The WWE Creative team drops the ball

[Guest Trivia247]

It seems to be something of a frequent thing in the WWE now. The WWE creative team, the bookers, the storywriters, the guys who think this shit up have been dropping the ball as of late.

 

We can start with what Kanyon essentially relayed about his own departure. Johnny Ace, the genius that dip is, gave him notice of his soon release. The fact the Writers got nothing for him...

 

Nothing for him? Excuse me?

 

the WWE comes up with Near Racist Heart attack shit for JBL and other Hosses who seem to be having nice job security, but people like Kanyon and Rey just is thrown by the way side because they got nothing for them?

 

Rey at least they found some little job for him on Smackdown tv being a good matching partner for RVD vs the Dudleys.

 

But how many other wrestlers in the WWE roster who either sits at home or works pointless positions in OVW because the Bookers rather get together and try to sicken us with HHH & HBK vs Chris benoit twice in two months instead of trying to get a Paul London on Air..

 

Christ these geniuses thought it was a good idea for Jackie to beat Chavo for the title, then Chavo beats her back for the belt... Wasn't there like at least a dozen cruiserweight possibilities to challenge him?

[Scroby 0]

You know we all say that on these boards.

[Kardo 0]

It all begins and ends with the Tazz/Austin feud. I was pumped, they could have main evented a pay per view with that. But nope a 10 second squash match after 5 months of build up.

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But how many other wrestlers in the WWE roster who either sits at home or works pointless positions in OVW because the Bookers rather get together and try to sicken us with HHH & HBK vs Chris benoit twice in two months instead of trying to get a Paul London on Air..

 

I'll take the Benoit/HBK/HHH matches over any London or Kanyon match.

 

Christ these geniuses thought it was a good idea for Jackie to beat Chavo for the title, then Chavo beats her back for the belt... Wasn't there like at least a dozen cruiserweight possibilities to challenge him?

 

Chavo gave an open challenge to anyone he hasn't wrestled before. Didn't he wrestle London in tag matches before?

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There are just to many people on both rosters with nothing to do, yet despite this they keep bringing in more people. That dosent help at all either. I guess that never made sence to me, why bring in new people when you dont have enough for the people who are already there?

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Chavo gave an open challenge to anyone he hasn't wrestled before. Didn't he wrestle London in tag matches before?

I don't believe so. Even if they did face off, Chavo has never faced "El Gran Luchador" before, which would have made for a better drawn-out angle than Jacqueline.

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WWE's REAL problems is, if your not a main eventer, they don't know how to build your character.

 

So, instead of TRYING to build characters for the undercard, instead, they just get more workers.

 

And hell, they even have trouble giving characters who their trying to push to the ME [see Shelton].

[BHK 0]

they need new writers.

 

The only way I can see this happeningis if ratings/profits go down to a point where Vince is willing to make such a change.

 

I'm not advocating a boycott WWE movment, but they are still a company. The easiest way to harm a company is to hurt their bottom line, then they're forced to change.

[Kizzo 0]

Exactly BHk....

 

As long as WWE is making money....and the ratings are not below a 2.9...and they have descent buyrates...you will see ZERO change in the creative department...

 

The only way you will see a change as if Steph resigns and Gerwitz resigns with here......

[razazteca 0]

I can think of 3 guys who could of been something if the Creative had a clue...........Goldust, Lance Storm, Val Venis.

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Goldust = old/stale

Storm = boring

Venis = bad gimmick

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Goldust = old/stale

Storm = boring

Venis = bad gimmick

You forgot the part where Goldust was extremely over in 2002 up until the Tourette's crap and the fact that keeping Val with the stupid gimmick was razazteca's point, I believe.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

The problem is that the writers are lazy for the most part. Look at John Cena for the perfect example. He had a wide array of raps and material until the point that he got over now he's basically doing the same crap each and every week.

 

Shelton is another good example. They haven't been able to work up any momentum with him because he gets a huge pinfall one week and then doesn't even appear on the show the next.

 

The battle royal is another great example. Kane has been totally destroyed as a credible ME yet he wins for some unknown reason.

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The problem is that the writers are lazy for the most part. Look at John Cena for the perfect example. He had a wide array of raps and material until the point that he got over now he's basically doing the same crap each and every week

Cena writes his own raps.

 

As for Shelton not appearing on RAW, it was ONE week that he didn't appear, and it was a stacked show anyway.

[razazteca 0]

My point was that Booker T & Golddust were over as a tag team then the "genius" idea was to give Goldust the Tourette's crap then they dragged out the breakup for months. And they never got their revenge against Evolution.

 

Val Venis went from porn star to Eric Bischoff's bitch as Chief Morely to back to porn star.

 

Lance Storm who has absolutely no acting ability at all was made into a dancing fool and WWE #1 endorser for Enzyte. And lets not forget the Austin BORING angle that lasted 2 weeks.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

You also forgot Bookdust only getting the tag titles for 2 weeks before the very unover Regal and Storm team won them.

[razazteca 0]

Poor Lance Storm got screwed over more than once. I think the Creative needs to make Lance Storm Eugene's wresting tudor. This way Lance can do his "I'm Serious" gimmick during one of the workout segments! Eugene can be running around rambling random wrestling names then Lance would say "Can I be Serious for a moment" then demostrates a wrestling move on Regal.

[BHK 0]

The problem is that the writers are lazy for the most part.

 

This is a valid point in a way. I wouldn't cal lit lazy, but WWE doesn't have an offseason. Real television writers get the summer off.

 

I'm not saying there should be an offseason, that would probably hurt business, and have mopre neagtives than positives, but I thnik it would be tough to be motivated 52 weeks a year, that plus coming up with fresh new ideas week in and week out. It has to be tough no matter how good you are.

 

Maybe what they need is a one-time vacation. Say a month or so. Make it after Summerslam until the beginning of October so you can still build for Survivor Series. Matybe that would help the company get itself together and give it time to figure out who it was going to use and how.

[Guest Trivia247]

Well as we said or been reported that the Writers are just half assing Smackdown since its a B show and the concentration Vince Wants is on Raw and those people therein.

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I'm not saying there should be an offseason, that would probably hurt business, and have mopre neagtives than positives, but I thnik it would be tough to be motivated 52 weeks a year, that plus coming up with fresh new ideas week in and week out. It has to be tough no matter how good you are.

 

Maybe what they need is a one-time vacation. Say a month or so. Make it after Summerslam until the beginning of October so you can still build for Survivor Series. Matybe that would help the company get itself together and give it time to figure out who it was going to use and how.

 

I never thought about this until now..

 

An offseason would be something to consider for the creative team....and plus these guys are former hollywood writers...and they always had an offseason which could explain for some of the laziness...but they have been doing it for about 3 or 4 years now....soooooo, they could have adjusted to writing for wrestling shows..

 

But in the end everyone needs a break.....and maybe that's what THIS creative team needs..

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

In every era the writers have managed to fuck things up badly in one way or another.

 

We got the well booked Foley Vs. Orton feud, the Jericho vs. Xtian feud, and the well built Chavo heel turn and initial run as Crusier champ. You had them turn Brock from a joke into the guy SD! reveloved around.

 

It's really bad currently but lets remember that The Rock, Austin, Angle, etc. are all gone, rarely appear, or are in non-wrestling roles.

 

Look at Eugene. That storyline has been executed perfectly so far. The Hirohito gimmick had potential but also the wrong worker.

 

In the attitude era we had Chaz the Woman Beater, Bossman being hung from the Cell, and the Kennel match.

 

In the early 90's you had the Goon, Goobely gooker, etc.

 

the writers are always hit or miss. If anything the writing is improving. SD! is on a downspin but I lay that at one Writer (Gerwitz) and Mcmahon himself since he wants to go the way it's going.

[Guest Anglesault]

The most hideous thing I've seen from this booking team (in the "we have nothing for you" sense") is turning WGTT into jobber Velocity losers for three months while pushing the Bashams

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On the subject of the first post...

 

...what exactly COULD they have done with Kanyon?

 

 

Oh and...

 

and try to sicken us with HHH & HBK vs Chris benoit twice in two months instead of trying to get a Paul London on Air..

 

Yeah. Paul London is more of a priority than Raw's top heel, popular veteran and World Champion. I love the guy's work to death, and agree he should be on air, but there's no need to be on his jock 24/7.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Speaking of old time gimmicks, I swear I can bet Vince would just list every sport ever, put them in a hat, draw it out, and give a wrestler that gimmick.

 

"Hey, Hockey! You can be the Goon! Hey, baseball, Abe Schwartz it is! What the hell...who put WCW in here?! OK, we can do some sketches to make fun of the old wrestlers!:

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The most hideous thing I've seen from this booking team (in the "we have nothing for you" sense") is turning WGTT into jobber Velocity losers for three months while pushing the Bashams

Horrors that they tried to make their tag team division bigger....

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On the subject of the first post...

 

...what exactly COULD they have done with Kanyon?

-The easiest thing to do was put him in a tag team. Both Raw's and SD's tag scenes were pretty pathetic at the time, and they pulled back on pushing O'Haire, so they could have teamed up the 2 of them on either show to fill out the division. Kanyon does most of the work, and O'Haire brings the power moves.

 

-They could have stuck him in the midcard (on either show) under the Mortis gimmick as a trial run to see what happens. If he connected, then give him a little push. They tried it with guys like John Heidenreich and Matt Morgan (and are giving guys like Mordecai & Kenzo a shot now), and Kanyon is several steps up from them, so it could have been worth a shot.

 

It's not like they needed to give him a ME-level push. He'd be the perfect midcard guy - cool moves, comfortable on camera & on the mic, can do comedy, bumps great.

 

It's too bad he's not around now, as SD's reportedly going to be gimmick driven - Mortis would have been a perfect fit.

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But he even pretty much says that Taker nixxed the idea of Mortis because it too closely represented him.

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Mortis would sell and lose matches.

[Guest Anglesault]

The most hideous thing I've seen from this booking team (in the "we have nothing for you" sense") is turning WGTT into jobber Velocity losers for three months while pushing the Bashams

Horrors that they tried to make their tag team division bigger....

By doing nothing with their best tag team?

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They didn't do NOTHING with them, they put them on Velocity for like 2 weeks while giving the Bashams a bigger push.

 

Was 2 weeks such a bad thing? It even got you a Spanky/London vs. WGTT match on Velocity.