Third Time Ain't the Charm

[Guest whatitistoburn]

Moore said on Dateline he wasn't a democrat.

[Guest MikeSC]

Moore said on Dateline he wasn't a democrat.

O'Reilly says he's not a conservative.

 

Do you believe him?

-=Mike

[Styles 0]

Heh...good one!

 

I think he's independent...if a Democrat leader was President I think that Moore would be just the same (if they had done exactly what Bush has)

Again --- do you believe O'Reilly when he says that he's independent?

 

Because I take Moore's claim as seriously as O'Reilly's.

-=Mike

...Hell, Moore is likely a Socialist...

Actually, coincidentally Moore admitted on O'reilly's show last year as a guest that he WAS a socialist when asked and claimed that the government should be able to tax us at a 70% rate. How's that for tying a couple subjects together?

 

Oh, and wait, wait, wait....I might have missed something? Is Michael Moore fat? C'mon, next thing you'll tell me, John Kerry was the head of Haliburton....

[Guest whatitistoburn]

Moore said on Dateline he wasn't a democrat.

O'Reilly says he's not a conservative.

 

Do you believe him?

-=Mike

I think you can be liberal and not be a democrat. Just because there's a two party system doesn't mean we all fall directly into the titles.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

That sounds like commie talk to me.

 

I don't believe in Libertarians.

[Precious Roy 0]

I think you can be liberal and not be a democrat. Just because there's a two party system doesn't mean we all fall directly into the titles.

BLASPHEMY!

[NoCalMike 0]

I am always accused of being a democrat, when I criticize Bush, it's nothing new. The general public still doesn't seem to be ready to accept that you can be neither a republican or democrat, and STILL be interested in politics.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Nadervote.com

[Precious Roy 0]

Nadervote.com

No thanks. If Nader isn't running in the interest of a viable third party what's the point?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Moore said on Dateline he wasn't a democrat.

O'Reilly says he's not a conservative.

 

Do you believe him?

-=Mike

Oh, Christ, we're back on this topic.

 

I've said my piece on this long ago...

[Vyce 0]

Heh...good one!

 

I think he's independent...if a Democrat leader was President I think that Moore would be just the same (if they had done exactly what Bush has)

Wow.

 

I'm going to be nice and just say, I think you give Moore far more credit than he deserves.

 

INFINITELY more credit.

[Guest thebigjig]

Heh...good one!

 

I think he's independent...if a Democrat leader was President I think that Moore would be just the same (if they had done exactly what Bush has)

Wow.

 

I'm going to be nice and just say, I think you give Moore far more credit than he deserves.

 

INFINITELY more credit.

Well... he did bash Clinton on a fairly consistant basis and even called him the best "republican" president in our history

[EricMM 0]

If Bush wasn't prez, I don't think Moore would have a top grossing movie at all; hell he might not even be famous.

[Guest thebigjig]

So... to be an independant... you MUST vote for an independant...

 

gotcha

 

He's rabidly anti-Bush.

 

Yes, and so is my grandmother... who is a registered Republican

 

The head of the DNC loves the guy.

 

Yes... because he's rabidly anti-Bush

 

He endorsed a candidate in the Democratic primaries.

 

Yes... because he's rabidly anti-Bush

 

 

Moore is NOT a Democrat... he's an independant who is willing to join forces with the lesser of two evils to remove a President he feels is a threat to Democracy...

 

whether you agree with that sentiment or not is irrelevant... it's really not a complicated thing to understand

[Guest thebigjig]

If Bush wasn't prez, I don't think Moore would have a top grossing movie at all; hell he might not even be famous.

ummmm... he's been famous since the 80's

 

And Bowling for Columbine isn't about Bush (though it does take a few jabs) and it was, up until F911, the most successful documentary of all time

[Guest MikeSC]

Heh...good one!

 

I think he's independent...if a Democrat leader was President I think that Moore would be just the same (if they had done exactly what Bush has)

Wow.

 

I'm going to be nice and just say, I think you give Moore far more credit than he deserves.

 

INFINITELY more credit.

Well... he did bash Clinton on a fairly consistant basis and even called him the best "republican" president in our history

Which is INFINITELY tamer than what he calls Bush, let's be honest.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Mikey ain't a Democrat, but he's far from an independant. You can say he's an "independant free-thinker" but it's downright laughable to think lardo is an "independant." And for the record I think O'Reilly is more of an independant than Mikey.

 

Whether you agree with that sentiment or not is irrelevant... it's really not a complicated thing to understand...

[Guest thebigjig]

Heh...good one!

 

I think he's independent...if a Democrat leader was President I think that Moore would be just the same (if they had done exactly what Bush has)

Wow.

 

I'm going to be nice and just say, I think you give Moore far more credit than he deserves.

 

INFINITELY more credit.

Well... he did bash Clinton on a fairly consistant basis and even called him the best "republican" president in our history

Which is INFINITELY tamer than what he calls Bush, let's be honest.

-=Mike

An argument could be made that Bush is INFINITELY more controversial (policy wise, not privately) than Clinton... but if we argue that, we'll get into a huge Bush vs. Clinton debate which is irrelevant to the topic anyway

 

The point remains... that while he obviously disliked Clinton, he HATES Bush... and I'm sorry pal, hating Bush does not by default make you a democrat

[Guest thebigjig]

Mikey ain't a Democrat, but he's far from an independant. You can say he's an "independant free-thinker" but it's downright laughable to think lardo is an "independant." And for the record I think O'Reilly is more of an independant than Mikey.

 

Whether you agree with that sentiment or not is irrelevant... it's really not a complicated thing to understand...

Independant does not signify one party as a whole... it means free of political party... so therefor, Mikey is an independant. It doesn't really fucking matter who you think is "more" independant... I mean, heck (trademark - MikeSC), there isn't even an independant base as far as political ideals are concerned

 

it's really not a complicated thing to understand

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

But the problem is Mikey is a socialist -- this "independent" self-label is nothing more than a smokescreen...

[Guest thebigjig]

But the problem is Mikey is a socialist -- this "independent" self-label is nothing more than a smokescreen...

But is there even an official socialist party? If so, is he a card carrying member? Maybe I'm confused, but I was under the impression that if you registered as indepedant, then technically all that meant is that you don't belong to the Republican or Democratic party... you could be an independant and vote Green... libertarian... reform... american... republican... democrat...

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I'm sure there is, and I'm sure Mikey isn't.

 

And you can be a Dem/Rep and vote Green... libertarian... reform... american...

 

Just because you belong to a certain party doesn't mean you agree with them all the time.

 

Since we're going to be slapping dicks over this until the cows comes home I'm done talking about this -- for now...

[Vyce 0]

Mikey ain't a Democrat, but he's far from an independant. You can say he's an "independant free-thinker" but it's downright laughable to think lardo is an "independant." And for the record I think O'Reilly is more of an independant than Mikey.

 

Whether you agree with that sentiment or not is irrelevant... it's really not a complicated thing to understand...

Independant does not signify one party as a whole... it means free of political party... so therefor, Mikey is an independant. It doesn't really fucking matter who you think is "more" independant... I mean, heck (trademark - MikeSC), there isn't even an independant base as far as political ideals are concerned

 

it's really not a complicated thing to understand

Well then, Jesus, I suppose that you and everyone else here should just go ahead and acknowledge that I'm an independent.

 

Because, after all, while I'm registered to vote, I'm not registered as a Democrat, or a Republican, or any other party whatsoever.

[NoCalMike 0]

Ok HERE is the reality. Registering with a political party is just the necessary first step that is required before you vote. A lot of people just sign up with the first booth/table setup in the mall or where ever they are signing folks up. From then on out you can vote for whoever the hell you want to. I am "registered" as a democrat, which in REALITY only has to do with the media being able to give out statistics on the number of people registered, oh and I get a "please give me money" letter in the mail everytime elections swing by.

 

No one is binded to vote according to who you registered with, so technically EVERYONE is an indepedenet as far as VOTING goes, unless you take it upon yourself to vote down party lines on purpose......

[Dr. Tom 0]

Ok HERE is the reality. Registering with a political party is just the necessary first step that is required before you vote.

Actually, some states require you to vote for a candidate of your party in the primary elections. MD is one of these, so Democrats can only vote for one of their own, ditto Republicans. Registered Independents (like yours truly) can vote for a candidate of either party. In the real elections, of course, you're free to vote for whomever you choose.

[NoCalMike 0]

Ok HERE is the reality.  Registering with a political party is just the necessary first step that is required before you vote.

Actually, some states require you to vote for a candidate of your party in the primary elections. MD is one of these, so Democrats can only vote for one of their own, ditto Republicans. Registered Independents (like yours truly) can vote for a candidate of either party. In the real elections, of course, you're free to vote for whomever you choose.

well then as far as primary elections go. I stand corrected...

[Jingus 0]

So, to sum it all up:

 

If you vote, but you're not registered with any individual political party, you are, by definition, an independent.

 

Okay? Case closed. Next.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I'm 99% sure that in PA Dems can only vote for Dems in the primary, Reps. can only vote for Reps., and the Mikey Moores are just s.o.l. Personally I agree with this. Primary season is to elect a Party's candidate for the general election. Party's not affiliated shouldn't get a say...

[tommytomlin 0]

What a retarded system. Why must you register with a party before you vote in a regular election?

[Guest MikeSC]

What a retarded system. Why must you register with a party before you vote?

To try and make sure that people who oppose a party won't mass vote for a very weak candidate in the primary to hurt their chosen incumbant.

 

Why should a Democrat have any say over the Republican nominee?

-=Mike