USA POW Beheaded

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

We're not in a postion to go charging over there with all guns blazing wether or not we want too.

 

After seeing all the problems it's caused for America I don't want Canadians dying in a war that can't be won.

[Styles 0]

We're not in a postion to go charging over there with all guns blazing wether or not we want too.

 

After seeing all the problems it's caused for America I don't want Canadians dying in a war that can't be won.

Do you guys even have an army?

[Dr. Tom 0]

Simple! If you threaten to attack a soldier, you are a terrorist and will be killed. If you go about your daily business without plotting to kill American troops, you're safe!

Absolutely. I'm completely ready to label anyone who raises a stick at an American soldier or civilian a terrorist. Anyone who's in any way aided the terrorists should meet the same fate. We shouldn't differentiate between terrorists and the pieces of subhuman sewage who help them do their dirty work.

 

Personally, I'd prefer Napalm pits, because that sounds awesome. But shooting everyone like that in the head would be fine with me, also. As long as they all end up dead, I'm not going to quibble overmuch about the means.

[Guest Riots bloodlust]

I think that there is a point that needs to be made, and this thread is as good a place as any. Many people are saying that there is no connection between Saddam and 9/11. However, he did provide large payoffs to the families of Hammas suicide bombers. The war on terror, I believe, should not be viewed as only against Al Qaeda, but all terrorist groups. Islamic fundamentalists, or Islamo Fascists as some may call them. Bush also said that we will not distinguish between terrorist groups and those who harbor and support them. Saddam was clearly a supporter.

 

The biggest point to make: After the first gulf war, troops were stationed in Saudi Arabia to defend them should Iraq become hostile again. The troops in Saudi Arabia is theoretically the reason for Al Qaeda to attack the US. With Saddam gone, US troops can be removed from Saudi Arabia.

 

I don't want to enflame any arguments. This being my first time posting in this folder, I am wary of such things. These are just a couple of large points that I often see being ignored, and deserve to be stated plainly.

[Styles 0]

You're right on actually. And we should withdraw from Saudi Arabia because they're worthless backstabbers that don't deserve our protection.

[Guest SideFXs]

The video of Nick Berg’s beheading was released, on an Al-Qaida-linked Website. The terrorists know there are American politicians and media that have taken the enemy’s side, in order to get a Republican president voted out of office. Well it is being reported to the American Public, that Berg’s death was a result of the mistreatment of fellow Arab insurgents., in prison.

 

Thanks CNN, The New Yorker, MSNBC, CBS, Ted Kennedy, and Hillary Clinton. I wonder how Kerry will raise money for the DNC, with this video?

 

If you are a terrorist and you could vote, who would you vote for? President Bush, or Kerry?

 

There has been so much outrage, in the media about the Abu Ghraib abuses. An outrage caused by the media’s release of pictures used in an ongoing military investigation, since January of this year! An outrage designed to cast a negative light on the American Military. An outrage fueled by Teddy and the media designed to cast a negative light on Rumsfeld and our President. Will the media ever admit their malice, in the death of Nick Berg?

 

And where is the outrage, in the media, for the abuse of Nick Berg? I just can’t get out of my mind, the HORROR Nick was feeling, strapped down and helpless, as he let out his high pitched screams of mercy , as he felt the knife’s blade cut into his spinal cord.

 

I shudder at the fate of Matt Maupin, his family lives only five miles from me.

[Styles 0]

JUST STOP. For god's sake, at least after 9/11 we were all united against partisan bickering. The terrorists don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican. You're an American and they want you dead. If your Jewish your fucked too.

I want Mr. Kerry and Mr. Bush to effectively tell me this fall how they plan on dealing with terrorist scum that are insistent on murdering us. The one with the most agressive, take no shit, answer will get my vote. Unfortunately, the one who I think wins that is not agressive enough...

[Styles 0]

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

We're not in a postion to go charging over there with all guns blazing wether or not we want too.

 

After seeing all the problems it's caused for America I don't want Canadians dying in a war that can't be won.

Do you guys even have an army?

Sigh.

 

Please tell me you're making an attempt at a joke here. We don't need to get into another thing where the Canadians list the carious accomplishments of the Canadian Army (Vimy Ridge anyone?) only for some American poster to go "OMG your army is tiny!!11".

 

Suffice to say that, yes we have an army. A small one but fairly well trained It's mostly dedicated to peack keeping missions. A large force is in Afghanastan at the moment.

[Styles 0]

We're not in a postion to go charging over there with all guns blazing wether or not we want too.

 

After seeing all the problems it's caused for America I don't want Canadians dying in a war that can't be won.

Do you guys even have an army?

Sigh.

 

Please tell me you're making an attempt at a joke here. We don't need to get into another thing where the Canadians list the carious accomplishments of the Canadian Army (Vimy Ridge anyone?) only for some American poster to go "OMG your army is tiny!!11".

 

Suffice to say that, yes we have an army. A small one but fairly well trained It's mostly dedicated to peack keeping missions. A large force is in Afghanastan at the moment.

You know what they say: "it's not the size, it's how you use it!"

 

...do you guys ever use it?

[Guest TheAustralian]

This thread definately took a disturbing turn,

 

I must say mike (and others), most the time you make interesting points that make alot of sense, but this idea that blowing up the whole of the middle east is the right thing to do,

 

or that somehow this would fix any problems you have is just plain misguided,destroying the middle east would make the USA the target of everyone, Russia and germany would once again become your enemy.

 

Most likely your only allies would be Australia and England.

 

Seriously guys, I have no problem with a painful death to those that have been proven to be terrorist, but the kill of innocents is wrong nomatter if there muslim or American.

 

I firmly believe that if the rest of the world put up there hands to join America in this war, we would win, we would free the downtrodden muslim race and would free up a region where terrrorism has existed for thousands of years,

 

This talk of a Hiroshima like answer to this problem has so many problems, so many repercussions, IT IS NOT THE ANSWER

[JoeDirt 0]

This whole thing just makes me sad.

 

It makes me sad that monsters like that exist in our world.

 

It makes me sad that religion is so often used as a reasoning for murder or torture.

 

It makes me sad that everyone is on such a different level of communication that none of this will ever change, and that people will be senselessly slaughtered again and again and again in the name of one cause or another.

[Guest hunger4unger]

I've just found out that prior to his kidnapping, Nick Berg was arrested by the Iraqi police and handed over to US troops for detention before finally being freed when he was picked up by this "terrorist group."

 

I want to know what he was initially arrested for and why he was released.

 

I smell a conspiracy here...could Berg have been "handed over" to this group, knowing full well he'd be killed...in order to distract the media and American public from the torture/abuse scandal?

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Unger is the leftist version of Rob Stone.

[AndrewTS 0]

Let the whole lot of them remain in the dark Ages and don't ever deal with them again, except to keep oil flowing and to protect Israel. If they do ANYTHING we find threatening, sweep in and blow the place up --- screw trying to rebuild a damned thing.

-=Mike

 

Agreed.

[2GOLD 0]

I've just found out that prior to his kidnapping, Nick Berg was arrested by the Iraqi police and handed over to US troops for detention before finally being freed when he was picked up by this "terrorist group."

 

I want to know what he was initially arrested for and why he was released.

 

I smell a conspiracy here...could Berg have been "handed over" to this group, knowing full well he'd be killed...in order to distract the media and American public from the torture/abuse scandal?

 

Just when I thought I couldn't read anything stupider....I see this.

 

NOW we arranged for a man to be beheaded to distract the media from prisoner abuse??? And this would have distracted them HOW exactly?

 

I usually see some reasoning in even the dumbest of conspiracy theories, but this one is just mindless.

[Guest hunger4unger]

Instead of the media constantly showing US troops in a bad light and focussing on the torture, they can now run with this story thus shunting the torture away from the public and making us focus on what happened to Berg.

 

Berg was picked up by "Al Queda" one day after being released from US custody.

 

I'm not saying that there IS a big conspiracy here - i'm merely pointing something out and keeping a very open mind.

[C Dubya 04 0]

The video of Nick Berg’s beheading was released, on an Al-Qaida-linked Website. The terrorists know there are American politicians and media that have taken the enemy’s side, in order to get a Republican president voted out of office. Well it is being reported to the American Public, that Berg’s death was a result of the mistreatment of fellow Arab insurgents., in prison.

 

Thanks CNN, The New Yorker, MSNBC, CBS, Ted Kennedy, and Hillary Clinton. I wonder how Kerry will raise money for the DNC, with this video?

 

If you are a terrorist and you could vote, who would you vote for? President Bush, or Kerry?

 

There has been so much outrage, in the media about the Abu Ghraib abuses. An outrage caused by the media’s release of pictures used in an ongoing military investigation, since January of this year! An outrage designed to cast a negative light on the American Military. An outrage fueled by Teddy and the media designed to cast a negative light on Rumsfeld and our President. Will the media ever admit their malice, in the death of Nick Berg?

