True or False

[Guest Korgath]

Statement #1:

The WrestleMania XX main event was the best main event in WrestleMania history.

 

Batista: I don't think I can pick one.  But that (match at WrestleMania XX) was an awesome spectacle.  It was awesome.

 

Triple H: False.  So many great events, it'd be impossible to pick one.

 

Statement #2:

Because he's a legend killer, Randy Orton will inevitably want to "kill" legends like Ric Flair and Triple H, eventually.

 

Batista: I would have to say true on that.  Everything comes full circle.  I think he's going to be looking to knock off everybody who has a reputation, eventually.

 

Triple H: False.  Randy knows it's easy to go from the hunter to the hunted, and he knows where his bread is buttered.

 

Statement #3:

Looking good cosmetically is more important than looking good in the ring.

 

Batista: False.  From experience, that's definitely false.  Being physically impressive has always been my strong point.  But inexperience in the ring has hurt me.  If you have both, then the sky's the limit.  I've kind of done everything backwards.  Most guys get in the ring first and then build their bodies.  I built my body first and then got in the ring.  Hopefully, one day my ring work will catch up to my physical ability. 

 

Triple H: False.  See Lex Luger.  Can you say stink-a-roo?

 

 

Statement #4:

Younger Superstars should be getting more TV time.

 

Batista: Definitely false.  Guys that are on top are on top for a reason.  Guys who are younger and are still learning the craft need to work their way up, pay their dues and earn that TV time.  It's not something that should be given to anyone just because they're young and new.

 

Triple H: False.  Younger Superstars should be earning more TV time.  Nothing should be given to anyone.

 

Statement #5:

The Lakers will win the NBA Championship.

 

Batista: I haven't been following this season at all.  But true, because I just don't see Minnesota or Indiana winning.

 

Triple H: Could be true.  It depends on the amount of time the team spends in the penal system.

 

 

Statement #6:

Not counting Evolution, the Four Horsemen were the best faction in wrestling history.

 

Batista: True.  Their reputation proceeds them, but I was also a huge fan of DX.  DX is definitely up there with the Four Horsemen.  That's a pretty bold statement, and I don't know if I should say that.  But DX is more of my generation.

 

Triple H: Not counting Evolution?  True.  Although DX would come in a tight second.

 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Especially when Trips mentioned Luger.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Triple H: False.  Younger Superstars should be earning more TV time.  Nothing should be given to anyone.

[dubq 0]

Triple H: False.  Younger Superstars should be earning more TV time.  Nothing should be given to anyone.

[Youth N Asia 0]

So HHH thinks people shouldn't be given things. And Batista thinks guys should pay their dues for getting tv time...

 

interesting

[dubq 0]

So HHH thinks people shouldn't be given things. And Batista thinks guys should pay their dues for getting tv time...

 

interesting

He said younger 'superstars'...

 

Let the reading too much into things begin! [trademark TSM]

[Guest netslob]

Batista: False.  From experience, that's definitely false.  Being physically impressive has always been my strong point.  But inexperience in the ring has hurt me.  If you have both, then the sky's the limit.  I've kind of done everything backwards.  Most guys get in the ring first and then build their bodies.  I built my body first and then got in the ring.  Hopefully, one day my ring work will catch up to my physical ability.

 

at least he admits he's still room to improve...gotta give him props for that.

 

Triple H: Could be true.  It depends on the amount of time the team spends in the penal system.

 

ouch...zing!

 

Triple H: False.  Younger Superstars should be earning more TV time.  Nothing should be given to anyone.

 

sad thing is he probably doesn't even realize the irony of this statement...poor delusional bastard.

[dubq 0]

Triple H: False.  Younger Superstars should be earning more TV time.  Nothing should be given to anyone.

 

sad thing is he probably doesn't even realize the iropny of this statement...poor delusional bastard.

Yeah, cuz, he was handed everything as a younger superstar. Those jobs to Jake Roberts and the Warrior really skyrocketed his career early on.

[Guest netslob]

yeah, well, he's sure recovered from that, hasn't he?

[ISportsFan 0]

Yeah, cuz, he was handed everything as a younger superstar. Those jobs to Jake Roberts and the Warrior really skyrocketed his career early on.

How about beginning in summer of 1999, when he had previously had one ****+ match in his entire career (Rock at SummerSlam 1998, which coincidentily needed a ladder), he got a push that included beating Rock at Fully Loaded (with interference, mind you, but beating him nonetheless when Rock was really popular), Mankind on RAW for the WWF title, winning a 6 pack challenge to win the title again against 4 bigger names than him (and Bulldog, too), beating Steve Austin at No Mercy, marrying the boss' daughter in the hottest storyline of the year, beating Vince McMahon in a 30 minute match where they got to roam the entire building to build heat for the match, beating Big Show to win the WWF title again, beating Mick Foley (as Cactus Jack) in bloodbaths at both the Royal Rumble and No Way Out (his first two awesome matches in this timeframe) to retire a legend, and becomming the first heel to walk out of WrestleMania with the world title ever.

 

All that based on the fact he had 1 ****+ match in his life before the push, and his looks. He really earned his TV time. Of course, he ended up being a phenominal wrestler in 2000-2001, and he's starting to regain it, but he didn't earn his push by any means.

 

Jason

[Guest netslob]

yeah~!

[TheFranchise 0]

That shot at Luger was out of the blue.

 

good though.

[haVoc 0]

Yeah, cuz, he was handed everything as a younger superstar. Those jobs to Jake Roberts and the Warrior really skyrocketed his career early on.

How about beginning in summer of 1999, when he had previously had one ****+ match in his entire career (Rock at SummerSlam 1998, which coincidentily needed a ladder), he got a push that included beating Rock at Fully Loaded (with interference, mind you, but beating him nonetheless when Rock was really popular), Mankind on RAW for the WWF title, winning a 6 pack challenge to win the title again against 4 bigger names than him (and Bulldog, too), beating Steve Austin at No Mercy, marrying the boss' daughter in the hottest storyline of the year, beating Vince McMahon in a 30 minute match where they got to roam the entire building to build heat for the match, beating Big Show to win the WWF title again, beating Mick Foley (as Cactus Jack) in bloodbaths at both the Royal Rumble and No Way Out (his first two awesome matches in this timeframe) to retire a legend, and becomming the first heel to walk out of WrestleMania with the world title ever.

 

All that based on the fact he had 1 ****+ match in his life before the push, and his looks. He really earned his TV time. Of course, he ended up being a phenominal wrestler in 2000-2001, and he's starting to regain it, but he didn't earn his push by any means.

 

Jason

He was with the company 4 years up to that point. He was really popular in DX & DX made Vince a ton of money. He was popular, had a great look and worked his way up.

 

He also paid dues (for his and others mistakes) to get that push at a time Vince was gun ho on making new superstars.

[dubq 0]

^^^ what he said..

[BX 0]

yeah~!

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

The other point of the "younger guys need to earn TV time" is that creative never has anything for the younger guys to do, and even if the young guys come up w/ something, it likely gets "taken under consideration"

 

If they can't get on TV, they can't get over, and thus can't "earn their shot". Unless, of course, you are Vince Approved .

[razazteca 0]

Statement #5:

The Lakers will win the NBA Championship.

 

Batista: I haven't been following this season at all.  But true, because I just don't see Minnesota or Indiana winning.

 

Triple H: Could be true.  It depends on the amount of time the team spends in the penal system.

Conformist.

[ISportsFan 0]

He was with the company 4 years up to that point. He was really popular in DX & DX made Vince a ton of money. He was popular, had a great look and worked his way up.

 

He also paid dues (for his and others mistakes) to get that push at a time Vince was gun ho on making new superstars.

Matt Hardy has been with the company 6ish years up to this point. He made the company a lot of money in the Hardy Boyz tag team with his brother, and both members of the team were popular (not just Jeff). He is popular, worked the tag division toward the top of the card with stellar matches, and has a pretty decent look. He worked his way up the card too, and can have very good matches.

 

Should Matt Hardy be a main event player? Probably not. But he has just as much going for him now as HHH did back in 1999 (great gimmick, better matches than HHH had before his ridiculous push). He should at least be given TV time, because he earned it.

 

Don't get me wrong--they made the right decision pushing HHH. Absolutely made the right decision. But he hasn't earned it more than anyone else that doesn't get pushed.

 

And how about Randy Orton? HHH's protege. About one year with the company, and he gets to beat Mick Foley twice in 2 months and has 20 minute matches on PPV. He gets tons of TV time, and I don't think he earned any of it. Sure, he had 2 good/great/awesome matches at WM and Backlash, but he didn't "earn" the time to have those matches.

 

Jason

[Guest JMA]

Kudos to Batista to admitting his faults. That's a very big thing thing to do.

 

Hopefully he WILL improve soon.

[Guest Trivia247]

Batistia will Spine Buster his Dues then Break his wrist when the ref raises his hand in victory

[Guest BillyTheStud]

Should Matt Hardy be a main event player?

I don't see why not.

[Guest Adrian 3:16]

I give Batista a lot of props for striving to improve and not being content to just coast by on his muscles. I told people here he's a cool guy.

 

LOL at HHH taking a shot at Luger out of nowhere.

 

And HHH did not get everything handed to him in his early years. Its fine to not like him but let's give the Revisionist History 101 a rest shall we?

[Guest M. Harry Smilac]

Triple H: Not counting Evolution?  True.  Although DX would come in a tight second.

