USA POW Beheaded

[Cartman 0]

No shocker here, but I agree with Hunger somewhat. This whole situations is a big joke. I tell ya, the government has NEVER used methods of distraction when something goes against them. NO WAY!

 

On top of that, what happened to Saddam? I haven't seen or heard anything about him since the week he was "captured". Any news lately? or is he so irrelevant that nobody needs to know what is happening with him.

[Guest MikeSC]

For those of you who saw the video...did it look like he suffered? I know his father said he hoped the beheading was quick and painless...but I just can't imagine that was the case.

 

It's really interesting watching the news coverage of this whole incident today. You really start to see which news stations have which political agendas...is any news network known for being the most politically unbiased?

No, it didn't look painless.

 

At all.

 

He was screaming. Four or five guys held him down and they didn't cut the head off terribly quickly.

-=Mike

[Cartman 0]

For those of you who saw the video...did it look like he suffered? I know his father said he hoped the beheading was quick and painless...but I just can't imagine that was the case.

 

It's really interesting watching the news coverage of this whole incident today. You really start to see which news stations have which political agendas...is any news network known for being the most politically unbiased?

No, it didn't look painless.

 

At all.

 

He was screaming. Four or five guys held him down and they didn't cut the head off terribly quickly.

-=Mike

Truly disgusting...

 

I really shouldn't have watched that...

[Guest MikeSC]

No shocker here, but I agree with Hunger somewhat. This whole situations is a big joke. I tell ya, the government has NEVER used methods of distraction when something goes against them. NO WAY!

OF COURSE.

 

Our gov't uses beheadings to distract attention.

 

Heck, Daniel Pearl was beheaded just to make sure they know how long the disgust lasts, right?

 

Of course, that means Al Qaeda is in cahoots with the U.S gov't.

 

Which means WE attacked the WTC.

 

AIIIEEEEE!

 

Kamui made more sense than you --- and he was a neo-Nazi.

On top of that, what happened to Saddam? I haven't seen or heard anything about him since the week he was "captured". Any news lately? or is he so irrelevant that nobody needs to know what is happening with him.

Psst --- he was one of the prisoners getting raped.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

For those of you who saw the video...did it look like he suffered? I know his father said he hoped the beheading was quick and painless...but I just can't imagine that was the case.

 

It's really interesting watching the news coverage of this whole incident today. You really start to see which news stations have which political agendas...is any news network known for being the most politically unbiased?

No, it didn't look painless.

 

At all.

 

He was screaming. Four or five guys held him down and they didn't cut the head off terribly quickly.

-=Mike

Truly disgusting...

 

I really shouldn't have watched that...

We're an evil country --- unlike the Middle East, who treat ALL people with dignity and respect --- ESPECIALLY Jews and women.

 

They're like GODS!

-=Mike

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Cartman should have been banned long ago for not being intelligent on any subject matter.

 

Saddam is in a Federal Maximum Security Prison being questioned endlessly on things and living a miserable life. What more do you need to know?

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Nah, Saddam doesn't have it THAT bad. He knows he's fucked. He's probably spending his countless hours of incarceration watching the news and fucking with his inquisitors.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

He's not watching TV, I guarentee you that. For people like him they place you in a cell that's 6feetx6feet. There's a bed, a toilet, and books/magazines if you ask(yet only the aisleway of the cellblock has lighting). He'll get 30min of outdoor daylight and hours of questioning.

 

He's not John Gotti. They don't have to worry about a prison guard's family being whacked in the middle of the night if Saddam isn't getting HBO. I'm telling ya, he's leading a miserable life(especially when he plotted death against the current president's father).

 

He probably is fucking with the inquisitors though.

[Cartman 0]

What if it wasn't really Saddam? Oh nevermind that's COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE. There is absolutely ZERO chance that the man they showed us was one of his lookalikes.

 

By the way, I don't deal in "facts" that my government makes up to cover up the real motives. Last I checked having an opinion on matters was not a bannable offense.

 

If what I say here on in this folder is bannable than I want a mod to PM me or something and I promise I won't bother to post in this folder again. I don;t feel I should be banned for expressing an opinion no matter how pathetic and retarded you people think it is. I have every right to my own opinion and as far as I know, every right to express it here. If that's a wrong assumption than please do me a favor and let me know. I don't want to be banned.

[muzz 0]

Anyone know the man's name yet?

[Guest FrigidSoul]

What if it wasn't really Saddam? Oh nevermind that's COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE. There is absolutely ZERO chance that the man they showed us was one of his lookalikes.

Must have been one hell of a look-a-like then since his DNA came back as a positive match for Saddam. They weren't swabbing his gums to save him from gingavitis.

[KingPK 0]

By the way, I don't deal in "facts" that my government makes up to cover up the real motives. Last I checked having an opinion on matters was not a bannable offense.

Oh boy, I don't know if I want to ask this:

 

What ARE the government's "real motives?"

 

Hell, what are the "facts" they are making up?

 

Come on, let it all out on the table. You want your opinion respected? Let's hear that instead of a bunch of potshots at the President and the government.

Edited May 12, 2004 by Kingpk

[muzz 0]

Ah, his name's been mentioned.

 

I seriously gave up after the third page of the thread.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

What if it wasn't really Saddam? Oh nevermind that's COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE. There is absolutely ZERO chance that the man they showed us was one of his lookalikes.

Must have been one hell of a look-a-like then since his DNA came back as a positive match for Saddam. They weren't swabbing his gums to save him from gingavitis.

It was a clone.

[Cartman 0]

What if it wasn't really Saddam? Oh nevermind that's COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE. There is absolutely ZERO chance that the man they showed us was one of his lookalikes.

Must have been one hell of a look-a-like then since his DNA came back as a positive match for Saddam. They weren't swabbing his gums to save him from gingavitis.

But how do YOU know this? How do you know they didn't show that video just to make people think he was captured? How do you know the DNA matched? Cause some News station, Newspaper, or Government official says so? Sorry, not buying.

 

I have a real hard time believeing a guy that was such a tyrant would go down hiding in a hole without either fighting or killing himself first. Sure you can tell me that's because he's really a coward and all that right rhetoric all you want, but that doesnt make it true. I think Saddam is off somewhere enjoying his retirement with all that money he got from the US. Remember, he was with us at one time...but then again..how do we even know that?

 

The general public will never know the real things that go on unless they are there to witness these things for themselves. As far as I am concerned, they can tell us whatever they want and most people will buy it. I have to see things in person to believe them, that's just the way I am. If I don't, I make my own conclusions. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm right. Who knows? I believe that most people do things for their own personal gain with no thought of reprocussions it may have on the future or the present for that matter.

 

Why would I trust anything but my own beliefs when we have cars that fall apart or die after 10-15 years of constant use, yet they have space shuttles that can withstand re-entry of the earth's atmosphere several times? You can't tell me we can't develop a car that could last longer?(Just a small example of my point).

 

Of course they could, but it would cost auto makers money, and jobs would be lost, and that's BAD for people's personal gain.

 

It's all about the money in my opinion. You think they really don't have cures for diseases that wipe people out every day? Why cure it when Health Care companies(which I make my living off of) are making BILLIONS more by treating the problems with endless supplies of drugs. Drugs that cost more than most people can really afford. Drugs that people have to take for the rest of their lives to keep from dying. I know if I was in charge of that decision I would rather treat-to-cope than all out cure things.

 

EDIT for clarification: I meant if I was a CEO of a drug company like the one I work for.

 

I know that stuff is off-topic but it's just to impress my opinions and why i dont believe anything the government tells me about anything.

 

I'm not going to bother to post in this folder anymore so I can at least stay here and enjoy the sports, Games, and other good folders that don't piss me off and cause me to get Banned. I love this board and I have not been a troublemaker here for over 2 years since I have been here.

 

MikeSC i'm seriously sorry for attacking you in any way, I just don't agree with your attitude and opinions on these topics for the most part. You may think i'm just some moron with no brain and that's fine...i'm just ending the whole deal here. You obviously are a very intelligent person and I envy that about you.

 

I'm sorry for offending anyone else in these threads since this whole war crap started, it's just my opinions no matter how dumb they may seem to most of you.

[Styles 0]

hmmmm....

 

 

....OMG BAN PLZ~!!!!111

 

Your rambling, disjointed, non unified post just confirms that you are crazy. I don't mean it in a bad way, content aside, that post sounded like it was coming from a rambling lunatic.

 

I'm digging this whole secret police, threatening with bannings anyone who doesn't agree to leave this board policy. Hunger, care to take a similar pleabargain? ...Please?

[Guest MikeSC]

But how do YOU know this? How do you know they didn't show that video just to make people think he was captured? How do you know the DNA matched? Cause some News station, Newspaper, or Government official says so? Sorry, not buying.

The Int'l Red Cross MIGHT be lying, you're right.

I have a real hard time believeing a guy that was such a tyrant would go down hiding in a hole without either fighting or killing himself first.

Like Mussolini?

Sure you can tell me that's because he's really a coward and all that right rhetoric all you want, but that doesnt make it true. I think Saddam is off somewhere enjoying his retirement with all that money he got from the US. Remember, he was with us at one time...but then again..how do we even know that?

He was actually close, personal friends with Jacques Chirac.

The general public will never know the real things that go on unless they are there to witness these things for themselves. As far as I am concerned, they can tell us whatever they want and most people will buy it. I have to see things in person to believe them, that's just the way I am.

So, do you doubt you were born? I'm sure you don't remember seeing it. How about Roosevelt's death? Did he ACTUALLY die, since you didn't witness it happening?

 

OH MY GOD --- NO HISTORICAL FIGURE HAS EVER DIED! THE MAN IS JUST LYING TO US! AIEEEEEEE!

If I don't, I make my own conclusions. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm right. Who knows? I believe that most people do things for their own personal gain with no thought of reprocussions it may have on the future or the present for that matter.

You certainly live that mindset.

Why would I trust anything but my own beliefs when we have cars that fall apart or die after 10-15 years of constant use, yet they have space shuttles that can withstand re-entry of the earth's atmosphere several times?

Does the fact that some shuttles blow up make you feel more comfortable?

You can't tell me we can't develop a car that could last longer?(Just a small example of my point).

Because no way an INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE should EVER break down.

Of course they could, but it would cost auto makers money, and jobs would be lost, and that's BAD for people's personal gain.

Have you looked into medication for your problems?

It's all about the money in my opinion. You think they really don't have cures for diseases that wipe people out every day? Why cure it when Health Care companies(which I make my living off of) are making BILLIONS more by treating the problems with endless supplies of drugs.

Because, apparently unlike you, most people don't want to see others die so they can make a few bucks. That you seem to feel this is indicative of really bad parenting on your part and I hope you have never kids.

Drugs that cost more than most people can really afford. Drugs that people have to take for the rest of their lives to keep from dying. I know if I was in charge of that decision I would rather treat-to-cope than all out cure things.

So, Ripper and all --- am I still the most cold-hearted person here?

-=Mike

[KingPK 0]

I was right....I'm sorry I asked.

 

Geez, the Society for the Paranoid and Fucking Nuts is thataway, pal.

[Guest webmasterofwrestlegame]

Any predictions for what things will be like in Iraq in five years?

 

-I don't think Iraq will ever be as America enviosned when they started the war, and I think America becomes a dangerous place to live.

- I *hope* the shift of America's conscience goes from invading countries to saving the planet

 

More specifically, I hope no-one affected by the war dictated by few loses loved ones - it has to be hard to have a son or daughter heading to the middle east to fight for something they do not believe in and then learn they died. Horrible.

[Guest hunger4unger]

hmmmm....

 

 

....OMG BAN PLZ~!!!!111

 

Your rambling, disjointed, non unified post just confirms that you are crazy. I don't mean it in a bad way, content aside, that post sounded like it was coming from a rambling lunatic.

 

I'm digging this whole secret police, threatening with bannings anyone who doesn't agree to leave this board policy. Hunger, care to take a similar pleabargain? ...Please?

Neither myself or Cartman have done anything to warrant a ban. If you don't agree with my views or just flat out think i'm a moron, that's fine. I think that if I merely trolled this folder and started threads in order to provoke flames then there might be a case - the thing is, is that I post in several folders and I don't flame anyone or deliberately go out of my way to cause unrest here.

 

I am totally opposed to various other member's attitudes and stance on world affairs but i'm not compelled to call for bans.

 

Besides, I was once banned for two weeks and it sucked!

 

PS Cartman...even i'm not foolish enough to suggest the we don't have the actual Saddam..

[Guest jpclemmons]

This board is so right wing. I'm not going to make a dumb comment on the Shrubminsitration.

