Miraculous matches

[Guest jm29195]

I've just finished watching wwf Grudes Gripes and Grunts from around 93, and have just seen the most amazing Tatanka match, his opponent? Ric Flair. I know Flair has a reputation for having good matches with crap workers but this was just remarkable, I've never seen a singles Tatanka match break * and imo this match was at least ***

Can anyone else think of examples of a superior worker putting out a huge effort to carry a mediocre worker to a brilliant match?

[Guest Staravenger]

Bret Hart. Diesel. Survivor Series 1995.

[Australian Pride 0]

Shawn Michaels vs Sid - Survivor Series 1996

[Guest JMA]

"Macho King" Randy Savage vs. The Ultimate Warrior, WrestleMania VII.

 

Savage unquestionably carried Warrior to the BEST match of his career. Only a few wrestlers could even have a decent bout with Warrior.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Shawn Michaels vs Sid - Survivor Series 1996

Read my mind.

 

You're an Aussie too.

 

See also HBK vs Diesel from IYH '96. Shawn made Nash look like twenty million dollars.

 

UYI

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

Bret/Bulldog, Slam 1992. Bulldog wasn't a bad worker but he was so blown up that Bret wrestled himself for the first half of the match.

 

Still, the best example is Savage/Warrior. To my knowledge only two guys knew how to work a good match with Warrrior(not counting Hogan), Savage and Rude. And Savage's matches with UW were much better than Rude's.

[Special K 0]

All the above are good examples, here's some that may be not as remembered

 

Kawada vs Albright AJPW(Perhaps the ultimate carry job)

 

Any one of the enjoyable Angle v Kane matches.

 

Benoit Malenko versus Taz Sabu (good wrestlers with bad wrestlers who have high effort and good spots often makes for really fun matches. See also Benoit versus Snow ECW)

 

Chono vs Rude NJPW(Rude DID try hard, and I love Rude)

 

In terms of straight miracles, Stephanie v Trish.

 

In terms of just busting ass (but not getting a great match out of someone) Jericho v Hogan on RAW. He was bouncing off him like a damn pinball for a good deal of time, trying his damndest to make an exciting match.

[Guest dr. deaf]

I remember the hogan/jericho match, wasn't it smackdown though? That was the one that had people jumping back to hogan's side saying look at the old man try to work, and to give him credit in that one match hogan did give it the old college try.

[Zack Malibu 0]

What about the shockingly enjoyable Albert/Kane match from '01?

[Guest jm29195]

What about the shockingly enjoyable Albert/Kane match from '01?

 

 

Yeah but who carried who?

 

 

I would like to put forward the Benoit/A Train match from No Mercy last year, easilly Train's best match, although it wasn't all Benoit, as Train was trying hard awell!

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HHH vs Kane from Raw.

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In terms of straight miracles, Stephanie v Trish.

That would be my pick.

 

I fully expected that match to be a total disaster but it was actually entertaining.

[Zack Malibu 0]

What about the shockingly enjoyable Albert/Kane match from '01?

 

 

Yeah but who carried who?

I'd be inclined to say Kane was carrying Albert, but then again I've never found Alberty completely offensive workrate wise. It's just his personality/character that irks me.

[Guest Staravenger]

Great, now I need to track down someone with the Hogan/Jericho match. I thought I taped it back then, but I can't find it. Probably Hogans best match from 2002 (not counting WM X-8). Smackdown Magazine (the 5th Yr. Anniversary) calls it one of the 10 most memorable matches in SD History.

 

Edit: Didn't Kane pull off a HURRICANRANA against Albert? Now THAT has to be a miracle.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Benoit Malenko versus Taz Sabu (good wrestlers with bad wrestlers who have high effort and good spots often makes for really fun matches. See also Benoit versus Snow ECW)

I really hope you're not saying Snow's a bad wrestler because he isn't. He's very capable. See also his handheld match with Benoit.

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Shane vs Test - Lover Her Or Leave Her

Shane vs X-Pac - WM 15

Bossman v Barbarian - Royal Rumble 91

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"Macho King" Randy Savage vs. The Ultimate Warrior, WrestleMania V.

 

Savage unquestionably carried Warrior to the BEST match of his career. Only a few wrestlers could even have a decent bout with Warrior.

Wrestlemania VII.

[Guest JMA]

"Macho King" Randy Savage vs. The Ultimate Warrior, WrestleMania V.

 

Savage unquestionably carried Warrior to the BEST match of his career. Only a few wrestlers could even have a decent bout with Warrior.

Wrestlemania VII.

Whoops. Guess I forgot to put the two I's at the end of it.

 

It's fixed now. Thanks for correcting my mistake.

[Guest Staravenger]

I'm sure everyone knew which you meant, since it IS Wrestlemania.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Responding to an earlier post and having re-watched Chris Benoit Vs. Al Snow from Benoit's DVD.

 

It's not a good match. It's mediocre with "forced" unbelievable "near falls" and too much Benoit offense. Shouldn't be anywhere near the DVD, much less ON it.

[JoeDirt 0]

I've just finished watching wwf Grudes Gripes and Grunts from around 93, and have just seen the most amazing Tatanka match, his opponent? Ric Flair. I know Flair has a reputation for having good matches with crap workers but this was just remarkable, I've never seen a singles Tatanka match break * and imo this match was at least ***

Can anyone else think of examples of a superior worker putting out a huge effort to carry a mediocre worker to a brilliant match?

I actually have always liked the HBK/Tatanka WM9 match a lot, too. Haven't seen Tatanka/Flair, though.

 

HBK/Sid from Survivor Series 1996 is a great example of what you're talking about, though.

[Guest Ray]

Bret Hart vs Diesel, Survivor Series 1995 and King of the Ring 1994.

 

Bret vs Yokozuna from Wrestlemania 10 (which I think is very underrated).

[JoeDirt 0]

Bret Hart vs Diesel, Survivor Series 1995 and King of the Ring 1994.

I actually liked the Bret/Diesel Rumble 1995 match a LOT, about as much as the Survivor Series one.

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Orton / Edge from Vengence this year, I expected it to suck, and it winded up being the best match next to Benoit / HHH.

 

Benoit / Albert, I mean A-Train from No Mercy last year was a big surprise also.

 

And of course, everybody's favorite shocker: Undertaker / Big Show from No Way Out 2003.

[Guest jm29195]

What about Raven carrying Gordy to a very good match at ECW Hardcore Heaven 96?

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Responding to an earlier post and having re-watched Chris Benoit Vs. Al Snow from Benoit's DVD.

 

It's not a good match. It's mediocre with "forced" unbelievable "near falls" and too much Benoit offense. Shouldn't be anywhere near the DVD, much less ON it.

Just watched this and I agree. It is basically a 15 minute squash for Benoit. Snow gets nothing in the match except a few impressive kicks, and that it. It's not a bad match or anything, but I've seen people give this match ****, and it isn't even close to that.

[natey2k4 0]

Tatanka vs Flair

Tatanka vs Martel

Tatanka vs Michaels

and the 6 man from Summerslam 1993 (Headshrinkers & Bam Bam vs Tatanka and The Gunns)

 

are the only matches of his I remember being over **.

 

Martel vs Tatanka was about ** exactly.. Martel worked his ass off with only about 7 minutes I believe it was.

 

Micheals vs Tatanka was about **1/2-***... good match .

 

Flair vs Tatanka(grundges, gripes and grunts which I own) was a great match for tatanka. ***1/4

 

The 6 man was supringlying good, *** or so.

 

 

 

Grundges Gripes and Grunts was actually a good put together tape.

Bret/Savage vs Michaels/Flair was ****1/2-***** range.

plus a few other enjoyable matches.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Responding to an earlier post and having re-watched Chris Benoit Vs. Al Snow from Benoit's DVD.

 

It's not a good match.  It's mediocre with "forced" unbelievable "near falls" and too much Benoit offense.  Shouldn't be anywhere near the DVD, much less ON it.

Just watched this and I agree. It is basically a 15 minute squash for Benoit. Snow gets nothing in the match except a few impressive kicks, and that it. It's not a bad match or anything, but I've seen people give this match ****, and it isn't even close to that.

The idea is that you're supposed to feel sympthany for Snow because of the long and intense heel control segment so that when he makes his comeback it means more than what we usually see with other matches. It's one of the better face beatdowns I can think of that also served to put over Benoit as a crippler who could not be stopped at the time. It deserves to be on the DVD.

[Coffin Surfer 0]

Responding to an earlier post and having re-watched Chris Benoit Vs. Al Snow from Benoit's DVD.

 

It's not a good match. It's mediocre with "forced" unbelievable "near falls" and too much Benoit offense. Shouldn't be anywhere near the DVD, much less ON it. 

 

It's a good match, not mediocre. It's actually better than Eddy/Malenko Hostile City Showdown.

 

It's not a back and forth match with great nearfalls, that's not what it's suppose to be. It's a roleplaying match with Beniot wrestling somebody who is very much far below him. Considering Snow is just a jobber at this point, Beniot made him look very good by letting him survive most of his high end stuff.

 

Truth be told, Beniot should have probably used more low end offense like say Kawada would do with Akiyama but the match was his ECW debut and he had to show off his moveset.

 

Beniot actually lets Snow look like the better chain wrestler in the opening sequence and gives him a good run of offense in the finish. Considering this is a monster making his debut against a no name jobber the match is surprisingly competitive and alot better than it had any right to be. Not a miracle match, since we all know that Beniot is a capable carrier while Snow actually brings alot to the table.

 

Just watched this and I agree. It is basically a 15 minute squash for Benoit. Snow gets nothing in the match except a few impressive kicks, and that it. It's not a bad match or anything, but I've seen people give this match ****, and it isn't even close to that.

 

Wrong. Snow gets a nice German Suplex, a Backbody Drop, The Snowplow Suplex, and a modified Fisherman Suplex. That's more than a few kicks bud. I would agree that it's not ****...more like ***-***1/4.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The Snow match wasn't Benoit's debut in ECW. He'd wrestled for them a fair few times in 1994.

 

And I actually got the Benoit DVD myself a few weeks ago, and watched the match in question. It is in no way a squash, and Snow gets in the amount of offense he should have, given their respective positions on the totem pole at the time. I'd give it ***1/4-***1/2 myself.