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[Guest Loss]

STATEMENT: Chris Benoit will be right back in the midcard by the end of the year.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Statement: Taker's Whacky MMA Submissions will one day get over.

Rebuttal: For the most part, they already are. People buy the Dragon Sleeper and Triangle Choke and the others are over enough on rareness alone (I.E. Hey, when was the last time he did a Short Arm Scissors?)

[Promoter 0]

Rebuttal: Orton/Cena has more chance of being like HHH/Rock than Austin/Rock. Austin/Rock is the Hogan/Savage of the attitude era. Rock is Savage to Austin's Hogan.

[The Mandarin 0]

Statement: Christopher Nowinski was the only Tough Enough grad with potential.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

STATEMENT: Chris Benoit will be right back in the midcard by the end of the year.

Rebuttal: Disagreed. Benoit will be a permanent fixture in the midcard by February. He'll bounce around the mid card - upper midcard until then.

[Dark Age 0]

STATEMENT: Triple H/Booker T at Mania XIX is one of the most underrated WWE matches in recent years.

[Promoter 0]

STATEMENT: Chris Benoit will be right back in the midcard by the end of the year.

Rebuttal: Disagreed. Benoit will be a permanent fixture in the midcard by February. He'll bounce around the mid card - upper midcard until then.

Rebuttal: He'll be in a tag team with Chris Jericho against La Resistance by the time WM 21 rolls around

[razazteca 0]

Statement: Christopher Nowinski was the only Tough Enough grad with potential.

Rebuttal: 5 women from the current Diva Search will be on WWE tv on a regular basis in 6 months.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

STATEMENT: Triple H/Booker T at Mania XIX is one of the most underrated WWE matches in recent years.

Rebuttal: False. It wasn't even the most underrated match on the card (Taker vs. Albert/Show).

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Statement: Christopher Nowinski was the only Tough Enough grad with potential.

Rebuttal: 5 women from the current Diva Search will be on WWE tv on a regular basis in 6 months.

Rebuttal: 5 women from the current Diva Search will be on Vince McMahon on a regular basis in 6 months.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Statement: Rey Misterio should be permanently removed from the Cruiser Division and made a legit upper-midcard player. Furthermore, he should hold the US Title at least once before WMXXI rolls around.

[The Mandarin 0]

Statement: This website would not exist if not for Vince McMahon Sr.

[razazteca 0]

Statement: Christopher Nowinski was the only Tough Enough grad with potential.

Rebuttal: 5 women from the current Diva Search will be on WWE tv on a regular basis in 6 months.

Rebuttal: 5 women from the current Diva Search will be on Vince McMahon on a regular basis in 6 months.

Rebuttal: Vince will mock the Apprentice show by saying YOU'RE FIRED to the divas. Vince is jealous of the Donald, Mark Cuban, and that guy who owns the Virgin company.

[The Dames 0]

Statement: This website would not exist if not for Vince McMahon Sr.

Rebuttal: This site would not exist if not for Damian Gonzalez, Jr.

 

Dames - Just Kidding....

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Statement: This website would not exist if not for Vince McMahon Sr.

Rebuttal: This website wouldn't be around if Vince McMahon Jr. took over his father's company. The NWA or AWA had the chance to take over but we're too busy doing the territorial thing. Vince Jr. decided to take over the world.

 

 

 

 

Statement: Despite what people say, HHH loves this business because he probably wrestled more that most than the roster and he only left to film one thing.

[The Dames 0]

Statement: Despite what people say, HHH loves this business because he probably wrestled more that most than the roster and he only left to film one thing.

Rebuttal: I don't deny that HHH loves professional wrestling, but if truly loved the business, he wouldn't have put himself in the top spot at the expense of others, which have caused a decrease in revenue, ratings, profits and overall morale for the business he "loves".

 

Dames

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

My thing w/ Angle is that he can only claim one legit "great" match in the history of his WWE career and that's vs Benoit @ Rumble 2003. His promo's for the most part suck and are overrated as 90% of it is head bobbing and mispronouncing people's name (I bet to this day he still can't say Triple H). At times he has shown little to no grasp of in-ring psychology. Tons of good matches, a few very good ones but for a guy who's considered a legend in the sport his body of work doesn't show it.

 

I'm in agreement, however, that he has never been booked well either, specifically his first two title runs which were abortions.

I honestly think Austin/Angle SS 01 is a great match in every sense of the word.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Edit: *that's also assuming that Flair was infact -at one time- the GOAL, which IMO he wasn't. His promos were fantastic, but I can think of some who did it better. His matches -at times- were great, but I can think of a lot who did it better.

But NO ONE did both as well.

 

Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER.

[The Dames 0]

I agree with you Zsasz. Great match which is marred by the finish.

 

Unfortunately, despite being the main event on WWE's #2 show of the year, the build up, story and payoff for Angle/Austin was VERY weak which hurt the match's heat a bit, I'd say.

 

Dames

[Guest Staravenger]

Statement: Velocity is more entertaining than Smackdown, and rarely ever showcases anyone above the mid-card.

 

Statement: Smackdown needs Hulk Hogan.

 

Statement: JBL needs to wear the Cowboy hat when he wrestles for a comic purpose.

[Guest nWoCHRISnWo]

But NO ONE did both as well.

 

Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER.

Rebuttal: Steve Austin has done both as well or better than Flair. HE'S the greatest all around performer ever.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Edit: *that's also assuming that Flair was infact -at one time- the GOAT, which IMO he wasn't.  His promos were fantastic, but I can think of some who did it better.  His matches -at times- were great, but I can think of a lot who did it better.

But NO ONE did both as well.

 

Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER.

No. Hogan and/or Austin is.

 

In terms of all around _performance_, those two have Flair beat. Austin was able to have better "peak" promos and matches, and Hogan had greater matches and was able to captivate a greater audience.

[The C Man 0]

Statement: The Dynamite Kid is the most influential wrestler ever.

 

(I won't deny he was a dick, though)

[Angle-plex 0]

Statement: Taker's Whacky MMA Submissions will one day get over.

False. They are boring, don't go with this character, and nobody buys them as a move that would actually end a match.

 

Statement: This website would not exist if not for Vince McMahon Sr.

 

This website would not exist without Stephen.....nevermind.

 

Statement: Despite what people say, HHH loves this business because he probably wrestled more that most than the roster and he only left to film one thing.

 

Agree. He thinks what he does politically is good for business.

 

Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER.

 

No. Austin/HBK/Bret are people I would rank above all of him, and possibly even Hogan despite his shitty in-ring work.

[Dark Age 0]

Edit: *that's also assuming that Flair was infact -at one time- the GOAT, which IMO he wasn't.  His promos were fantastic, but I can think of some who did it better.  His matches -at times- were great, but I can think of a lot who did it better.

But NO ONE did both as well.

 

Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER.

No. Hogan and/or Austin is.

 

In terms of all around _performance_, those two have Flair beat. Austin was able to have better "peak" promos and matches, and Hogan had greater matches and was able to captivate a greater audience.

If you're including Hogan, then why not Rocky?

[The Mandarin 0]

Statement: The Dynamite Kid is the most influential wrestler ever.

Statement?: Dynamite Kid is also the biggest asshole of a wrestler ever.

 

(I won't deny that he was a great wrestler, though.)

[Guest Staravenger]

Statement: Randy Orton is a better World Champion than Justin Hawk Bradshaw.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Statement: The Dynamite Kid is the most influential wrestler ever.

Disagreed. Though he influenced guys like Lyger, Benoit, Kikuchi, I believe Karl Gotch had greater influence as he helped train a generation of Japanese wrestlers like Inoki, Fujinami, Fujiwara, Sayama, Maeda, Matsuda, Takada etc. who all -in turn-, helped influence another generation of wrestlers.

 

However, a case could be made for Billy Riley who helped train Dynamite Kid, Billy Robinson, and Gotch (who credits Riley for his success).

 

Verne Gagne also helped train and mold a lot of wrestlers as-well-as Dory Funk Jr.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Edit: *that's also assuming that Flair was infact -at one time- the GOAT, which IMO he wasn't.  His promos were fantastic, but I can think of some who did it better.  His matches -at times- were great, but I can think of a lot who did it better.

But NO ONE did both as well.

 

Ric Flair IS the greatest all around performer EVER.

No. Hogan and/or Austin is.

 

In terms of all around _performance_, those two have Flair beat. Austin was able to have better "peak" promos and matches, and Hogan had greater matches and was able to captivate a greater audience.

If you're including Hogan, then why not Rocky?

I don't see the Rock on Hogan and Austins level. Rock rode Austins wave and even though he became more successful than Austin, he didn't have the same connection with the fans that Austin had. The crowd turns so easily on the Rock, while it's incredibly hard to get them to boo Hogan or Austin. It takes a certain talent to develop that bond between fan and wrestler, Hogan and Austin did it very well. Flair did too, for that matter.

[Angle-plex 0]

Statement: Bob Sapp will become a WWE wrestler within the next 5 years.

 

Statement: Randy Orton is a better World Champion than Justin Hawk Bradshaw.

 

To early in Orton's reign to tell.