 

Horseman > NWO > DX

 

Evolution hasn't even been or done anything remotely interesting yet.

[haVoc 0]

Don't get me wrong--they made the right decision pushing HHH. Absolutely made the right decision. But he hasn't earned it more than anyone else that doesn't get pushed.

Doesn't matter if he earned it more or less then others. Doesn't matter if his push was bigger then others, past and present. All I'm saying is Triple H did earn a push and like you said, it paid off.

[ISportsFan 0]

Doesn't matter if he earned it more or less then others. Doesn't matter if his push was bigger then others, past and present. All I'm saying is Triple H did earn a push and like you said, it paid off.

But it does matter if he earned it more or less than others. HHH's quote was to the effect of people have to earn the TV time they get. And, let's face it, he didn't earn main event TV time by July-August 1999 when he started getting it. He had earned TV time, no doubt about it. But his match quality was not at the level of a main eventer, and his interview skills at that point were all comedy-based. His blood feud with the Rock in 1998 was based on his mockery of the Nation with DX.

 

I said his push paid off. That is true. But to say he earned the push he got is unrealistic and ridiculous.

 

To say Randy Orton earned his push is ridiculous. To say Matt Hardy doesn't deserve any push is ridiculous. But, the prevailing argument I'll make here is that HHH did NOT earn the push he got. He earned a push, yeah, but not the legend-push he got.

 

Jason

[Guest Coffey]

You know, it's not all about match quality in the WWE. If some of you bastards haven't caught on to that yet, you're just plain delusional.

 

I thought this was the best True or False yet.

[King Cucaracha 0]

He didn't earn a push?

 

Being one of the most over wrestlers in the company doesn't earn you a push? I'd say it would. Hell, you say he wasn't having main event level matches...it was 1999. Match quality wasn't as big of a deal as being over, having charisma and having the potential to cut promos.

 

 

Oh...and credit to Batista for admitting his faults. He has improved when you look at him a year ago, and has had decent matches recently with the right opponents...but still, he's not a great wrestler, and he's admitted it.

[Guest Nater]

Having great matches should be more important than earning them. Otherwise, it would be like putting your eggs in one basket instead of on your plate.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Triple H: False.  See Lex Luger.  Can you say stink-a-roo?

 

Lex who? Anyway I was watching on Smackdown this past week and Mark Jindrak has the most awesome gimmick ever!!!! He comes to the ring where there is this mirror and he tot.............

[ISportsFan 0]

I agree, it's not all about match quality.

 

HHH had shown no ability to do any promos other than comedic ones in 1998, when he was supposedly earning his stripes. His biggest feud ever's main selling point was when his faction did a comedy skit about his rival's faction.

 

1999's main eventers before HHH were Mick Foley, Steve Austin, and the Rock. The Undertaker was also up there, as was Vince McMahon. The thing all these 5 have in common is that their interview skills were varying. They could do comedy, and they could also do anger and serious promos to sell matches. HHH couldn't do that. Also, 3 of them could work very well and the Undertaker had ****+ matches with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels in 1997, and had good matches against Steve Austin in 1998.

 

HHH had a ring presence, a look, and he had charisma. But he didn't EARN the push he got. He couldn't work in the ring at the level of most of the other main eventers, and what he lacked there (that Foley/Rock/Austin had) he couldn't make up in promos.

 

The push worked out well. But it's so stupid of HHH to say something like that when his push was so out of proportion to his ability level at both the ring and the mic.

 

If anything, it proves that people that are given opportunities (that have some potential, like HHH did) can improve vastly and become a major player. He improved in almost every category between summer 1999 and January 2000. Look at Randy Orton. He didn't earn his push, but he's improving drastically over the 8-10 months since he's been pushed out of this world.

 

I think that young guys don't earn TV time and it's given based on looks and what the company feels is potential. Of course, Billy Gunn also "earned" his push in 1999, and Bradshaw and Holly "earned" their pushes this year by making all that money. But, I don't think HHH thinks that, and he is blinded by his vision of the company.

 

It's a self-fufilling prophecy to tell people they have to earn TV time and then give them no TV time to earn it with. And, even when someone does earn it (like Matt Hardy) still doesn't get it and someone who had no experience in WWE (Randy Orton) gets a push over a 10 month period that culminates in retiring Mick Foley again, basically. And HHH is the one that basically picked Orton to be his protege.

 

In summary, HHH not only didn't have the ring work, like people are saying I'm asserting, but he also didn't have the serious mic skills either. He could do comedy, but that's about it. He learned how to be a serious heel while doing it, not because he was qualified to do it beforehand.

 

Jason

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Statement #6:

Not counting Evolution, the Four Horsemen were the best faction in wrestling history.

 

Triple H: Not counting Evolution?  True.  Although DX would come in a tight second.