Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Former Congressman Matthew Perry (R-FL) said that Kerry won on MSNBC. Maybe Chris Matthews intimidated him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Even though this was effectively a tie, the Boston Globe has already written up an article about how this was a victory, as it was visible this afternoon. This made for a HELL of a lot of time-machine jokes on the blogs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I thought Bush came of confused in my opinon... seemed flustered at first and then got going. I thought Kerry not saying what his MASTER PLAN~! was hurt. I'd call it even though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 CNN seems to be saying that nobody won. I'd agree that no one won, but Kerry had a better than expected showing. To be honest, I wouldn't have been able to guess how Kerry would do at all. He did alright, nothing jumped out at me. Very true. No one thought that Kerry would do well, let alone Bush flopping and coming across being agitated the whole time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 1, 2004 "Kerry showed his intellectual superiority over John Bush....It's appalling that he's our president." "Seemed weak and confused at Kerry's complex ideas..." Whoa John Bush was in the debate? Wonder if Scott Ian or Charlie Benante know anything about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 "You can't send mexed... Mixed messages" And of course, the crowd please: "*longish pause* Unnhhh... Well let me tell you about... Before I answer that.... I wanna start start with..." I hope you guys are ready to be good losers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 "We need to pull out of Iraq immediately..." WHEN DID KERRY SAY THAT??! Lots of people picked up that Bush looked ticked though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 ABC News is saying pretty much across the board that Kerry won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points," And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won." Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger. Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane. And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Unfortunately for Kerry, I do think that there is material for commercials that attack Kerry far moreso than there is material to attack Bush with. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 And hey, it's Tony Franks, the guy Kerry kept mentioning! He kinda forgot that he supports W... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 1, 2004 "You can't send mexed... Mixed messages" And of course, the crowd please: "*longish pause* Unnhhh... Well let me tell you about... Before I answer that.... I wanna start start with..." I hope you guys are ready to be good losers. OK Vietnam............... This is like the Cowboys trying to claim some sort of victory cause they only lost to the Patriots 12-0 last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Hey, CBS reported that Bush ate a baby during the debate. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points," And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won." Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger. Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane. And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue. Nope. I just gave you a quote of a political analyst who said "Kerry won." And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Like I said before, that deabte was like the entire Spurs-Nets NBA Finals last year, bowling shoe ugly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points," And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won." Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger. Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane. And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue. Nope. I just gave you a quote of a political analyst who said "Kerry won." And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content. Then again, Kerry barely looked at the camera and has a freakish grin. Visually, it's a draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 "You can't send mexed... Mixed messages" And of course, the crowd please: "*longish pause* Unnhhh... Well let me tell you about... Before I answer that.... I wanna start start with..." I hope you guys are ready to be good losers. OK Vietnam............... This is like the Cowboys trying to claim some sort of victory cause they only lost to the Patriots 12-0 last year. So, Kerry lost because he mentioned Vietnam a couple times? How about Bush lost because he paused for about ten seconds before every answer and stuttered like a retard at least twice in every answer. Bush lost. Big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 1, 2004 And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content. Unfortunately even if the Bush=Nixon thing had any water, Kerry didn't quite bring the Kennedy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Bush needs to get his shit together for the next debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points," And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won." Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger. Actually, both sides are saying it's a draw. If you believe there was a clear victor, you're just insane. And, yeah, Kerry tends to Zinger himself. That's what happens when you take both sides of an issue. Nope. I just gave you a quote of a political analyst who said "Kerry won." And just like Nixon did in '60... Bush sounded far worse even when he was bringing the content. Then again, Kerry barely looked at the camera and has a freakish grin. Visually, it's a draw. But, at least he wasn't getting pissy, and stumbling all over himself every time Bush said something like Bush was with Kerry. Bush wuz schooled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Bush needs to get his shit together for the next debate. Didn't you just say that on the last page? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 God Guiliani looks EVIL~! with his eyebrows like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 How about Bush lost because he paused for about ten seconds before every answer and stuttered like a retard at least twice in every answer. Bush lost. Big time. Oddly enough, no one cares. He's always been a decent at best public speaker. Kerry didn't bring anything tonight. It's a pretty big draw. But hey, you only needed one thread to prove how much of an idiot you are, so I shouldn't expect too much from yourself... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Bush wuz schooled. Oh yeeh DUDER Kerry R00LD....................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout. -=Mike Like you're fair and balanced. 45 % say Kerry won 36% say Bush won according to ABC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 The issues was mostly restating what they've said a thousand times each. I found the N. Korea exchange interesting. Simply based on poise and stuff, I give the debate to Kerry, but not a strong victory. I'm biased though, so take that as you will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Don't grill Bush on slipping on the Saddam/Osama thing.. it's been awhile since he's said Osama in public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout. -=Mike Like you're fair and balanced. 45 % say Kerry won 36% say Bush won according to ABC. This me utterly not giving a shit. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites