Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted May 1, 2004 I'm guessing you can't count Mr America at Judgement Day '03. I had blocked that out of my head forever. Thanks alot man Now I remember Zach Gowen too... and Roddy Piper... noooooooooooo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Notorious CRD Report post Posted May 1, 2004 Mikey Whipwreck made his WCW debut on a PPV but for the life of me I can't remember which one it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DR PHIL Report post Posted May 1, 2004 You're right, Jericho did face Alex Wright a few feeks before Fall Brawl. I just looked it up, and Jericho's WCW debut was against Mr. JL on August 20, 1996. Jericho's match against Alex Wright happened six days later on Nitro. But would it have been televised or a house show? And mikey debuted at uncensored 99 against kidman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dazed Report post Posted May 1, 2004 The Big Show first appeared on WWF television at St Valentine's Day Massacre, in '99. Whether or not that counts as a debut is up to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted May 1, 2004 You're right, Jericho did face Alex Wright a few feeks before Fall Brawl. I just looked it up, and Jericho's WCW debut was against Mr. JL on August 20, 1996. Jericho's match against Alex Wright happened six days later on Nitro. But would it have been televised or a house show? And mikey debuted at uncensored 99 against kidman. It was a taping for WCW Saturday Night. Now that I think about it, the match probably aired at a later date, so you were right- Jericho's first WCW television appearance was against Alex Wright on Nitro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2004 The Big Show first appeared on WWF television at St Valentine's Day Massacre, in '99. Whether or not that counts as a debut is up to you. I suppose that counts, although, wasn't his PPV wrestling debut at WrestleMania the month after? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2004 The Big Show first appeared on WWF television at St Valentine's Day Massacre, in '99. Whether or not that counts as a debut is up to you. I suppose that counts, although, wasn't his PPV wrestling debut at WrestleMania the month after? No, he already lost to Austin by then, IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2004 I mean his first PPV match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2004 I mean his first PPV match. Right you are Bond. Didn't catch that the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2004 Ken Shamrock's *official* first WWE match was during 1997's In Your House in May, I believe. Tho he wrestled an "exhibition" against preliminary scrub Vernon White on Raw the week before. To be technical... "the nWo Sting" made his wrestling debut at Fall Brawl 1996. I know he was the Cobra, but the gimmick/new entity debuted in the ring there. Oh yeah! Curt Hennig made his WCW wrestling debut in 1997 at Bach at the Beach, tagging with DDP against Hall and Savage. Rocco Rock made his WCW wrestling debut at the 1990 Starrcade. Sgt. DeClerk, I believe. Wasn't Fred Ottman's wrestling debut in WCW (as Shockmaster) at the 1993 WarGames? And Gorgeous George (the valet)'s WCW debut occurred at the 1999 Slamboree. Same with Little Naitch. Undertaker at the 1990 Survivor Series...dunno if that got said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2004 And Gorgeous George (the valet)'s WCW debut occurred at the 1999 Slamboree. Didn't Miss Mona (aka Molly Holly) debut at the same PPV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2004 My mistake. Rocco Rock did NOT make his wrestling debut for WCW at the 1990 Starrcade in that ridiculous tag tournament as the evil South African, Col. DeClerk. He and his partner actually wrestled the "finals of the South Africa tournament" to qualify for the PPV at the Clash of the Champions before Starrcade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2004 Headhunters made their WWE debut at the Royal Rumble in...uh...95 or 96....96, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeathBecomesYou Report post Posted May 3, 2004 And Gorgeous George (the valet)'s WCW debut occurred at the 1999 Slamboree. Didn't Miss Mona (aka Molly Holly) debut at the same PPV? Not in a match though, Mona just accompanied Savage, George and Madusa to ringside. Also, speaking of Molly, she made her official in ring debut as Molly Holly at the 2000 Survivor Series in a 6 person tag where she teamed with Crash and Steve Blackman to face Test, Albert and Trish. Molly got the win by pinning Trish with a sunset flip. Technically though, Nora Greenwald had appeared first in WWE as Starla Saxton on an episode of Heat in late 1998 too. As well, Steve Blackman made his in ring debut for WWE on a PPV, not sure which one though, in an 8 man tag where he teamed with Vader, Goldust and someone else to face Doug Furnas, Phil Lafon, Owen Hart and Davey Boy Smith in late 1997. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted May 3, 2004 That'd be Survivor Series 1997 where he got counted out since "he didn't know the rules." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted May 3, 2004 As someone mentioned the 1990 Starrcade, would Konnan and Norman Smiley count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Addy 0 Report post Posted May 3, 2004 What about Giant Gonzalez? I know he first came in at Royal Rumble '93, but he didn't wrestle. Did he wrestle anytime before his match against 'Taker at Wrestlemania 9? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J0bber Report post Posted May 8, 2004 What about Giant Gonzalez? I know he first came in at Royal Rumble '93, but he didn't wrestle. Did he wrestle anytime before his match against 'Taker at Wrestlemania 9? I think he squashed a few jobbers before WM 9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Do a ton of the TNA guys count? Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 That'd be Survivor Series 1997 where he got counted out since "he didn't know the rules." Steve screwed Steve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and Rock all debuted at Survivor Series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2004 Did Steve Austin's in ring debut as The Ringmaster come at Royal Rumble 97, or did he have matches before then? I know he had a Raw Intro Segment where DiBiase gave him the Million Dollar Championship...but I'm not sure if he had any matches between those two periods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2004 Did Steve Austin's in ring debut as The Ringmaster come at Royal Rumble 96, or did he have matches before then? No. He wrestled at least one jobber match before the Rumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2004 Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and Rock all debuted at Survivor Series. How the fuck did I forget Kurt? *slams head into the door Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DR PHIL Report post Posted May 9, 2004 On the stone cold dvd, there's an extra of his match as the ringmaster against scott taylor a day before the rumble ppv so yeah papcita's right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coolclint 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2004 Rumble '95: Harris Bros. (as Jacob and Eli Blu) and Henry Godwinn debuted in the Rumble match. Rumble '96: Vader, as previously mentioned. That's all I remember right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2004 Survivor Series 1999: Kurt Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites