natey2k4 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2004 Do you guys/girls think this is looking to be a good PPV. The matches should be ALL half decent..and most definately most feuds have been built up well, for a WWE PPV. Rest In Peace Match WWE Championship John 'Bradshaw' Layfield v. The Undertaker WWE Tag Team Champions Rey Mysterio & Rob Van Dam v. Kenzo Suzuki & Rene Dupree WWE United States Championship John Cena v. Booker T Paul London v. Billy Kidman Eddie Guerrero v. Luther Regins Kurt Angle v. The Big Show I may be forgotting one, so correct me if I did. Nunzio vs Spike Dudley looks probable for the CW Championship. Or The Dudleyz vs FBI. Possibly a Heidenreich squash against S2H or something as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Real F'n Show Report post Posted September 28, 2004 London/Kidman, Eddie/Luther, and Big Show/Angle could all be decent matches, but I still won't order. I haven't ordered a Smackdown PPV since Vengeance 2003, and don't plan to start now, just because Paul London is wrestling. I'll just download his match on Limewire... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted September 28, 2004 I can't believe that someone actually thinks that card's worth $35. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2004 I'm going there, and I'll probably have a good time regardless. It does look like the best SD PPV since Wrestlemania, and I'm looking forward to it, particuarly Angle-Show and London-Kidman. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be a stand-out show glancing at the card, but it looks like it has the potential to be much better than Judgment Day or GAB. BTW, JBL vs. Taker is actually a Last Ride match. I'm guessing there will be a Dudleys vs. Haas & Rico added, and either a Spike title defense or Heidenreich squash, as well. Nunzio seems like the right guy for the Spike match, because there is no one else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lactose Report post Posted September 28, 2004 thank goodness the UK get most wwe ppv's for free :< although i do not know how long this deal will last :\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2004 I didnt say I was going to be a great PPV... I said its been built up well for a WWE PPV. The Storylines.. ALL THE MATCHES have had more than one week back story so far. Even the CW match, not for the CW title has a backstory.. and its decent so far. I'm diggin the Kidman/London storyline.. Really.. I just think it's been built up well enough for me to care regardless how good the matches turn out to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 I didn't know if this deserved a new thread (it would if it was announced the same day as October Jukebox matches, like Unforgiven's extras were) so I'll just post this here. These are the WWE.com Webcast Bonus Matches for No Mercy: In Your House, 10.22.95, Razor Ramon defeats Dean Douglas for Intercontinental Title Dean Douglas, aka Shane Douglas, possesses one of the oddest Intercontinental Championship reigns in WWE history. Earlier this night, Douglas was awarded the title, then forced to defend it against Razor Ramon. See how the new champion fared against the Bad Guy. In Your House, 10.20.96, Steve Austin defeats Hunter Hearst Helmsley Just hours before capturing the Intercontinental Championship for the first time, Hunter Hearst Helmsley, aka Triple H, battled Stone Cold Steve Austin on pay-per-view. The two Superstars are known for their classic rivalry. Watch this match and see the beginnings of greatness. Entire 1989 WCW Halloween Havoc The 1989 WCW Halloween Havoc pay-per-view features some of the biggest names in sports-entertainment history, including Bruno Sammartino, the Road Warriors, Brian Pillman and the Freebirds. In the main event, Sting teamed up with the “Nature Boy” Ric Flair to take on Terry Funk and the Great Muta in a Thunderdome Cage Match. Be sure to check out this great pay-per-view event in its entirety. WCW Halloween Havoc, 10.27.91, Chamber of Horrors Match WCW was known for some of the most outrageous matches ever assembled. In this 1991 Halloween Havoc classic, a Chamber of Horrors Match featured some of the biggest names at the time, including El Gigante, who eventually defected to WWE to battle Undertaker, Sting, Cactus Jack and Abdullah the Butcher. Abdullah may be a stranger to some WWE fans, however, he is a classic extremist that has to be seen to be believed. WCW Halloween Havoc, 10.26.97, Rey Mysterio def. Eddie Guerrero Two of SmackDown’s most exciting Superstars face off in a thrilling Mask vs. Title Match. Mysterio had his coveted mask on the line, while Guerrero put up his Cruiserweight Championship. Watch the match to see which Superstar walked away with all the goods. No Mercy, 10.20.02, Brock Lesnar defeats Undertaker in Hell in a Cell The words Hell in a Cell can strike fear into most any competitor. Its unforgiving steel can shorten careers in an instant. Brock Lesnar and Undertaker, however, show no fear in this WWE Championship instant classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted September 29, 2004 WCW Halloween Havoc, 10.27.91, Chamber of Horrors Match WCW was known for some of the most outrageous matches ever assembled. In this 1991 Halloween Havoc classic, a Chamber of Horrors Match featured some of the biggest names at the time, including El Gigante, who eventually defected to WWE to battle Undertaker, Sting, Cactus Jack and Abdullah the Butcher. Abdullah may be a stranger to some WWE fans, however, he is a classic extremist that has to be seen to be believed. WOW. I can't believe they're showing this piece of Wrestlecrap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 thank goodness the UK get most wwe ppv's for free :< although i do not know how long this deal will last :\ Survivor Series is going to be the last WWE PPV we get for free in the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NiTR0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 I haven't been watching SmackDown!, so the build isn't important to me. What is is the matches that the WWE are offering and it doesn't look too good. All the matches have potential to be decent, not good. MOTN if given the right amount of time will most likely be London/Kidman, but I wouldn't be surprised if Eddie pulls one out of Luther. Hey, he pulled a good match out of JBL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NiTR0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 thank goodness the UK get most wwe ppv's for free :< although i do not know how long this deal will last :\ Survivor Series is going to be the last WWE PPV we get for free in the UK. What, so we have to pay for PPV's from now on, or are u just saying the rest of the year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lactose Report post Posted October 1, 2004 thank goodness the UK get most wwe ppv's for free :< although i do not know how long this deal will last :\ Survivor Series is going to be the last WWE PPV we get for free in the UK. What, so we have to pay for PPV's from now on, or are u just saying the rest of the year? i read somewhere (twc forums i think) that sky lost it's deal with wwe due to something that happened with channel 4 a couple of years back... hence why a few ppv's were shown on setanta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Hopefully, they'll give Spike vs. Nunzio the time it needs to be a good match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 thank goodness the UK get most wwe ppv's for free :< although i do not know how long this deal will last :\ Survivor Series is going to be the last WWE PPV we get for free in the UK. What, so we have to pay for PPV's from now on, or are u just saying the rest of the year? I mean we have to pay for all PPV's from now on. The ones not shown on Sentena Sports will be shown on Sky Box Office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 First PPV I'm skipping in over 3 years. Save my money for Taboo Tuesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest M. Harry Smilac Report post Posted October 1, 2004 If I had to choose between No Mercy and Taboo Tuesday i'd definately take No Mercy. Not one match on No Mercy's card looks to be as crappy as Bischoff Vs. Eugene.I like Bisch but he doesn't belong in a ring wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'll probably go see No Mercy at the local sports bar. Unfortunately, I'll have to skip Taboo Tuesday because I have classes and can't skip work. Oh well, it saves from seeing Benoit job to HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 thank goodness the UK get most wwe ppv's for free :< although i do not know how long this deal will last :\ Survivor Series is going to be the last WWE PPV we get for free in the UK. What, so we have to pay for PPV's from now on, or are u just saying the rest of the year? i read somewhere (twc forums i think) that sky lost it's deal with wwe due to something that happened with channel 4 a couple of years back... hence why a few ppv's were shown on setanta. It was Mae Youngs breasts at RR 2000, I believe. *shudders* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 thank goodness the UK get most wwe ppv's for free :< although i do not know how long this deal will last :\ Survivor Series is going to be the last WWE PPV we get for free in the UK. What, so we have to pay for PPV's from now on, or are u just saying the rest of the year? i read somewhere (twc forums i think) that sky lost it's deal with wwe due to something that happened with channel 4 a couple of years back... hence why a few ppv's were shown on setanta. It was Mae Youngs breasts at RR 2000, I believe. *shudders* That and the violent match between Triple H and Cactus Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Not sure how build up that involved a man being shot with a tranqulizer dart could be described as "good" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 WCW Halloween Havoc, 10.27.91, Chamber of Horrors Match WCW was known for some of the most outrageous matches ever assembled. In this 1991 Halloween Havoc classic, a Chamber of Horrors Match featured some of the biggest names at the time, including El Gigante, who eventually defected to WWE to battle Undertaker, Sting, Cactus Jack and Abdullah the Butcher. Abdullah may be a stranger to some WWE fans, however, he is a classic extremist that has to be seen to be believed. You Know, I have nothing but respect for Abby, but why do they feel the need to reminding us of this dent in the world of wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I like this build. In Your House, 10.22.95, Razor Ramon defeats Dean Douglas for Intercontinental Title Dean Douglas, aka Shane Douglas, possesses one of the oddest Intercontinental Championship reigns in WWE history. Earlier this night, Douglas was awarded the title, then forced to defend it against Razor Ramon. See how the new champion fared against the Bad Guy. Um, he lost? That'd be like selling how the upstart NFC champion Panthers did on the Patriots' Super Bowl DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 --NO MERCY PREVIEW *Undertaker vs. JBL - Coming off a stinker at SummerSlam, they are going at it in a Last Ride match, loser going out in a hearse for the WWE title. These matches guarantee tons of interference, and usually aren't good, so they've got their work cut out for them. The original plan was for Heidenreich to screw Undertaker (and not the way he supposedly screwed Michael Cole) leading to that program, but they've sure toned down that direction of late. *Kurt Angle vs. Big Show - Teddy Long has banned Mark Jindrak and Luther Reigns from ringside. Can Angle carry Show to a *** match? He's done it before. *Eddie Guerrero vs. Luther Reigns - Same game, can Guerrero carry Reigns to a *** match. I don't think anyone has done that before. I still cant' get over that we saw Guerrero vs Angle in a 2/3 fall match on Smackdown TV and are supposed to pay $34.95 for what on paper are subpar matches for both *John Cena vs. Booker T in match No. 5 in the best of five series for the U.S. title - Conventional wisdom is since Cena is in Australia and just flying in for this show, that he'll lose, since Booker will be around. That doesn't mean it'll happen that way. Either way, the U.S. title means nothing (really the only title that means anything right now is the Raw title). Overall, this series has to be labeled a disappointment *Rene Dupree & Kenzo Suzuki vs. Rob Van Dam & Rey Mysterio for the tag titles - This match is a sleeper because, well, it could put you to sleep, or, possibly be good. Mysterio & Van Dam, at least the last plan was, are supposed to be a regular team from this point forward. *Spike Dudley vs. Nunzio for the cruiserweight title - This match hasn't been announced, but was confirmed to us Thursday. Spike should win. TV match was fine. Of course, the Meadowlands crowd may be indifferent to it. *Billy Kidman vs. Paul London - On paper, this should be the best match, but with because they've clearly established both men as people you aren't supposed to care about, it should have the worst reactions. Since Kidman just turned, he should win, but it really doesn't matter because neither of these guys is going anywhere. If you look up blah PPV in the dictionary, well, this could be the example. I guess the only question is if it'll perform better than the two Guerrero vs. JBL main events. If the crowd is a wrestling crowd and not a star crowd, it's very possible the main event could be the worst match. But the main will probably get the latitude for the blood and table breakings, and virtually guaranteed to have the ref bumps and outside interference spots. We'll get a good look at how good Mysterio, Guerrero and Angle are when it comes to carrying. Meltzer's preview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted October 2, 2004 I can't believe that someone actually thinks that card's worth $35. I've NEVER seen any wrestling, ever, that is worth $35. I've been watching for upwards of fifteen years. I've seen promotions from all over the world. I've seen comp. tapes with matchlists involving multiple matches that are arguably some of the greatest matches of all-time. STILL not worth $35. So, what's your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 God, even though I'm not a big JBL fan, I actually hope he retains the title because having UT as champion is 10 times worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted October 2, 2004 God, even though I'm not a big JBL fan, I actually hope he retains the title because having UT as champion is 10 times worse. I actually really enjoyed The Undertaker's last run with the title. Of course, he was on Raw back then (he didn't jump from show to show as much as anticipated, despite that the champion was supposed too). He also hadn't brought the "deadman" gimmick out of the woodwork back then either. I actually think that 'Taker is a better worker NOW than when he was just smashing people and Tombstoning jobbers. Granted he doesn't fly like he used too, but that was always more impressive because of his size than because of the actual move. I prefer when he works over an arm or slaps on submission moves. It makes it seem like he has more direction in his matches. The "old school" turnbuckle move seems a lot more effective when The Undertaker is slapping on armbars and shit. Granted, I agree that he doesn't really NEED to the WWE title again. It's not like 'Taker needs the belt to garner heat or anything. I will point out however, that JBL isn't the best champion that I've ever seen before either. So, if 'Taker was to win the world title again, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 You might be right, Coffey. It's the most likely scenario at this point. Have UT win, feud w/Heidenreich or somebody else at Survivor Series and then hold the belt until Wrestlemania. Would this mean that Angle wins the Rumble? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 Not sure how build up that involved a man being shot with a tranqulizer dart could be described as "good" So...you get shot with a tranquilizer dart, I take it you aren't gonna want to get back at the man who shot you? Odd. Because that's exactly the case here...of course Show's gonna want to get Angle back for that, not to mention he also was 'embarassed' which Show mentioned in his promo is the main reason he can't wait for this match now and so on. Not really bad build up, especially when you take into account that now most matches are determined by so and so winning a battle royal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 Jesus man, do you try to justify EVERYTHING? No matter what they (WWE) do, it's good to you. You just go against the grain, and I'm willing to bet you do it on purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tekcop 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 --NO MERCY PREVIEW *Undertaker vs. JBL - Coming off a stinker at SummerSlam, they are going at it in a Last Ride match, loser going out in a hearse for the WWE title. These matches guarantee tons of interference, and usually aren't good, so they've got their work cut out for them. The original plan was for Heidenreich to screw Undertaker (and not the way he supposedly screwed Michael Cole) leading to that program, but they've sure toned down that direction of late. *Kurt Angle vs. Big Show - Teddy Long has banned Mark Jindrak and Luther Reigns from ringside. Can Angle carry Show to a *** match? He's done it before. *Eddie Guerrero vs. Luther Reigns - Same game, can Guerrero carry Reigns to a *** match. I don't think anyone has done that before. I still cant' get over that we saw Guerrero vs Angle in a 2/3 fall match on Smackdown TV and are supposed to pay $34.95 for what on paper are subpar matches for both *John Cena vs. Booker T in match No. 5 in the best of five series for the U.S. title - Conventional wisdom is since Cena is in Australia and just flying in for this show, that he'll lose, since Booker will be around. That doesn't mean it'll happen that way. Either way, the U.S. title means nothing (really the only title that means anything right now is the Raw title). Overall, this series has to be labeled a disappointment *Rene Dupree & Kenzo Suzuki vs. Rob Van Dam & Rey Mysterio for the tag titles - This match is a sleeper because, well, it could put you to sleep, or, possibly be good. Mysterio & Van Dam, at least the last plan was, are supposed to be a regular team from this point forward. *Spike Dudley vs. Nunzio for the cruiserweight title - This match hasn't been announced, but was confirmed to us Thursday. Spike should win. TV match was fine. Of course, the Meadowlands crowd may be indifferent to it. *Billy Kidman vs. Paul London - On paper, this should be the best match, but with because they've clearly established both men as people you aren't supposed to care about, it should have the worst reactions. Since Kidman just turned, he should win, but it really doesn't matter because neither of these guys is going anywhere. If you look up blah PPV in the dictionary, well, this could be the example. I guess the only question is if it'll perform better than the two Guerrero vs. JBL main events. If the crowd is a wrestling crowd and not a star crowd, it's very possible the main event could be the worst match. But the main will probably get the latitude for the blood and table breakings, and virtually guaranteed to have the ref bumps and outside interference spots. We'll get a good look at how good Mysterio, Guerrero and Angle are when it comes to carrying. Meltzer's preview. Is it ok to think Meltzer's a complete moron with really bad taste in wrestling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites