ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Apparently it's Benoit/Kane according to the latest reports from commercials there. Benoit/Kane and the HIAC. WHAT? That makes absolutely no sense. Kane can't even beat Edge, or Undertaker, and hasn't won on PPV since last year's, what, Unforgiven or Survivor Series? That's ridiculous if Kane is in the co-main event with Benoit. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I hope this doesn't mean Benoit falls for Lita as well... its perfectly okay for a Raw Main event but not the first one one one ppv defense. Wow. If you told me 10 months ago that CHRISTIAN would be better for a main event slot then Kane...I would have laughed...then laughed again when you said it was Benoit defending the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 They need to shit or get off the pot with Kane already. They constantly build him up only to tear him down, and he keeps going through transformations and becomes and monster and becomes more of a monster--does it even mean anything anymore? I have confidence if Kane's motivated he can have a good match with Benoit (hell, if Angle and Albert could, he should). Although that means that very shortly they're going to have to push Kane as a title threat. It's hard to see that happening when he's hardly been near the title in a hell of a long time except for that disasterous Katie Vick angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I just wonder if this is will be another round of Triple H/HBK where HBK no sells 25+ minutes of damage, only to be praised as GOD ALMIGHTY afterwards, when any other worker no selling five minutes of mat work would be damned straight to hell. With that said. The match should be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 The only reason why Vince would make Benoit defend the World Title against Kane is because Kane is a Hoss, BAH GAWD! And we all know that Vince just LOVES his Hosses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I just went through my memory bank to see Kane's credentials for this PPV main event. Since beating Shane McMahon (an awesome feat indeed) at Survivor Series 2003... He lost in a triple threat match with HHH and Goldberg at Armageddon. He lost in a Royal Rumble. He lost at WrestleMania to Undertaker. He lost at Backlash to Edge in under 7 minutes. Definitely a PPV caliber main eventer at this point. I hope this commercial is wrong. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 5, 2004 we've known Commercials to be wrong before but they are usually right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Jericho's won-loss record isn't really any better. But he's about to end a feud whereas Kane is starting one with someone else. Jericho fits in better with the current main players than Kane and the match would be better and it's already been hinted that he's at least going to get a title shot or a match with HHH at some point soon, even if it's not on PPV. We'll see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Since beating Shane McMahon (an awesome feat indeed) at Survivor Series 2003... He lost in a triple threat match with HHH and Goldberg at Armageddon. He lost in a Royal Rumble. He lost at WrestleMania to Undertaker. He lost at Backlash to Edge in under 7 minutes. Definitely a PPV caliber main eventer at this point. But...but...he squashed Hurricane, Steven Richards, and is gonna beat Matt Hardy!! Anyway, yeah, basically a more in depth explanation of my gripe. In general, though, it's messed up anyway. There's the "main eventers" who challenge each other for the title, there are the handful of guys waiting in the wings who get title shots once in a while, then there's everyone else. Title shots are pretty arbitrary. You may get a #1 contendership match even if you blew your last title shot and haven't had a major win in a long time, then sometimes you do NOTHING to warrant it at all and the match ends up booked anyway. *shrug* There is the Rumble I guess, and occasionally a guy will rack up a ton of wins and get a title shot, but that's rare. There's rarely any logical progression up the ladder like WCW tried to fake back in the day. I miss the WCW Top Ten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 just remember card subjects always can change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 If it is Benoit/Jericho, I think another question is, will Flair/Batista, Christian/Tomko or somebody try to make Bischoff force Benoit & Edge to defend the tag titles that night as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Apparently it's Benoit/Kane according to the latest reports from commercials there. Benoit/Kane and the HIAC. Well, of course, I'd rather have Chris Jericho, but Kane would be an excellent opponent. He finally gets another welll deserved title shot, he'll still be the monster, its a great choice against Benoit and that is much much better than Christian, come on now. It would also build up Benoit as a strong champion by defeating the monster and what a sight it would be in seeing Benoit make Kane tap out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 So far, every PPV this year has produced a MOTYC. I have a feeling that particular run will be broken fairly soon, barring some Cruiserweight-based miracle at Judgement Day. I thought the same thing at Backlash, and got proven wrong again, and No Way Out had the worst card in years. So now I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt. When they do me wrong, I'll bitch again. But one thing you have to agree on, the PPVs this year have so far delivered. I'm considering retiring from watching wrestling, but I might just quit the free shows and watch PPVs only instead if they can keep this up (they can't.