snuffbox 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 How old is Obama? Could he run for 2008 if Kerry doesn't pull it off? Heh. It's going to take a lot more than 4 short years for America to get anywhere close to electing a black president, no matter how good of a speaker he is. Besides, NO WAY the Democrats EVER would vote for a black man to be President. The first black President will be a Republican. -=Mike O Definitly.... After all, 'The Republican Party is the party of Abraham Lincoln' - George Bush Its kinda sad when our president doesnt even understand the history of his own party....how Dems/Reps switched platforms...how Lincoln would respect maybe 3 people in the entire current administration... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 EVERYONE seems to have a crush on this Obama guy... he's the new rockstar of the Democratic party I'm sorry but Republicans only WISH they had speakers like Obama and Edwards on their team Yeah, pity neither of them is the choice for the democrats to run against an easy target. Two awesome speakers and the nomination is going to the walking borg John Kerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 Just wait and see... The Dems, Sharpton, Jackson, et al NEED black people to be dependent. Once a huge majority of blacks become successful, they won't need or want to pay for social programs and the like. That means less money for black "leaders" and fewer votes for the Dems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 What's really the point of arguing which party is going to elect a black president? It's not going to happen to EITHER party any time soon. It'll be AT LEAST a DECADE, if not longer, before we come anywhere close as a nation to electing a black president. The Dems, Sharpton, Jackson, et al NEED black people to be dependent. Once a huge majority of blacks become successful, they won't need or want to pay for social programs and the like. That means less money for black "leaders" and fewer votes for the Dems. I don't know if it's fair to say that for all Dems or black leaders, but that's most definitely true for Sharpton & Jackson. Once the majority of black America realizes they can do quite well for themselves withOUT the leadership of either Al or Jackson, both of those men are royally screwed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 29, 2004 How old is Obama? Could he run for 2008 if Kerry doesn't pull it off? Heh. It's going to take a lot more than 4 short years for America to get anywhere close to electing a black president, no matter how good of a speaker he is. Besides, NO WAY the Democrats EVER would vote for a black man to be President. The first black President will be a Republican. -=Mike O Definitly.... After all, 'The Republican Party is the party of Abraham Lincoln' - George Bush Its kinda sad when our president doesnt even understand the history of his own party....how Dems/Reps switched platforms...how Lincoln would respect maybe 3 people in the entire current administration... I could mention that Lincoln was actually a rather racist individual --- do you still want to claim Abe is one of yours? Oh wait, that WOULD fit in with the Democrats... It's amazing that the Dems never have had to answer for their history of unmitigated racism, Jim Crow, and the like. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 How old is Obama? Could he run for 2008 if Kerry doesn't pull it off? Heh. It's going to take a lot more than 4 short years for America to get anywhere close to electing a black president, no matter how good of a speaker he is. Besides, NO WAY the Democrats EVER would vote for a black man to be President. The first black President will be a Republican. -=Mike O Definitly.... After all, 'The Republican Party is the party of Abraham Lincoln' - George Bush Its kinda sad when our president doesnt even understand the history of his own party....how Dems/Reps switched platforms...how Lincoln would respect maybe 3 people in the entire current administration... I could mention that Lincoln was actually a rather racist individual --- do you still want to claim Abe is one of yours? Oh wait, that WOULD fit in with the Democrats... It's amazing that the Dems never have had to answer for their history of unmitigated racism, Jim Crow, and the like. -=Mike Ever get the feeling the Democratic party just has a much better PR department than the Republicans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted July 29, 2004 How old is Obama? Could he run for 2008 if Kerry doesn't pull it off? Heh. It's going to take a lot more than 4 short years for America to get anywhere close to electing a black president, no matter how good of a speaker he is. Besides, NO WAY the Democrats EVER would vote for a black man to be President. The first black President will be a Republican. -=Mike O Definitly.... After all, 'The Republican Party is the party of Abraham Lincoln' - George Bush Its kinda sad when our president doesnt even understand the history of his own party....how Dems/Reps switched platforms...how Lincoln would respect maybe 3 people in the entire current administration... I could mention that Lincoln was actually a rather racist individual --- do you still want to claim Abe is one of yours? Oh wait, that WOULD fit in with the Democrats... It's amazing that the Dems never have had to answer for their history of unmitigated racism, Jim Crow, and the like. -=Mike If we're going to argue this IRRELEVANT shit, let me throw in something to chew on... Round up 100 KKK members and ask them what party they more closely identify with... Republicans or Democrats I'll bet my weekly pay check the answer is Republicans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 29, 2004 Well, they have Hollywood. And the mainstream media. -=Mike ...Who wonders where in the hell Ben Affleck gets off telling people how to live their lives properly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesse_ewiak 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 Yes, that mainsteam media that had Ralph Reed and Zell Miller on right after Edward's speech. I bet CNN won't be having Dean or Pelosi on to rebut Cheyney or Ahrnold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 How old is Obama? Could he run for 2008 if Kerry doesn't pull it off? Heh. It's going to take a lot more than 4 short years for America to get anywhere close to electing a black president, no matter how good of a speaker he is. Besides, NO WAY the Democrats EVER would vote for a black man to be President. The first black President will be a Republican. -=Mike O Definitly.... After all, 'The Republican Party is the party of Abraham Lincoln' - George Bush Its kinda sad when our president doesnt even understand the history of his own party....how Dems/Reps switched platforms...how Lincoln would respect maybe 3 people in the entire current administration... I could mention that Lincoln was actually a rather racist individual --- do you still want to claim Abe is one of yours? Oh wait, that WOULD fit in with the Democrats... It's amazing that the Dems never have had to answer for their history of unmitigated racism, Jim Crow, and the like. -=Mike Again....the parties completely switched platforms... Abe the Racist did a couple decent things for black people....I think... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 Come on, Mike, don't you know that Hollywood votes Nader? At any rate, the convention protestors haven't been seen, which is hilarious, I drove to Boston yesterday, had the easiest ride out of the city I've ever had, no problems. Seems like the "nightmare" the Boston Herald went on and on about was all for naught. However, let's see what Kerry does with his speech this evening...time will tell... --Ryan ...hoping to everything that Kerry doesn't fuck this up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 Come on, Mike, don't you know that Hollywood votes Nader? At any rate, the convention protestors haven't been seen, which is hilarious, I drove to Boston yesterday, had the easiest ride out of the city I've ever had, no problems. Seems like the "nightmare" the Boston Herald went on and on about was all for naught. However, let's see what Kerry does with his speech this evening...time will tell... --Ryan ...hoping to everything that Kerry doesn't fuck this up... If he does, frame him for a bank robbery and get a new candiate. After some of those speeches, it's a scary thought that the members of what would be the first family might have the two worst speeches. His wife was nutty as a fruitcake and so it's up to Kerry to save the family name. Why DIDN'T Edwards win the nomination again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesse_ewiak 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 No Military experience to be honest. If there wasn't a 9/11, well, Bush would probably be a sitting duck and Gore would've been renominated. But if he hadn't run, and Edwards had....easy nomination win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 So will the DNC and Sen. Kerry even sniff anything substantive tonight? So far... diddly shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Seems like the "nightmare" the Boston Herald went on and on about was all for naught. The Boston Herald seems to be the most conservative paper in Boston which means it's read by 50 people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I'll admit, if it were Edwards, I'd be way more concerned over Dubya's chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 The Herald sells better at the newsstand, but because it isn't delivered, the Globe WHOOPS its ass. --Ryan ...who thinks Kerry is doing pretty well so far (10 minutes in)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Wow, this is one lukewarm audience for the candidate Kerry. -=Mike ...John is WELL behind many others in terms of actually generating ENERGY in the audience... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 He's gotta work on his speech giving skills, he bounces around a little too much and his hand gesture are very useless and don't fit. Still, not a bad speech so far. "The future belongs to freedom" sounds like a movie tagline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Economic plan, anyone? Oh, and Mike: where are you watching, because Kerry has gotten some pretty good responses...not as large as Clinton, but hey, who does? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I'm still waiting for every sentence to end with "help is on the way". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Wow, this is one lukewarm audience for the candidate Kerry. -=Mike ...John is WELL behind many others in terms of actually generating ENERGY in the audience... Unpress the mute button. Shithead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Oh, and Mike: where are you watching, because Kerry has gotten some pretty good responses...not as large as Clinton, but hey, who does? Al Sharpton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards? They all got pretty darn big reactions. I wonder what would happen if Bill Clinton was able to run for president once again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Oh, and Mike: where are you watching, because Kerry has gotten some pretty good responses...not as large as Clinton, but hey, who does? Al Sharpton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards? They all got pretty darn big reactions. I wonder what would happen if Bill Clinton was able to run for president once again. He would continue to be elected until he died, then what's left of his penis will be re-elected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Herman Munster is quite over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Solid speech, I must say. Not as great as it could have been, but I did appreciate the "Taking the High Road" approach to the campaign. Let's see how long it lasts, and who starts firing at the other. Kerry did well at finally defining himself, instead of just being the guy that's not George W. Bush. He seemed to almost be moving to the right further about the military, although God only knows where that money would be coming from. He kept Vietnam more subdued than I thought he would...which hey, I'm happy with. Stem-cell research could have been a bit of a no-no, though. Time will tell. --Ryan ...who's happy with the speech, and ready to see if Kerry can win this damn thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 The highlight was hearing the convention director's microphone on CNN after Kerry's speech, yelling at the crew to 'drop more fucking balloons!'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Put me down as really liking this speech. This speech got me energized. It's true I'm la liberal, but I've listened to GWB's speeches with what I think is a pretty open mind and they did not energize me. Go Johnny Go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I'm sorry, but seeing that huge fucking bouncy ball going in front of the Pastor during this moment of prayer is fucking hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Economic plan, anyone? Oh, and Mike: where are you watching, because Kerry has gotten some pretty good responses...not as large as Clinton, but hey, who does? Not even close to the largest reactions at the convention PERIOD. That is sad, considering that he's, you know, the CANDIDATE and all. Unpress the mute button. Shithead. Ah, more of the intellectual discourse that makes HD the running joke it is amongst people who manage to avoid having their knuckles drag on the ground. Go home, son. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