 

But on the topic on what these animals did to Berg is inexcusable. And where is the outrage from the Arab leaders on this cold-blooded murder? They bitch and moan on what the americans were doing with the Iraqi prisoners. But I don't hear a peep from any Arab leadesr now on this subject.

[Guest hunger4unger]

Any predictions for what things will be like in Iraq in five years?

 

-I don't think Iraq will ever be as America enviosned when they started the war, and I think America becomes a dangerous place to live.

- I *hope* the shift of America's conscience goes from invading countries to saving the planet

 

More specifically, I hope no-one affected by the war dictated by few loses loved ones - it has to be hard to have a son or daughter heading to the middle east to fight for something they do not believe in and then learn they died.  Horrible.

There are two scenarios that could be possible in 5 years time:

 

A) Bush wins in November.

 

Iraq has it's own puppet government, the US scales down the amount of troops in Iraq but rebellion and terrorism is rife.

 

Half of you will be in the Army, as a draft is required in order to invade Syria and then Iran.

 

Sharon has also killed half of palestine, using American money.

 

B) Kerry wins in November.

 

We are making progress in restoring peace and stability in Iraq. Power is shared by various religious leaders and although it has been hard work, Iraq is on it's way to being a democracy.

 

Kerry cuts aid to Israel and forces Sharon to stick to a road map for peace via threat of sanctions.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Cartman's psyche is an Orwellian casserole that's sat out overnight.

 

There's easier ways for a government to profit off of its people than to do things like wag the dog and set up terrorist attacks, dictatorships, puposely withhold cures for diseases, etc.

 

It's called GAS.

[DMann2003 0]

Why would I trust anything but my own beliefs when we have cars that fall apart or die after 10-15 years of constant use, yet they have space shuttles that can withstand re-entry of the earth's atmosphere several times? You can't tell me we can't develop a car that could last longer?(Just a small example of my point).

 

Of course they could, but it would cost auto makers money, and jobs would be lost, and that's BAD for people's personal gain.

 

It's all about the money in my opinion. You think they really don't have cures for diseases that wipe people out every day? Why cure it when Health Care companies(which I make my living off of) are making BILLIONS more by treating the problems with endless supplies of drugs. Drugs that cost more than most people can really afford. Drugs that people have to take for the rest of their lives to keep from dying. I know if I was in charge of that decision I would rather treat-to-cope than all out cure things.

I think you should ban Cartman for ripping off a Chris Rock routine for most of his post. (from Bigger & Blacker)

 

I'm surprised none of you picked up on it

 

Edit: I should mention I'm not wanton to posting in the political folder, it's too much of a headache. I have problems with both wings/parties/sides/whatever

 

I think the treatment of the Iraqi prisoners was foolish and stupid, are soldiers should be above such behavior. Punish them when they revolt, but don't go documenting it and getting goofy with it, that's just petty. I feel disciplinary action should be taken and soldiers reminded that you don't get anywhere by sinking down to your enemy's level.

 

And as for the buthcers who killed both this man and Pearl? Find and eliminate them. I'm probably not as "any-means necessary" on the subject as some here, but justice must be served.

 

In closing, you're all entitled to your opinions and beliefs and entitled to fiercely defend and disagree with each other. Just don't let yourself lose control over it.

[Guest MikeSC]

Any predictions for what things will be like in Iraq in five years?

 

-I don't think Iraq will ever be as America enviosned when they started the war, and I think America becomes a dangerous place to live.

- I *hope* the shift of America's conscience goes from invading countries to saving the planet

 

More specifically, I hope no-one affected by the war dictated by few loses loved ones - it has to be hard to have a son or daughter heading to the middle east to fight for something they do not believe in and then learn they died. Horrible.

America ends up fine. However, our desires for Iraq to be a decent place to live and a democracy will be shot down when we realize that Iraqis can't properly lay out a dinner table, much less a workable Constitution.

This board is so right wing. I'm not going to make a dumb comment on the Shrubminsitration.

Well, there went THAT vow.

But on the topic on what these animals did to Berg is inexcusable. And where is the outrage from the Arab leaders on this cold-blooded murder? They bitch and moan on what the americans were doing with the Iraqi prisoners. But I don't hear a peep from any Arab leadesr now on this subject.

You sound surprised.

 

There wasn't an outcry when they did it to Daniel Pearl, either.

 

However, their people have avoided dancing in the street, as they did after 9/11, so it's a LITTLE better.

Cartman's psyche is an Orwellian casserole that's sat out overnight.

 

There's easier ways for a government to profit off of its people than to do things like wag the dog and set up terrorist attacks, dictatorships, puposely withhold cures for diseases, etc.

 

It's called GAS.

And you think we're equally irritating. Tragic.

-=Mike

[JoeDirt 0]

There are two scenarios that could be possible in 5 years time:

 

A) Bush wins in November.

 

Iraq has it's own puppet government, the US scales down the amount of troops in Iraq but rebellion and terrorism is rife.

 

Half of you will be in the Army, as a draft is required in order to invade Syria and then Iran.

 

Sharon has also killed half of palestine, using American money.

 

B) Kerry wins in November.

 

We are making progress in restoring peace and stability in Iraq. Power is shared by various religious leaders and although it has been hard work, Iraq is on it's way to being a democracy.

 

Kerry cuts aid to Israel and forces Sharon to stick to a road map for peace via threat of sanctions.

Do you honestly think things are this cut and dry? Don't get me wrong, I don't plan on voting for Bush in November either...but it's not like with Kerry as president the world is suddenly going to become this bright, happy, perfect place.

[Guest MikeSC]

Any predictions for what things will be like in Iraq in five years?

 

-I don't think Iraq will ever be as America enviosned when they started the war, and I think America becomes a dangerous place to live.

- I *hope* the shift of America's conscience goes from invading countries to saving the planet

 

More specifically, I hope no-one affected by the war dictated by few loses loved ones - it has to be hard to have a son or daughter heading to the middle east to fight for something they do not believe in and then learn they died.  Horrible.

There are two scenarios that could be possible in 5 years time:

 

A) Bush wins in November.

 

Iraq has it's own puppet government, the US scales down the amount of troops in Iraq but rebellion and terrorism is rife.

 

Half of you will be in the Army, as a draft is required in order to invade Syria and then Iran.

 

Sharon has also killed half of palestine, using American money.

 

B) Kerry wins in November.

 

We are making progress in restoring peace and stability in Iraq. Power is shared by various religious leaders and although it has been hard work, Iraq is on it's way to being a democracy.

 

Kerry cuts aid to Israel and forces Sharon to stick to a road map for peace via threat of sanctions.

Wow. It's as if James Carville was here.

-=Mike

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Cartman's psyche is an Orwellian casserole that's sat out overnight.

 

There's easier ways for a government to profit off of its people than to do things like wag the dog and set up terrorist attacks, dictatorships, puposely withhold cures for diseases, etc.

 

It's called GAS.

And you think we're equally irritating. Tragic.

-=Mike

Your psyche is an ugly tie. I don't like ties or moldy food.

[cbacon 0]

Simple! If you threaten to attack a soldier, you are a terrorist and will be killed. If you go about your daily business without plotting to kill American troops, you're safe!

Absolutely. I'm completely ready to label anyone who raises a stick at an American soldier or civilian a terrorist. Anyone who's in any way aided the terrorists should meet the same fate. We shouldn't differentiate between terrorists and the pieces of subhuman sewage who help them do their dirty work.

 

Personally, I'd prefer Napalm pits, because that sounds awesome. But shooting everyone like that in the head would be fine with me, also. As long as they all end up dead, I'm not going to quibble overmuch about the means.

I agree, just destroy them ass as I've said. I'll take it a step further however. All of those people who beat on dead American bodies, those people who stand in the mobs cheering when we are killed, the people who just straight up cheer on these monsters, I say destroy them also. Have it be they lack the balls to actually fuck with us or not, just standing up for those fuckers is enough to make me call for their deaths.

 

And hunger4unger, with your latest statement you instantly became the stupidest shit in the history of this forum, congrats.

If that's the case shouldn't thousans of American soldiers responsible for the death of thousands of Iraqi's be 'destroyed' as well?

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

No, you see, because the world isn't all 50:50 like that. We got fucked with, now we're exacting revenge. Gandhi was way off with his "Everyone ends up with one eye" comment. The real way it works is, someone figuratively puts your eye out, and you shoot them in the chest six or seven times. Moral relativity is pretty silly. Why do you insist on ending a war in a TIE? The objective is to WIN.