would do just that (accidentally) and he'd whoop them. STACY NEVER TOUCHED HIM. She just didn't want to drink beer. And somehow, a woman not wanting to drink beer has the same effect as physcially provoking him because Austin Stunnered her AND JR LOVED IT. If there had been any continuity, Austin would have been "fired" for that little exchange. But he wasn't, and the next week Stacy came out and drank the beer.

 

Is it really true that you can't see the wrongness of this situation? The WWE, like virtually all narratives, works on the basis that the good guy always wins in the end. Austin here HAS to be seen as the "bad guy" (attacking a non-combatant without provocation when he'd have needed provocation to be able to attack anyone else, up to and including the top guys on the roster who would be seen as being able to defend themselves), but there was NEVER the payoff. Instead, he is portrayed as being in the right.

 

 

If it had been a wrestler who hadn't had recent domestic abuse charges, it would have been better. If the wrestler who'd done it had later been "fired", beaten up or some sort of payback, it would have been better. Even if Stacy hadn't come out the next week, smiled and drunk the beer it would have been better.

 

I'm well aware that this is fictional, but there's a difference between, say, two wrestlers who are both known to be trained professionals tearing each other up in a deathmatch, and portraying the assault of a defenceless person as a good, applaudable act.

 

And no, I don't think the Dudleys should have been allowed to get away with it either. But unless I'm wrong, they were at least villified by the announcers. If they weren't they should have been, and all this applies to them too.

[SuperJerk 0]

Evidence? I didn't realize I was on trial.

Actually, in a courtroom scenario, you'd be the lawyer for Austin. Lawyers are the ones who usually try to have evidence dismissed.

 

I was saying you weren't sounding rational for saying you acknowledge the existence of about the key piece of evidence regarding the difference between Lesnar and Austin (i.e. two weeks notice), while at the same time choosing to dismiss it by simply saying you didn't care.

 

If we were identifying logical fallacies, this is what's known as "invincible ignorance".

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Didn't Austin break someones neck in Japan by doing the piledriver? I'm sure Austin calls him weekly.

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I was saying you weren't sounding rational for saying you acknowledge the existence of about the key piece of evidence regarding the difference between Lesnar and Austin (i.e. two weeks notice), while at the same time choosing to dismiss it by simply saying you didn't care.

But... I don't care. What would you rather I do, lie about it?

 

And I'm not Austin's lawyer, because he's not on trial either. This is a message board on the internet, not a court of law. And notice I never said Austin went about leaving the right way, my point is giving a mere 2 weeks notice before the biggest PPV of the year isn't a hell of a lot better, for all you Brock groupies out there.

 

And MikeofEvil, I'm not even gonna get in a point by point discussion with you because you just repeat the exact same argument almost word for word multiple times in multiple threads. You're like a damn parrot. I will say though that the announcers absoutley flip flopped on the Dudleys putting women through tables after the face turn. I really don't see how you could've been watching at the time and missed that.

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My problem with Austin stunnering Stacy wasn't because she was a woman, but because she was a woman would *wouldn't drink with him*. Then, the next week, she did. Moral of the story?

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But... I don't care.  What would you rather I do, lie about it?

No, but not caring makes you look closed-minded.

 

If you want to pursuade people that you're correct, you'll need to present a better argument than "that doesn't matter because I don't care".

 

And I'm not Austin's lawyer, because he's not on trial either.  This is a message board on the internet, not a court of law.

Looks like someone was sick the day they explained metaphors in English class.

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And MikeofEvil, I'm not even gonna get in a point by point discussion with you because you just repeat the exact same argument almost word for word multiple times in multiple threads.  You're like a damn parrot.

 

Yeah, but if I changed my argument from thread to thread I wouldn't have an argument. I keep saying the same thing because I think it's true, and because you have yet to field an argument of your own that convinces me I am wrong.

 

I will say though that the announcers absoutley flip flopped on the Dudleys putting women through tables after the face turn.  I really don't see how you could've been watching at the time and missed that.

 

I wasn't. If that's true, then the same shit applies about the Dudleys. But quite apart from all that, I wouldn't mind seeing them leave anyway.

 

 

Basically, I tried to explain my argument in a different way (without changing the argument itself) because I find it difficult to believe that you can't see my point. Either I can't do that well enough, or you just don't want to be convinced. Either way, i'm prepared to leave it here - you don't care about wrestlers beating up defenceless people, I'm a whiny bitch who can't separate fact from fiction. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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5. Droz has stated that he knows it wasn't D'lo's fault and that happens in wrestling from time to time, thats the risk of the job. I never ever heard of Droz saying that he wouldn't work with D'lo again if he was able to regain the ablity to walk. 

 

 

 

I'd imagine he'd say different if he had a big push lined up for him and had his career potentially taken away by the carelessness of a worker.

 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I read that the accident was caused by Droz shifting his weight while D'Lo was running with the powerbomb, thus causing D'Lo to lose his balance, which surely doesn't mean D'Lo was being careless in this situation.

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I also could be wrong, but I'm sure I've read that the accident was caused by something on the ring that made D'Lo slip and drop Droz. Anyone got a semi-convincing testimonial on why it happened?

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Did someone already do this?

 

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