jester 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2004 Statement: There will NEVER be a WarGames match in the WWE. Rebuttal: With Ric Flair in the company, and Triple H's love for old NWA wrestling, and also the opportunity for an Evolution vs. Randy Orton led-group in the match at Survivor Series, I think there's a very good possibility of the WWE using Wargames. Correction: It will be used as soon as someone convinces Vince that it was his idea. "Hey Vince, remember that great idea you had that Dusty Rhodes totally stole...what was it called again...war games? Why don't we take that idea back and have our boys show how it's really done?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 24, 2004 And another statement: Vince will have employed Abyss and/or Burchill by this time next year. Rebuttal: TNA has Abyss under contract for quite some time... Too bad no one can grasp the concept of the term "under contract." Statement: Abyss > Most WWE Hosses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slabinskia 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2004 Statement:wwe should go back to only 4 ppvs a year.they will seem much more important then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2004 And another statement: Vince will have employed Abyss and/or Burchill by this time next year. Rebuttal: TNA has Abyss under contract for quite some time... Too bad no one can grasp the concept of the term "under contract." Well you got me there...I don't know the exact length and terms of Abyss' contract with TNA. Ooh, do I ever feel like an idiot. Statement:wwe should go back to only 4 ppvs a year.they will seem much more important then. Rebuttal: 4 is too few PPVs a year when you consider that there are bi-weekly shows these days and the storylines need to move at a quicker pace than they used to. Audiences don't have the attention span to wait 3-4 months for a blow-off to every feud. 8 - 12 PPVs a year is the best amount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dazed Report post Posted August 24, 2004 Statement:wwe should go back to only 4 ppvs a year.they will seem much more important then. Rebuttal: There's much less money in that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2004 Statement: In it's entire history, TNA has never been as good as the WWE. Rebuttal: They had a run of really good shows last summer, that climaxed with the Super X Cup show. Everything from the Anniversary show to then was way better than anything in WWE. So they had about a ten week run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Statement: In it's entire history, TNA has never been as good as the WWE. Rebuttal: They had a run of really good shows last summer, that climaxed with the Super X Cup show. Everything from the Anniversary show to then was way better than anything in WWE. So they had about a ten week run. Nah, I've seen some of that, and it came around the same time Guerrero was having the matches of his life, Angle and UT had a great TV match, and Brock just got the title back. Plus, I think the Lesnar/Angle Iron Man (for all it's faults) was better than any one match they put on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 I'm pretty sure that the end of the run (X-Cup) came right at the time SmackDown'a good little run started (just after SummerSlam, IMO, though it was still decent before that). Though I did feel that the 6 shows following SummerSlam were all really good. Then it started sucking again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Rebuttal: TNA was hotter from October 2002 until April 30th, 2003 than WWE was, and the summer of 2003 is when it started becoming dreck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Rebuttal: TNA was hotter from October 2002 until April 30th, 2003 than WWE was, and the summer of 2003 is when it started becoming dreck. Rebuttal: November 2002. SmackDown in Oct. 2002 was off the charts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 I'm comparing it to both Raw and SmackDown, and Raw was absolutely dreadful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Statement: How soon will it be before Raw becomes a glorified reality tv game show without any actual wrestling at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Statement: How soon will it be before Raw becomes a glorified reality tv game show without any actual wrestling at all? Rebuttal: Monday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 25, 2004 I'm comparing it to both Raw and SmackDown, and Raw was absolutely dreadful. Yeah, but you didn't have to pay for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 I'm comparing it to both Raw and SmackDown, and Raw was absolutely dreadful. Yeah, but you didn't have to pay for it. 4 TNA PPVs = 1 WWE PPV in price? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Statement: Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter will become a fixture on Smackdown! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Rebuttal: That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in the last fifteen minutes. You should be ashamed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Statement: LA PARKA~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 25, 2004 To try and help this out: The WWE giving World Titles to "unproven draws" is EXACTLY what they need to do. You cannot develop new stars without taking risks. Orton is a very, very good pick and JBL --- much as people hate him --- has delivered the goods as a singles worker. People griped that the WWE's ME structure was too static, and then gripe when "unproven" guys are placed on top. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 To try and help this out: The WWE giving World Titles to "unproven draws" is EXACTLY what they need to do. You cannot develop new stars without taking risks. Orton is a very, very good pick and JBL --- much as people hate him --- has delivered the goods as a singles worker. People griped that the WWE's ME structure was too static, and then gripe when "unproven" guys are placed on top. -=Mike Rebuttal: Now I'm not complaing about giving Orton the title. But it was way to soon for Bradshaw to be given the title. As soon as they introduced his character he was given a main event push. Where as they built up Orton to his eventual title win. A fued with John Cena, Rob Van Dam or Rey Mysterio Jr would of been nice before they put the title on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 25, 2004 To try and help this out: The WWE giving World Titles to "unproven draws" is EXACTLY what they need to do. You cannot develop new stars without taking risks. Orton is a very, very good pick and JBL --- much as people hate him --- has delivered the goods as a singles worker. People griped that the WWE's ME structure was too static, and then gripe when "unproven" guys are placed on top. -=Mike Rebuttal: Now I'm not complaing about giving Orton the title. But it was way to soon for Bradshaw to be given the title. As soon as they introduced his character he was given a main event push. Where as they built up Orton to his eventual title win. A fued with John Cena, Rob Van Dam or Rey Mysterio Jr would of been nice before they put the title on him. Rebuttal: They couldn't afford to have Cena put him over. That would kill Cena's character. And a win over Rey would mean nothing simply due to the size difference. Big man over small man --- no matter how good the small guy is --- just doesn't work all that well. RVD? I just don't see him able to work a match that wouldn't suck eggs against JBL. For all of his faults, JBL and Eddy meshed quite well together. Heck, I would think that Charlie Haas might be able to work with JBL and make it work well enough. Now, just don't give the belt to UT. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 I stole this statement from Mike, but ah well. STATEMENT: Spike Dudley could end up killing the CW division with his title run Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Rebuttal: Not if they build up a non-Rey Misterio face to take the belt off him. ... ... ... HAHAHAHAHAHA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Orton is a very, very good pick and JBL --- much as people hate him --- has delivered the goods as a singles worker. Rebuttal: JBL delivers the goods? Care to name them? I know his matches with Guerrero were praised, but as far as I can tell, JBL hasn't delivered any classic matches in his HISTORY with WWE, which is what? Eight years? I do, however, agree that giving unproven draws the belt is a good idea, but there would have been better candidates than JBL. STATEMENT: Spike Dudley could end up killing the CW division with his title run Wasn't it dead before? He COULD end up killing it I guess, but he could also livin' it up a bit. Depends on how he is booked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 25, 2004 STATEMENT: Spike Dudley could end up killing the CW division with his title run REBUTTAL: That's impossible.....it's been dead since they started it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 JBL --- much as people hate him --- has delivered the goods as a singles worker. Then maybe somebody should tell him to deliver up front because the back door is for unloading only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Orton is a very, very good pick and JBL --- much as people hate him --- has delivered the goods as a singles worker. Rebuttal: JBL delivers the goods? Care to name them? I know his matches with Guerrero were praised, but as far as I can tell, JBL hasn't delivered any classic matches in his HISTORY with WWE, which is what? Eight years? He does every thing right for a heel. His promos are so over-the-top they're hilarious, the gimmick he's using can draw universal heat from anywhere in the United States, and the match he works is perfect for a big agile heel. I do, however, agree that giving unproven draws the belt is a good idea, but there would have been better candidates than JBL. Name them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Statement: With his unique look, great in-ring presence, and great wrestling ability, Super Dragon would be a fantastic addition to Smackdown's Cruiserweight division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 25, 2004 I do, however, agree that giving unproven draws the belt is a good idea, but there would have been better candidates than JBL. Name them. Cena, Booker T, Charlie Haas, and Rob Van Dam(as much as I DON'T think he should be champion)would have been better choices IMO. Considering that they didn't have characters created and immediately pushed to the top of the SD brand. JBL didn't even get to establish himself as a heel for people to hate him, he's been going on the "X-Pac" heat now since he got his Million Dollar Man gimmick. He hasn't proved ANY value as far as match quality is concerned, and as far as his promo's go.....there simply NOTHING SPECIAL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2004 Statement: With his unique look, great in-ring presence, and great wrestling ability, Super Dragon would be a fantastic addition to Smackdown's Cruiserweight division. Rebuttal: That sounds great on paper, but he'd be given no special treatment (aka. TV time) and his work may be too stiff for WWE standards. If the Cruiserweight Division was actually a division, he'd do well if he allowed them to cut him off by the balls and trade in some of his unique offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