 

And where is the outrage, in the media, for the abuse of Nick Berg? I just can’t get out of my mind, the HORROR Nick was feeling, strapped down and helpless, as he let out his high pitched screams of mercy , as he felt the knife’s blade cut into his spinal cord.

 

I shudder at the fate of Matt Maupin, his family lives only five miles from me.

Please, can we stop this kind of logic. Please. This is not the time for partisan bickering. Democrats are not rooting for terrorists. Both sides are trying to do what is best for this country. They just disagree with how it should be accomplished. This goes out to Hunger too. You always seem to think that Bush has alterior motives. He doesn't. He wants what is best for the world, just you (and I, I must admit) disagree with his methods of trying to achieve it.

 

Maybe if both sides started working together to find solutions (pipe dream I know), solutions could be found.

 

And another thing, I don't know what media your following sfx, but I could not escape these images and the outrage that followed. Every single news program I watched last night and this morning was covering this with great sadness and outrage. Why pretend that it's the media's fault?

[Downhome 0]

Simple! If you threaten to attack a soldier, you are a terrorist and will be killed. If you go about your daily business without plotting to kill American troops, you're safe!

Absolutely. I'm completely ready to label anyone who raises a stick at an American soldier or civilian a terrorist. Anyone who's in any way aided the terrorists should meet the same fate. We shouldn't differentiate between terrorists and the pieces of subhuman sewage who help them do their dirty work.

 

Personally, I'd prefer Napalm pits, because that sounds awesome. But shooting everyone like that in the head would be fine with me, also. As long as they all end up dead, I'm not going to quibble overmuch about the means.

I agree, just destroy them ass as I've said. I'll take it a step further however. All of those people who beat on dead American bodies, those people who stand in the mobs cheering when we are killed, the people who just straight up cheer on these monsters, I say destroy them also. Have it be they lack the balls to actually fuck with us or not, just standing up for those fuckers is enough to make me call for their deaths.

 

And hunger4unger, with your latest statement you instantly became the stupidest shit in the history of this forum, congrats.

[Firestarter 0]

The easiest way to get the most accomplished with minimal effort would be to assassinate this al-Sadr or Sadq or Sadat (or whatever) raghead. Then when his shitty little followers come out screaming and shrieking and firing their weapons and shouting about Allah, several hidden loudspeakers would warn them to disperse immediately. Naturally, this would only make them start burning effigies and yelling about Great Satans. At that point the three cruise missiles launched a few minutes ago would obliterate a few tens of thousands of their number and the world would be a better place.

 

So. Potential problems:

1) Would everyone killed be a terrorist?

Yup. By definition. They'd be at a rally wailing about the death of a terrorist leader, so they'd probably be terrorists, and some might be terrorist supporters at the very least. But we make no distinction between terrorists and their supporters, so everyone there would be a terrorist. QED

2) What about innocent passers-by?

The loudspeakers warned them to leave. If any remained, they shouldn't have been associating with our enemies in the first place. Eventually people will start making the following link: "merely being around insane ragheads = extremely painful and absolutely certain death," and our job will get a lot easier.

3) Wouldn't this make them hate us more?

Good luck finding someone who cares.

4) Aren't you a racist bigot for suggesting we kill terrorists without giving them a jury trial or even a chance to surrender?

Shut up, Jacques. Go to the back of the class.

[Ripper 0]

Instead of the media constantly showing US troops in a bad light and focussing on the torture, they can now run with this story thus shunting the torture away from the public and making us focus on what happened to Berg.

 

Berg was picked up by "Al Queda" one day after being released from US custody.

 

I'm not saying that there IS a big conspiracy here - i'm merely pointing something out and keeping a very open mind.

Wow...just...just Wow.

[Zorin Industries 0]

It scares me when I remember you work fot the U.S. Administration Marney

[Firestarter 0]

It scares me when I remember you work fot the U.S. Administration Marney

Settle down; my region is Russia and most of eastern Europe. I have nothing to do with the Middle East.

 

How do you know that's true? All these disgusting litterboxes of countries aren't yet sheet upon sheet of slowly cooling radioactive glass.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Well, Glenn Beck just played the audio of this execution -- and I'm still sick to my stomach.

 

I wonder if Big Media will do the same -- nah, we need to see more pics of Iraqi prisoners with underwear on their heads...

[Zorin Industries 0]

Settle down; my region is Russia and most of eastern Europe. I have nothing to do with the Middle East.

I just hope you don't turn Russia into radioactive glass, I plan to visit it someday

[Skywarp! 0]

Has anyone seen the video yet? Absolutely horrific. I'll never get the sound of that man's screams when the knife starts sawing his neck out of my head, ever.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

We're not in a postion to go charging over there with all guns blazing wether or not we want too.

 

After seeing all the problems it's caused for America I don't want Canadians dying in a war that can't be won.

Do you guys even have an army?

Sigh.

 

Please tell me you're making an attempt at a joke here. We don't need to get into another thing where the Canadians list the carious accomplishments of the Canadian Army (Vimy Ridge anyone?) only for some American poster to go "OMG your army is tiny!!11".

 

Suffice to say that, yes we have an army. A small one but fairly well trained It's mostly dedicated to peack keeping missions. A large force is in Afghanastan at the moment.

You know what they say: "it's not the size, it's how you use it!"

 

...do you guys ever use it?

Yes, as I already stated we have a large contigient in Afghanastan and various other hot spots across the globe. We're not at war with anyone at the moment though.

 

As far as using it:

 

1812, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam hundreds of Canadians came to America and formed voluntary troops, Persian Gulf, Afghanastan, and numerous other UN missions.

 

We do our part, but we're not the US and we don't have the population or the resources to go crusading around the world righting the wrongs.

[Firestarter 0]

I just hope you don't turn Russia into radioactive glass

Of course not. I've always liked the Soviets. Those were the good old days...

[Anorak 0]

I can't believe so many people here chose to watch the thing (the execution footage), just that small description you gave was bad enough. The whole region is so firmly rooted in the dark ages it beggars belief

[Guest MikeSC]

I've just found out that prior to his kidnapping, Nick Berg was arrested by the Iraqi police and handed over to US troops for detention before finally being freed when he was picked up by this "terrorist group."

 

I want to know what he was initially arrested for and why he was released.

 

I smell a conspiracy here...could Berg have been "handed over" to this group, knowing full well he'd be killed...in order to distract the media and American public from the torture/abuse scandal?

You are, without a question, evidence of God's fallibility.

Instead of the media constantly showing US troops in a bad light and focussing on the torture, they can now run with this story thus shunting the torture away from the public and making us focus on what happened to Berg.

 

Berg was picked up by "Al Queda" one day after being released from US custody.

 

I'm not saying that there IS a big conspiracy here - i'm merely pointing something out and keeping a very open mind.

No, you're being a moron. World of difference between an open mind and an empty one.

The easiest way to get the most accomplished with minimal effort would be to assassinate this al-Sadr or Sadq or Sadat (or whatever) raghead.

Also blow up his mosque. Any house of Allah where beheading and murder is encouraged is one less house needed to remain standing.

 

If Muslims bitch, remind them that if they ever spoke out against these monkeys, the mosque would be standing.

 

But they didn't --- and it shouldn't be, either.

Then when his shitty little followers come out screaming and shrieking and firing their weapons and shouting about Allah, several hidden loudspeakers would warn them to disperse immediately. Naturally, this would only make them start burning effigies and yelling about Great Satans. At that point the three cruise missiles launched a few minutes ago would obliterate a few tens of thousands of their number and the world would be a better place.

I say send in female soldiers and order them to fire indiscriminately. Nothing would upset them more than meeting Allah because a girl punched their ticket.

So. Potential problems:

1) Would everyone killed be a terrorist?

Yup. By definition. They'd be at a rally wailing about the death of a terrorist leader, so they'd probably be terrorists, and some might be terrorist supporters at the very least. But we make no distinction between terrorists and their supporters, so everyone there would be a terrorist. QED

Heck, I doubt people made such distinctions about people who'd attend, say, a KKK rally. If you're there and aren't protesting --- then you're supporting them and, thus, an enemy.

2) What about innocent passers-by?

The loudspeakers warned them to leave. If any remained, they shouldn't have been associating with our enemies in the first place. Eventually people will start making the following link: "merely being around insane ragheads = extremely painful and absolutely certain death," and our job will get a lot easier.

It would also serve to make recruitment of more "soldiers" for their cause a little harder.

3) Wouldn't this make them hate us more?

Good luck finding someone who cares.

Can ANYTHING make them hate us more?

4) Aren't you a racist bigot for suggesting we kill terrorists without giving them a jury trial or even a chance to surrender?

Shut up, Jacques. Go to the back of the class.

I say people who wait for them to kill are the racist bastards --- assuming that these people are incapable of doing such things.

I can't believe so many people here chose to watch the thing (the execution footage), just that small description you gave was bad enough. The whole region is so firmly rooted in the dark ages it beggars belief

I need to be reminded of how far these people will go --- so I can maintain some perspective on how pathetic this "abuse scandal" is.

-=Mike