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 5, 2004 That's cool with me. I like the Kane character and Benoit will be able to get at least *** 1/2 out of him. HHH vs HBK HIAC will be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Im surprised they don't just break down and have all 4 in the HIAC. Benoit vs Jericho vs HHH vs HBK Then they can get around that "Final Encounter" thing from the triple threat match at Backlash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JacK Report post Posted May 5, 2004 But . . . but . . . Kane lost to Tajiri on RAW . . . Tajiri lost to Coach on Pay Per View . . . therefore Coach > Kane. It's simple logic. . . Kane looks like a joke right now, if they were going to make him into a title contender then having him beat Edge at Backlash would've been a must. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I always thought Kane vs. Benoit would be an interesting match to headline, or co-headline a PPV. Sure, Kane's been...punished for some reason lately, but he can still be a good opponent for Benoit when booked right. (ex: Unstoppable monster). It seems like they are going through the "Squash the undercard" routine again, and will probably destroy Jericho or some other really over upper-card babyface, like he did RVD @ Summerslam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 So far, every PPV this year has produced a MOTYC. I have a feeling that particular run will be broken fairly soon, barring some Cruiserweight-based miracle at Judgement Day. I thought the same thing at Backlash, and got proven wrong again, and No Way Out had the worst card in years. So now I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt. When they do me wrong, I'll bitch again. But one thing you have to agree on, the PPVs this year have so far delivered. I'm considering retiring from watching wrestling, but I might just quit the free shows and watch PPVs only instead if they can keep this up (they can't.) Well except NWO had a Main Event between a GREAT worker and a good worker, Backlash had two GREAT workers and an average worker who can be carrried. Everyone knew those matches would at least be good, if not great. The Main Event for JD is between a great worker, who is working injured, and a TERRIBLE worker, who hasn't had a 15 minute match in his life! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 The title match should always be the main event I dont care if its Essa Rios defending the world title against Mighty Mouse, it should always be the last match on the card. So Bob Holly vs. Brock Lesnar should have gone on last at Rumble? I agree that the championship match should be the mian event of the card for both brands shows. The champions should be the men that are the example of the brands and should be given the main event slot of the single brand shows. The rumble is an exception in that the actual rumble match itself should be placed last on the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 So far, every PPV this year has produced a MOTYC. I have a feeling that particular run will be broken fairly soon, barring some Cruiserweight-based miracle at Judgement Day. I thought the same thing at Backlash, and got proven wrong again, and No Way Out had the worst card in years. So now I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt. When they do me wrong, I'll bitch again. But one thing you have to agree on, the PPVs this year have so far delivered. I'm considering retiring from watching wrestling, but I might just quit the free shows and watch PPVs only instead if they can keep this up (they can't.) Well except NWO had a Main Event between a GREAT worker and a good worker, Backlash had two GREAT workers and an average worker who can be carrried. Everyone knew those matches would at least be good, if not great. The Main Event for JD is between a great worker, who is working injured, and a TERRIBLE worker, who hasn't had a 15 minute match in his life! Who are you talking about here? I'd personally say HHH and HBK are both better workers than Lesnar, especially in big PPV matches. Anyway, you basically made the point I was going to make, i.e. that both No Way Out and Backlash each had two matches that you could see reasonably hitting ***-****: Rey/Chavo, Eddie/Brock, Foley/Orton and the Triple Threat. What does Judgement Day have? So far there's been, what, 3 matches booked - and I'll be surprised if any of them hit **1/2. Right now, I'd rather just watch an episode of Raw than JD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 So far, every PPV this year has produced a MOTYC. I have a feeling that particular run will be broken fairly soon, barring some Cruiserweight-based miracle at Judgement Day. I thought the same thing at Backlash, and got proven wrong again, and No Way Out had the worst card in years. So now I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt. When they do me wrong, I'll bitch again. But one thing you have to agree on, the PPVs this year have so far delivered. I'm considering retiring from watching wrestling, but I might just quit the free shows and watch PPVs only instead if they can keep this up (they can't.) Well except NWO had a Main Event between a GREAT worker and a good worker, Backlash had two GREAT workers and an average worker who can be carrried. Everyone knew those matches would at least be good, if not great. The Main Event for JD is between a great worker, who is working injured, and a TERRIBLE worker, who hasn't had a 15 minute match in his life! Who are you talking about here? I'd personally say HHH and HBK are both better workers than Lesnar, especially in big PPV matches. Anyway, you basically made the point I was going to make, i.e. that both No Way Out and Backlash each had two matches that you could see reasonably hitting ***-****: Rey/Chavo, Eddie/Brock, Foley/Orton and the Triple Threat. What does Judgement Day have? So far there's been, what, 3 matches booked - and I'll be surprised if any of them hit **1/2. Right now, I'd rather just watch an episode of Raw than JD. HBK is definitely a better worker than Brock, no contest there. But Triple H hasn't impressed me in the least. He's had great matches because he's in there with great workers who make ANYBODY they face look better than they really are. I don't think he's improved at all, he's simply in there with better talent. I mean RVD, Booker and Goldberg are no Benoit, Micheals and Tajiri, sorry to say... His offense drags down his matches and his selling is inconsistent at times. He cannot carry a good match, but he can hold his own in a decent match and be carried to a good-great match. I guess you can say the same for Lesnar, but his offense doesn't drag down his matches and that's why I would rate him slightly above Triple H. I guess I meant to say Trips is a decent worker, who can be carried to great matches. So to answer your question, Triple H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 You guys are seriously getting your hopes up for Benoit Vs Jericho. This is the reason Benoit and Edge are tag champs. They defend those belts while HHH/HBK get the main slot to finally decide who gets the title shot against Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 What does Judgement Day have? So far there's been, what, 3 matches booked - and I'll be surprised if any of them hit **1/2. Right now, I'd rather just watch an episode of Raw than JD. I have confidence in Cena / Dupree and Undertaker / Booker hitting ** - ***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Just got back from the store, in the new SD magazine, Edge is on the promo poster. There's faded images behind him of him turning around, each image is progressing from being clean shaven to the final image of him looking directly at you with a full grown goatee. Its says "He's back. Watch yours." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I like the Kane character and Benoit will be able to get at least *** 1/2 out of him. Maybe if your scale goes up to ten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 He's had great matches because he's in there with great workers who make ANYBODY they face look better than they really are. Didn't catch that Benoit/Rhyno abortion on SmackDown, huh? I don't think he's improved at all, he's simply in there with better talent. I mean RVD, Booker and Goldberg are no Benoit, Micheals and Tajiri "Regular" Tajiri matches bore me. Now, I don't know if it was because of the "Can he do it?" factor or what, but Tajiri/HHH was far more interesting to watch than Tajiri vs A-Train or whatever other mid-card heel on SmackDown. Having become familiar enough with Shawn now (I wasn't watching during his previous stint) through tapes and enough matches on Raw to become exposed, he's not exciting me that much at all either, especially since about a year ago he stopped selling his weakened back and now there's no reason to get worked up about him being pounded on and making the comeback. However, I think it's safe to say that something is motivating HHH and Shawn right now to both work better than they regularly do. A fire under the ass, if you weeeeeel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I have a feeling that particular run will be broken fairly soon, barring some Cruiserweight-based miracle at Judgement Day. I wouldn't count on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Oh and.....ANOTHER HELL IN A CELL!? I know it's been almost a year but still.......it needs a good 2 year break! They want us to forget that Kevin Nash was involved in one. WE WANT US to forget that Kevin Nash was involved in one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Oh and.....ANOTHER HELL IN A CELL!? I know it's been almost a year but still.......it needs a good 2 year break! They want us to forget that Kevin Nash was involved in one. WE WANT US to forget that Kevin Nash was involved in one. Mick Foley is proud to have taken part in that match. He thought it was good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I really liked the Nash vs HHH HIAC match. Considering Nash was at 9% and Hunter wasn't feeling that great either, they did the impossible and had a somewhat decent match. Whoever planted this retarded Jericho vs Benoit idea needs to be taken out back and shot for getting everyones hopes up. Kane is being built back up again for a reason - to face Benoit at Badd Blood. I'll still buy the show. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites