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Even though this was effectively a tie, the Boston Globe has already written up an article about how this was a victory, as it was visible this afternoon.

 

This made for a HELL of a lot of time-machine jokes on the blogs.

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I thought Bush came of confused in my opinon... seemed flustered at first and then got going.

 

I thought Kerry not saying what his MASTER PLAN~! was hurt.

 

I'd call it even though.

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CNN seems to be saying that nobody won.

I'd agree that no one won, but Kerry had a better than expected showing.

To be honest, I wouldn't have been able to guess how Kerry would do at all. He did alright, nothing jumped out at me.

Very true. No one thought that Kerry would do well, let alone Bush flopping and coming across being agitated the whole time.

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"Kerry showed his intellectual superiority over John Bush....It's appalling that he's our president."

 

"Seemed weak and confused at Kerry's complex ideas..."

Whoa John Bush was in the debate?

 

Wonder if Scott Ian or Charlie Benante know anything about it :lol:

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ABC News is saying pretty much across the board that Kerry won.

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Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points,"

 

And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won."

 

Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger.

Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane.

 

And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue.

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Unfortunately for Kerry, I do think that there is material for commercials that attack Kerry far moreso than there is material to attack Bush with.

-=Mike

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"You can't send mexed... Mixed messages"

 

And of course, the crowd please:

 

"*longish pause* Unnhhh... Well let me tell you about... Before I answer that.... I wanna start start with..."

 

I hope you guys are ready to be good losers.

OK Vietnam...............

 

This is like the Cowboys trying to claim some sort of victory cause they only lost to the Patriots 12-0 last year.

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Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points,"

 

And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won."

 

Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger.

Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane.

 

And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue.

Nope. I just gave you a quote of a political analyst who said "Kerry won."

 

And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content.

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Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points,"

 

And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won."

 

Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger.

Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane.

 

And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue.

Nope. I just gave you a quote of a political analyst who said "Kerry won."

 

And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content.

Then again, Kerry barely looked at the camera and has a freakish grin. Visually, it's a draw.

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"You can't send mexed... Mixed messages"

 

And of course, the crowd please:

 

"*longish pause* Unnhhh... Well let me tell you about... Before I answer that.... I wanna start start with..."

 

I hope you guys are ready to be good losers.

OK Vietnam...............

 

This is like the Cowboys trying to claim some sort of victory cause they only lost to the Patriots 12-0 last year.

So, Kerry lost because he mentioned Vietnam a couple times?

 

How about Bush lost because he paused for about ten seconds before every answer and stuttered like a retard at least twice in every answer.

 

Bush lost. Big time.

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And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content.

Unfortunately even if the Bush=Nixon thing had any water, Kerry didn't quite bring the Kennedy.

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Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points,"

 

And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won."

 

Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger.

Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane.

 

And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue.

Nope. I just gave you a quote of a political analyst who said "Kerry won."

 

And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content.

Then again, Kerry barely looked at the camera and has a freakish grin. Visually, it's a draw.

But, at least he wasn't getting pissy, and stumbling all over himself every time Bush said something like Bush was with Kerry.

 

Bush wuz schooled.

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How about Bush lost because he paused for about ten seconds before every answer and stuttered like a retard at least twice in every answer.

 

Bush lost. Big time.

Oddly enough, no one cares. He's always been a decent at best public speaker. Kerry didn't bring anything tonight. It's a pretty big draw.

 

But hey, you only needed one thread to prove how much of an idiot you are, so I shouldn't expect too much from yourself...

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Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout.

-=Mike

Like you're fair and balanced.

 

45 % say Kerry won 36% say Bush won according to ABC.

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The issues was mostly restating what they've said a thousand times each. I found the N. Korea exchange interesting. Simply based on poise and stuff, I give the debate to Kerry, but not a strong victory. I'm biased though, so take that as you will.

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I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie.

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Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout.

        -=Mike

Like you're fair and balanced.

 

45 % say Kerry won 36% say Bush won according to ABC.

This me utterly not giving a shit.

-=Mike

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