Ced 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Source: The Magic Box Square Enix announced a new PS2 RPG called Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus, a sequel / spinoff of Final Fantasy VII. The story takes place one year after the events in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, in which you play as Vincent Valentine from FFVII, to battle against a group of enemies named the "Dirge of Cerberus", who started to attack the city. This game is a part of the company's Compilation of Final Fantasy VII strategy, which pursues polymorphic vision. Square Enix mentioned that this game will unfold the mysteries around the Final Fantasy VII world. The main character Vincent Valentine is a powerful gunner who born on October 13, he was put into a long sleep, atoning for past sins; until Cloud woke him up in the Shinra mansion in Nibelheim. Source: GameSpot TOKYO--According to the upcoming issue of Weekly Jump magazine, Square Enix is developing a Final Fantasy VII spin-off that will feature ex-Turks gunman Vincent as the main character. The game, which was first hinted at in April, will be titled Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII. The only information currently available on the game is that its story involves a mysterious group called the DGs attacking peaceful towns in the world. The game will take place one year after Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, the CG movie that recently premiered at the Venice Film Festival and is slated for release next year on DVD and the PlayStation Portable's UMD format. While Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII is slated for release on the PlayStation 2 in 2005, Square Enix lists the game's genre as "undetermined," which suggests that the game is still in the early stages of development. GameSpot will bring you more information on Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII as it becomes available. First the CG movie and now a new FFVII game. Nothing like bringing a cashcow back from the dead in order to milk it for all it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 (edited) Uh... Ced... This would actually be FFVII-3. There's also Before Crisis. While Before Crisis is only being released on Cell Phones, it is coming out before DoC:FFVII. And yes, that's just freaking nuts that they are pumping out sequels to games that did not need sequels to. I don't mind, FFVII: Advent Children. It's a movie, that's all. Edited September 17, 2004 by Lightning Flik Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ced 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Uh... Ced... This would actually be FFVII-3. There's also Before Crisis. While Before Crisis is only being released on Cell Phones, it is coming out before DoC:FFVII. I fail to recognize cell phone games as bonafide games. Blame the N-Gage for that. P.S. The sheer amount of otakudom contained within my post and Flik's post is causing my head to spin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Sounds cool. I want a Cait Sith game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 I'll be waiting for a Crono Trigger: Episode 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 I fail to recognize cell phone games as bonafide games. Blame the N-Gage for that. P.S. The sheer amount of otakudom contained within my post and Flik's post is causing my head to spin. I didn't mean it that way. I'm just saying though that technically BC comes before DC. ...hey. Is it just me or does the two names just have a simularity I stumbled upon by chance? BC and DC... Oh boy... And the amount of otakudom shall be raised when I put up my new avatar (should be momentarily splashed up) and for whenever I get around to getting that new banner I've been meaning to either, a - steal, or, b - create. Besides, I think us otaku are the greatest people on earth, because we are so friendly (I have yet to meet a bad otaku online or IRL). I'll be waiting for a Crono Trigger: Episode 2 I would kill for Chrono Trigger: Tale of Janus... But sadly, Square ain't budging on that one. Simply because they fucked up CC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaMarka 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 I fail to recognize cell phone games as bonafide games. Blame the N-Gage for that. P.S. The sheer amount of otakudom contained within my post and Flik's post is causing my head to spin. I didn't mean it that way. I'm just saying though that technically BC comes before DC. ...hey. Is it just me or does the two names just have a simularity I stumbled upon by chance? BC and DC... Oh boy... And the amount of otakudom shall be raised when I put up my new avatar (should be momentarily splashed up) and for whenever I get around to getting that new banner I've been meaning to either, a - steal, or, b - create. Besides, I think us otaku are the greatest people on earth, because we are so friendly (I have yet to meet a bad otaku online or IRL). I'll be waiting for a Crono Trigger: Episode 2 I would kill for Chrono Trigger: Tale of Janus... But sadly, Square ain't budging on that one. Simply because they fucked up CC. Damn it, you have the cast of Disgaea in your avatar. You fucking rule. Meh, anyone hear much about advent children? It looks kinda weak. I should stop posting while drunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 I'm waiting an extra year for Kingdom Hearts 2 for this shit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 ^ What he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Well, at least they chose the right character to base it around - Vincent was woefully misused in FFVII. One question though: the company's Compilation of Final Fantasy VII strategy What's this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Isn't "otaku" supposed to be a derogatory word, meaning "dangerously obsessed" or something? Doesn't sound like anything I'd embrace but then again I'm not Wapanese so I don't know how the whole culture operates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Isn't "otaku" supposed to be a derogatory word, meaning "dangerously obsessed" or something? Doesn't sound like anything I'd embrace but then again I'm not Wapanese so I don't know how the whole culture operates. In Japan, yes it is. It's pretty much equivalent to our "fanboy" or "fangirl," I think. However, in the US it's just used as a term for an anime fan that seems to be quite knowledgeable about the medium. Although plenty of them do get obsessed, getting waaaay too deep into it and thinking Japan is some sort of perfect, ideal society. Plus, many of them forsake other sorts of normal, healthy intellectual stimulation as a trade off. I've been banned from 3 message boards for daring to criticize the Japanese culture, although I said nothing more scathing than you'd hear from the "Invasion of the Neptune Men" ep of MST3K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 And remember boys and girls: Kamui is an otaku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Isn't "otaku" supposed to be a derogatory word, meaning "dangerously obsessed" or something? Doesn't sound like anything I'd embrace but then again I'm not Wapanese so I don't know how the whole culture operates. In Japan, yes it is. It's pretty much equivalent to our "fanboy" or "fangirl," I think. However, in the US it's just used as a term for an anime fan that seems to be quite knowledgeable about the medium. Although plenty of them do get obsessed, getting waaaay too deep into it and thinking Japan is some sort of perfect, ideal society. Plus, many of them forsake other sorts of normal, healthy intellectual stimulation as a trade off. I don't have a problem with learning about Japanese culture, because I like learning about other countries. I also play Final Fantasy IV through VII from time to time. But the people who refuse to look at any girl that isn't Japanese, never leave their basements, and go on and on about "Japan is the best country in the world! America sucks, I'm gonna live in Japan! Baku-baka notaku, L0SERZ!" Um...Japan is one of the most xenophobic, supremacist, racist nations on the planet. You'd be even less accepted by society over in Tokyo than any city in the U.S. Sorry to say it, but it's true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Yes... but the women there love large, American penis. (/south park) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 I've got Shoe. (more South Park) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Yes... but the women there love large, American penis. (/south park) Joking or no, I believe population growth in Japan has really slowed down--may even be negative. A large portion of the men either turn to porn or hookers to get their rocks off, and given the choice between a foreign man or a Japanese one. Japanese chicks almost overwhelmingly prefer foreigners (mainly white men), and many of them find Japanese men unattractive. Unsurprisingly, many Japanese guys are very attracted to big-bosomed blondes (i.e. 90% of anime), and aren't as attracted to their own women. However, as far as jobs go, there's a lot of prejudice against foreigners. Although probably white hookers and gigolos do alright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 (edited) Damn it, you have the cast of Disgaea in your avatar. You fucking rule. Meh, anyone hear much about advent children? It looks kinda weak. I should stop posting while drunk. First of all, thank you for thinking I rule. However, I cannot take credit, I stole this from someone... But I appreciate the ruleness. Maybe I should pop up the NIS banner into my sig if everyone loves Disgaea so much *banner has now been added*. Check the second trailer for Advent Children. I watched like 5 times last night. Needless to say, I'm sucked into it. Everyone loves the drunken posts LPM. Don't fret about it. Although, I will never post drunk, simply because I've never been drunk nor do I ever wanna be. *can hear a hoard of TSMs planning to get me drunk* ...aw Bloody Hades, I knew I should've kept my mouth shut. I'm waiting an extra year for Kingdom Hearts 2 for this shit? Actually Andrew, probably not, since only half of who was needed (100 to 50 I think) to produce FF:WS created FF:AC. Yeah, I don't get how that works, but apparently it does. Everything has been pushed back into the next year as I think they are trying to spread out the games a little better (and I mean all video gaming companies). Well, at least they chose the right character to base it around - Vincent was woefully misused in FFVII. One question though: the company's Compilation of Final Fantasy VII strategy What's this? Vincent? Misued? More like "we'll toss in a guy that deserves his own game, but shaft his story and potential in this game". As for the compilation, it means that expect to know a lot more about the world of Final Fantasy VII than you'd want (meaning probably they are making FFVII into a series of games and movies). In Japan, yes it is. It's pretty much equivalent to our "fanboy" or "fangirl," I think. However, in the US it's just used as a term for an anime fan that seems to be quite knowledgeable about the medium. Although plenty of them do get obsessed, getting waaaay too deep into it and thinking Japan is some sort of perfect, ideal society. Plus, many of them forsake other sorts of normal, healthy intellectual stimulation as a trade off. I've been banned from 3 message boards for daring to criticize the Japanese culture, although I said nothing more scathing than you'd hear from the "Invasion of the Neptune Men" ep of MST3K. Meh... I'm not that obessessed with the Japanese culture to think they are deities or something. Just a lot of their culture I find interesting. And I certainly don't mind questioning of the Japanese culture. I mean, there are somethings that you just go "why"; like rorikon (also see: lolikon or lolicon, for those of you who were like me and went, "ok, what's this... OMG! NO! WRONG! SO WRONG!"*****). As a matter of fact, I do have a life outside of anime and gaming otaku. Just, haven't explored it fully since I'm in college right now. And remember boys and girls: Kamui is an otaku. Don't mention him... God, him and his all superior attitude made me fearful of saying "watashi no otaku." ...yeah, to anyone who can translate that sentence, I'm fully aware that the syntax and how it is meant is wrong. Um...Japan is one of the most xenophobic, supremacist, racist nations on the planet. You'd be even less accepted by society over in Tokyo than any city in the U.S. Sorry to say it, but it's true. They aren't that bad... They just have a set way of life that you have to uphold to have any respect in their culture. However, you don't, then you are screwed. And because many people don't know the majority of their customs, they get set in the dog house easily. I don't know all of them myself, but I have been told that very fact by many Japanese transfer students who were in my high school way back when. ***** The Warning Provided For Rorikon is in spoilers, highlight at own risk: It's guy with littlle girl usually of the age 12 or less. So freaking wrong... Edited September 17, 2004 by Lightning Flik Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 "They just have a set way of life that you have to uphold to have any respect in their culture. However, you don't, then you are screwed." Yeah; for starters, don't express any individuality. If you're a woman, get used to men treating you like shit. Great customs there. I know you aren't like that Flik, although many are. On one board I'd heard someone complaining about what IGA did with the storylines of CV. He'd complained that he'd completely ignored and wiped out the work of the folks who did the N64 games. He would not ever shut up about it either. For a lot of people, the fact that he cared *that much* about the storyline of *Castlevania* would be bad enough. However, his constant bitching made it completely unbearable. "Actually Andrew, probably not, since only half of who was needed (100 to 50 I think) to produce FF:WS created FF:AC. Yeah, I don't get how that works, but apparently it does. Everything has been pushed back into the next year as I think they are trying to spread out the games a little better (and I mean all video gaming companies)." Could you clarify that first part again? I have no idea what "FF:WS" is. My point was that Square's not exactly too concerned with KH2, giving it the shaft so they can put out more Final Fantasy in the meantime. Whoopie. "Spacing" them out would seemingly make more sense if there's less Final Fantasy being released in a row. Plus, Square USA would be doing the translations/re-recordings, right? It wouldn't really be holding up Square Japan. Of course, I don't know when this is supposed to come out.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Could you clarify that first part again? I have no idea what "FF:WS" is. My point was that Square's not exactly too concerned with KH2, giving it the shaft so they can put out more Final Fantasy in the meantime. Whoopie. "Spacing" them out would seemingly make more sense if there's less Final Fantasy being released in a row. Plus, Square USA would be doing the translations/re-recordings, right? It wouldn't really be holding up Square Japan. Of course, I don't know when this is supposed to come out.... FF:SW is what I meant to put. Final Fantasy: Spirits Within, my bad. Kingdom Hearts 2 is currently slated for Quarter 2 or 3 (3 being push back date if needed, as you know how Square loves to push things back). FF:AC is slated for sooner than that (if I'm not wrong it's already out in Japan, so it's only like Q4 this year to late Q1 next), but that is because it was actually in process before KH2. And we have totally deviated away from the purpose of this thread. Personally, I'm intrigued about the new game, and wonder just how much tiding up FF:AC does then, if the new game continues a year after AC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 Kingdom Hearts 2 is currently slated for Quarter 2 or 3 (3 being push back date if needed, as you know how Square loves to push things back). http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/36533.html KH2 is currently supposed to be coming out 9-14-05--an entire year from now, and 10 months from its current Japanese release date. That's before any *future* delays, so I think we'll be lucky to actually get the US version before 2006. It used to be 2/3rd quarter, but they pushed that back to focus on other projects (which was explained in the GMR covering early KH2 info, I do believe). FF:SW is what I meant to put. Final Fantasy: Spirits Within, my bad. Oh--well, I *thought* the shots I saw were actually less complex than TSW, so that's not all that surprising that it had a smaller team. However, Square wouldn't even need to release Advent Children by themselves in America. They could license it to an American anime publisher--ADV, Geneon, etc--and they'd likely be able to quickly and more efficiently release it with well-done translations and voiced by talented English voice actors. Although I do notice it's not just Square. Why the hell would the GBA Mega Man Anniversary Collection need to be delayed? Translation would take less than a week since the carts have no lockout and English translations already exist for those games, but it's been pushed back to November. Lame. Oh, and we get Chain of Memories before the Japanese. Yay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2004 And remember boys and girls: Kamui is an otaku. Don't mention him... God, him and his all superior attitude made me fearful of saying "watashi no otaku." ...yeah, to anyone who can translate that sentence, I'm fully aware that the syntax and how it is meant is wrong. Yeah, I think I may have stepped over the line there, but I had meant Kamui was one of those extreme types that believes Japan is paradise on Earth, and that the West sucks, etc. And for the record, I have a wallpaper of Amelia Seiroon on my desktop. "Where's the justice in that?!" "Oh it's around here somewhere." Priceless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2004 Interesting side conversation about Japanese society, off-topic or not. I am awaiting FFAC with bated breath, as I am liking the story arc... and as for the game, we shall see. I'm nowhere as geeked about that, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Reservoir_Kitty Report post Posted September 19, 2004 Fantastic! Vincent was one of my favorites from FF7. They sure are milking a dead cow, aren't they? Not that I mind, 7 is my favorite FF game, but it seems almost too little too late. But, I'm hooked. Advent Children will own all kinds of ass, and so will this game. This pleases me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2004 It's not too little too late actually. FFVII still to this day gets talked about. Hell, it's the only game to have GOD only knows how many fan fics and debates about the game to this very day (we just had a huge ass discussion on the ending of FFVII). They waited this long so as it doesn't seem like overkill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Reservoir_Kitty Report post Posted September 19, 2004 I am happy with the long delay that the game will be on PS2 so we won't have Lego-esque characters (although it was really super cute). I'll play it, of course, and this is one game Squeenix is churning out that I don't think I'll have to hesitate to buy (like I should've done with FFX-2). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites