bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 SNL Review- Ben Affleck/Nelly TOP 20 MOMENTS IN SNL HISTORY FROM September 2000-May 2004 Since my 100th review is coming in May- I decided to steal from TSN and ESPN and do my own top moments list. This isn’t the top 20 moments- it’s the top 20 ‘moments’. Remember- this only covers the last 4 seasons so don’t write me complaining about the lack of More Cowbell or anything like that. 20. Steve Martin, Britney Spears and Will Ferrell all cameo on Weekend Update SNL had been going through a slump going into this episode. Episodes hosted by such luminaries as race car driver Jeff Gordon and bongo player Matthew McConaughey had bombed. Fans were getting restless and the 94-95 comparisons had been whispered again. Desperate- SNL turned to its old friend Christopher Walken to help them turn the season around. It was only February- surely the season could be salvaged. The show had gotten off to a great start. An amazing Hardball began the show and there was a possibility that wammy bammy wowie zowie and Stiffly Stiferson would become national catchphrases. Even little used Dean Edwards got his chance to shine in a skit called African American archives. We even had a visit from Colonel Angus. But then it was time for Weekend Update. The episode had been funny- but the holy shit-o-metre factor was about to hit 10. THE MOMENT: Tina Fey has just told two unfunny jokes. One involving Billy Joel and Sigmund Freud and one involving modified corn. It’s been one of those Updates- the jokes really aren’t working tonight. Like the rest of the show- Update had also been slumping since the Jeff Gordon debacle. Right after the corn joke someone walks into the screen. It takes a minute for everyone to digest but then it hits. HOLY SHIT! That’s Steve Martin. While the audience shrieks and applauds, Tina and Jimmy play it off nonchalantly. They ask Steve what he’s doing- he responds: “I'm doing a cameo.” According to Steve he just woke out of bed and decided to cameo on the show. Steve declines to tell a joke- he’s just here to do a cameo. A cameo of normal cameo length that soon expires. Steve gives a thumbs up, Tina says his name and the crowd applauds. That’s good enough for everyone for holy shit moment of the year. But this one of those shows. One of those SNLs that gives you goosebumps, that makes you realise why you love this show and how it has the ability to make you truly appreciate the fact that it’s live TV. Fallon and Fey go back to telling some jokes. Tina tells a joke that ends with Jimmy eating a huge hamburger. Jimmy has fun with it and even throws Tina off track when she tries to introduce our next cameo. Jimmy calms down and Tina pulls herself together. A good friend of ours here at SNL left the show last year and none of us has seen him since. There has been an air of mystery of what he's been up to, here to talk about it, is our own, beloved Will Ferrell!! The crowd applauds loudly again and Will Ferrell makes his first appearance on SNL since he left. Will goes into a monologue about how he left Hollywood and decided to become an organic farmer and chill with his lady. The special lady’s name? Britney Spears. It couldn’t be- but it is. Britney Spears is now on Saturday Night Live. The crowd becomes unglued again. Britney and Will talk about their undying love for each other and Britney dismisses all the paparazzi rumours about her. The viewer just sits there in shock, mouth agape. Britney keeps telling Will not to cry and Tina ends the Update. It wasn’t the best Update at all- the jokes were weak and Maya Rudolph’s Christina Aguilera bit bombed. But in the span of 10 minutes- SNL’s greatest host, one of its greatest castmembers and Britney Spears had all made surprise appearances. The message was clear: Don’t count us out yet. #19 will be next week. Something cool coming soon- May will be my 100th review ever written. (Well it won’t be but work with me here) To celebrate I’m planning on doing this huge lookback at the past 5 years in May. But I realised a lot of my reviews from the first year are missing. So I got the tapes together and starting in December or January I will be doing retro reviews of those shows along with my reviews of regular shows. Cool eh? Just wait till you hear my thoughts on the Brosnan show. I got the tapes from Mark Jennings who is a totally awesome guy. You can email him for SNL tapes at- [email protected] Sports Report- Braves- I’d write up a postseason preview but we don’t really know who anyone is facing. Crazy! This has truly been a dream season and I’m so proud of everyone. I’m sad Maddux won’t get a chance at a ring- but this team just doesn’t seem to lose. I think they can beat the Astros or Dodgers. I just hope Cox knows what he’s thinking with a 3-man rotation. Saints- So far off to a good start. They had an incredible roller coaster game aganinst the Rams. Good to see our kicker did not let us down like he did last season. They have the Cards next so hopefully they can take advantage of that and start to build some momentum. Mailbag!!!!!!- [email protected] writes- oooo, looks like the little team that could (the lightning) made it further than mosts expectations. Granted a HOCKEY team for FLORIDA is a bit random. tomorow nights game will decide who goes on the face calgary. hmmm, and i specifically remember you making fun of the lightning a few mailbags ago. looks like your pride and joy team didnt make it. and mine did maybe next year Angie (yes, im thoroughly enjoying this wholre "gloating" thing I was wrong. The Lightning do not suck. Even though I must say- any team that celebrates with Brian Knobbs really needs a better fanbase. But congrats Lightning fans. You deserved it. Chad Ruffner writes- Hi Bob, Raw this past Monday Night came off as an uninspired, lackluster effort. It started out pretty good with The Benoit/Edge vs La Resistance Tag Title Match, but It just plummeted from that point on, concluding with The Eugene vs Kane Match. I realize that Eugene Is new and that they probably have big plans for his character, but the amount of offense he was allowed against Kane was ridiculous. Kane should be treated as an unstoppable Monster heading Into his World Hvt. Title Match against Benoit at Bad Blood. The way he was booked Monday made him look weak, IMO. Oh well, can't win them all. Hopefully they can get back on track with next's week's show. What did you think? Chad I don’t really remember that RAW too much. Benoit/Edge v. La Res was a pretty freaking awesome match though. I remember being on the phone for most of it and just hearing the crowd heat and it was really cool. I don’t really remember anything else though. I can’t believe La Res still have the belts. Chad Ruffner writes- Hi Bob, Raw started out really well with The HHH/HBK/Kane opening segment. Unfortunately It was all downhill from that point on. There were way too many recaps and other useless segments that came across as nothing more than filler.(WTF was up with that Joe Schmoe 2 preview?!?) It was almost If Creative couldn't be bothered to put together a 2 hour show, so they had to stretch out as much as possible. The worst Post-PPV Raw I've seen In a while, If not ever. Horrid. What Did you Think? Chad That was the RAW with the awesome Benoit/Edge/Jericho v. Evolution 6-man tag that went like 30 minutes and just kept going and going. Don’t knock that RAW. And it had HBK getting beaten with a chair and coughing up blood. Who doesn’t love that. This was a really good RAW if I recall. Chad Ruffner (again) writes- Hi Bob, Raw this past Monday looked a lot better on paper then It came across on T.V.,IMO. I actually thought last week's Pre-PPV Show was a lot better than this week's program. Not that It was all horrible. The Heel Diva's "Bridal Shower" for Kane was laugh out loud funny. I also liked that Evolution turned on Randy Orton at the end of the program rather then playing It out (predictably) for months on end. Other than those things, though, that was It. Not a Blow away Post Major PPV Raw for me. Although I shouldn't be surprised anymore, given what has been going on In this Company The last 3 1/2 Years. Oh Well. A little less than a month until The start of Monday Night Football! What Did You Think? Chad That RAW had the awesome Benoit v. Orton rematch- even though making the customer pay $35 for the match and then airing the rematch the next night is kind of scummy. Even though Orton’s face run has been horrible- the turn and the beatdown was just awesome TV. I got goosebumps when HHH did the thumbs down and Orton mouthed the ‘mf’ word. It’s a shame they’ve screwed everything up so badly. Wanna be in the mailbag???? Email me at [email protected] No seriously- I’m not a stalker Living in New York affords me the chance to meet lots of famous people. The following is a report of every celebrity I met: (Oh if and Broson Pinchot or any of his lawyers are reading this- please don’t sue me) Justin Bateman- I met the star of Arrested Development the day after the SNL season ended at the UCB Theatre. He was doing monologues that night. We exchanged pleasantries and that was it. Will Arnett- Will is also on Arrested Development and is the star of any pornographic videos that him and his wife, Amy Poehler, have made. I met Will at the same time I met Bateman and again pleasantries were exchanged. Two weeks later I met him again. Thanks to the kindness of Ian Roberts, I had been afforded the chance to go backstage at the UCB Theatre. Will and I talked about the Leafs for a few minutes since he is a diehard Leafs fan. His Leafs fanaticism is actually the way me and Amy always started conversations. Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat- Growing up- Ricky Steamboat was one of my favourite wrestlers ever. The guy was such a clean cut 100% babyface that you couldn’t help but root him on. The Dragon’s retirement in 1994 saddened me but at thanks to videotape- we can still watch his amazing matches against Savage and Flair. Ten years later I got to meet him at a Ring of Honor show in Pennsylvania. After a match, in between some downtime, Steamboat was standing right behind me. I didn’t pass up a chance to meet a legend and went up to him. I shook his hand and told him how he was one of my childhood wrestling heroes next to Sting and Dustin Rhodes. He thanked me and I couldn’t believe that I had just met Ricky Steamboat. Two months later I saw him again at another ROH show and told him to kick CM Punk’s ass. He said he would. Bronson Pinchot- I am not mincing words. I will not hold anything back. Bronson Pinchot is a cum swallowing piece of shit asshole cocksucking motherfucker. To quote Hermoine Granger in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azabakan “That felt good.” I love the show Perfect Strangers. I used to watch it every week and I would revel in the adventures of Balki trying to make it in Chicago while Cousin Larry looked on in dismay. Hell Perfect Strangers spun off Family Matters. So how can you NOT love it? “Don’t be ridikeraus’ was like the catchphrase of the 80s. Me and my father had many debates on Balki and Larry: Gay or straight? Despite the first season Christmas episode (Where Larry is stuck in Chicago and can’t visit his family and Balki knits him in a quilt to make him feel better) I contended that they were cousins and not gay at all. I even overlooked his appearance on Step by Step and I thought Meego was a pretty funny show. Oh come on- the episode where Meego gets a credit card and spends like mad was funny. Unfortunately- no one else agreed with me. Last summer I found out that Bronson Pinchot would be in a play called Sly Fox. I was excited since meeting actors on Broadway plays is pretty easy. Me and my friend set a date to go and meet Bronson. I had fallen ill that day but I felt ready enough to go and get a picture with one of my childhood heroes. And I figure meeting Bronson would make me feel better. I was wrong. I saw Bronson walking down the street as he headed towards the entrance of the play. I got really excited and approached him. Bronson, Bronson? I called out his name but he ignored me. That was a tad troubling but I figured he just didn’t hear me. Little did I know what was in store for me when I confronted this massive wave of sperm known as Bronson Pinchot. As he got to the door of his play my friend and I very politely asked for a picture. That worthless dog fucking Nazi said no because “he doesn’t take pictures.” It should be noted that Bronson Pinchot’s fanbase is about 5-7 people and I’m one of them. So you would think he would be nice to one of his few fans. He signed for my friend but only wrote ‘Bro P.’ That piece of shit couldn’t even write out his full name. I asked him about the chance of a Perfect Strangers DVD (still in shock over being besmirched by Bronson freaking Pinchot) and he blew me off and ran inside. So yea- my like 80s hero was a total fucktard and if everyday a vulture came and pecked at his testicles- I maybe would feel like I had gotten some sweet revenge. Later that day, still in shock over Bronson Pinchot- I got even more ill and suffered a bloody nose. To quote Seth Meyers, “Coincidence? No.” Richard Dreyfuss- Richard Dreyfuss was also doing the play Sly Fox with Bronson Pinchot. He got out of his car completely plastered. He nearly fell over a few times as he stumbled into the entrance. Still a really cool guy and he signed for me. He just has a bit of a problem with the bottle. I was going to tell him I enjoyed Krippendorf’s Tribe but I didn’t want to get into a drunken donnybrook with Mr. Holland. That wouldn’t end well. Doug Benson- I had become a fan of Doug Benson’s ever since I became a regular viewer of Best Week Ever. The guy’s obsession with Ron Weasley and his barbs directed at Hailey Duff made him my favourite part of the show. I had walked by his show The Marijuanalogues a few times but had never gotten to meet the man. One day while on break from work and walking to Roll Roasters I noticed a familiar looking man walk by me. I stopped and turned my head and said: Doug Benson? He turned around and went: Hello. I was in shock- and I talked with him about Best Week Ever for a few moments. He noticed my attire and I told him I worked at Loews and he informed he was going to see The Bourne Supremacy. I was like: Bonus. When the Bourne Supremacy let out I waited for Doug to come out and he finally did. He instantly recognised me and he talked with me and my friend for a long time about Best Week Ever and his career. He was really cool and I still couldn’t believe I ran into him. Holly Hunter- I was taking tickets at my movie theatre when Holly Hunter came in. I recognised her and she smiled back and gave me the ‘I know you recognise me so I will let you know I am an approachable celebrity’ nod so I told her that Little Black Book looked like a good movie. For the record she was there to see The Bourne Supremacy. Ryder Strong- Ryder Strong is of course Shawn from Boy Meets World. Granted he’s no Topanga or as cool as Mr. Feeny but the first season of Boy Meets World did kick ass. Ryder was at my movie theatre to see The Manchurian Candidate. As the movie was letting out, I recognised him instantly to the shock of my co-workers. I was like: Ryder f’n Strong and informed my supervisor I would not be helping clean this theatre as meeting Ryder Strong was a bigger priority. I saw him walk into the bathroom and waited for him to walk out. I’m not gonna do the awkward urinal handshake- celebrities don’t seem to like that. He came out of the bathroom and I said: Ryder? He responded and I just told him how much I like Boy Meets World and how I would watch it on the Disney Channel. He seemed happy to be recognised and we had a nice mini-chat. Will Smith- I met Will Smith when he was scheduled to be on Dave Letterman. I got there relatively early and was one of the first people there. Other collectors who showed up informed me that Will was a very nice guy and he signs for everyone. I really like Will but I hadn’t done Letterman in a while and was using more of a tuneup for another big name I was planning to meet at Dave. Will came very early but even so- there were tons of collectors and dealers by the time he showed up. Will was AWESOME- and signed stuff for everyone. Being small- that meant I got overshadowed and stuff kept going over my head in front of Will’s face which was not what I had desired. Finally I kept waving my magazine in front of Will’s face enough and it got his attention and he signed for me. Definitely a class act. Dana Carvey- Dana was doing Letterman and given my past experiences there- I decided to get to Letterman at two. I stupidly had forgotten that Dana Carvey has no career and thus no one would really want his autograph. D’oh. There seriously was no one there for the longest time and I felt bad for making my friends get there so early. Dana finally showed up and despite there being only 4 people there- he said he would get us on the way out. Nothing against Dana but come on- you can sign for 4 people!! Dana did sign for everyone on the way out. I got him to sign my Wayne’s World DVD (personalised too!) and we talked about his comedy career and my fledgling comedy career. I told him how his comedy special that they played like 9,000 times on Comedy Central (this was before anyone watched the network) was one of my first inspirations for going into standup and he looked act me quizzically and I told him about my first show at HA Comedy Club. He was really cool and it was awesome getting to talk comedy with an SNL legend. JET- I really don’t know the names of the people in JET nor do I remember which member of JET I actually talked to. So for the interests in me being lazy and not wanting to look this up- we’ll just call them JET. JET was on the same show that Will Smith was on. They arrived walking down the street (which is badass). The paparazzi had to be told who they were. Once they found out they were more then happy to snap photos. I told JET I really liked ‘Are You Gonna Be My Girl’ and that they kicked ass on SNL. Which they did. Chauncey Billups- Laker killer and NBA Finals MVP Chauney was on Letterman the same day as Dana Carvey. He brought the NBA Trophy with him which unfortunately they wouldn’t me touch. I congratulated Chauncey on raping Kobe Bryant (bad choice of words) and on winning the title. He was cool- signed and took photos with everyone. I just wish the Nets hadn’t blown Games 6 and 7. George Pataki- I had always been a fan of Gov. Pataki since he took office in 1994. In fact, in 2002, when he ran against Carl McCall, I joined his campaign to help him win. This resulted me in getting a very nice Christmas card from the Pataki family. I was waiting outside my friends office and he just got out of a car and walked in. I was in shock for a moment but pulled it together and said hello and thanked him for all he had done for NY. I never got a chance to thank him for the Christmas card though. Deborah Norville- I saw Deborah in NBC and said hello to her. She said hi back. Rudy Guiliani- I had met Rudy before at a book signing in Toronto in November 2002. I was standing outside NBC when he walked out the building out of nowhere. I was stunned and went up to him. We exchanged pleasantries and I told him he was my favourite politician and thanked him for all he did after 9/11. He’s the man. Biff Henderson- Biff and me go way back. Ever since I started stalking at Letterman- Biff’s always been there to keep me entertained and make the time pass by. One time I ran into him at Grand Central. Biff and I would share deep conversations about the meaning of life and what place we truly do have in this world. But Biff is the man. Paul Shaffer- I also saw Paul everytime I went to Letterman. He’s a cool guy. My friend CGA told Paul he liked him on SNL and I think Paul did the math in his head and realised my friend was lying. Good times. I still think it’s cool that he’s the first guy to ever say the ‘f’ word on TV. Stephanie- Stephanie had become a running gag among me and my friends whenever we stalked at Letterman. For those who don’t know, Stephanie is Dave’s assistance and every week Dave talks to her about her life. The segments are usually very very funny and they earned Stephanie a cult following. The problem is that Stephanie and Dave always talk on the phone so we never knew what Stephanie looked like. Thus the quandary in terms of meeting her. We asked every woman if they were the famous Stephanie and we were shot down each time. Finally- 14 months after the Stephanie game began- we finally met the woman, the myth, the legend and some may even say- the goddess. And it was all because of Biff Henderson. Stephanie and Biff came out the same time and Biff was like: Hey Stephanie! And I was like: OMG Biff- is that really THE Stephanie? And he was all: Uhhh yea. And I was all: No way. And he was like: Way. And you could see where this went. So when Stephanie walked by us, I finally got to exchange words with one of the most iconic television figures in the history of TV. President Bill Clinton- I had never met a former president in my life and I always wanted to- whether they were Democrat or Republican. Even Jimmy Carter- since he was a Braves fan and all. I didn’t go to any of the book signings Clinton did since I didn’t want to shell out $30 to read his book or wait in a long line. And I didn’t want to go try to meet him on Letterman since I figured security would be out the ass. So I settled on the world’s greatest place for meeting people- the Daily Show. Even though he was a former President- it’s the Daily Show! Come on! I got to the Daily Show at my usual time only to see tons of collectors, tons of security and with the knowledge that Clinton already went in. D’oh. I waited for him to come out all while getting annoyed at Secret Service for constantly telling us to move away from the car. Clinton came out but he didn’t come over to where the collectors and I were standing. He happened to come out at the same time as the audience and he was mobbed. Secret Service be damned. Clinton looked like he was loving it- he had a big grin on his face. I soon realised that if I just stood where I was- I would not be meeting President Clinton. So I did the smartest thing I could think of. I ran up to him. Nobody tackled me, nobody seemed to care. I went up to Clinton and asked him to sign a piece of paper that Sen. McCain had signed. He shook my hand and obliged. He signed it very slowly and he stopped at Bill Clint to sign for others. I was more then satisfied with that and took my paper away. Clinton saw that and said “No I’m not done yet,” and went back to meticulously signing his paper. When he was done I soaked it all in and realised I had met BILL FREAKING CLINTON. The autograph looks great too- you could tell he wanted to make sure I KNEW it was signed by Bill Clinton. I don’t agree with him politically- but he was a very nice guy. He has this rock star like aura about him. I was in awe of his presence. The guy was just larger then life. Brittany Murphy- Brittany Murphy, like Will Smith, had a great reputation among autograph seekers and collectors. She was that one celebrity who signed for everyone no questions asked. So in the city one day I decided to see if that was true. She was on Last Call with Carson Daly and I waited for her to come out. Brittany did and she did nothing to damage her already high reputation. She signed for everyone. And I mean everyone. No matter how many items they had- Brittany signed everything. She kept running back and forth trying to make sure everyone got something from her. She was telling the fans how much she loved them and how thankful she was to us- it was madness. Her publicist and security kept trying to get her to leave but everytime Brittany would head to her car- someone would wave something and she’d have to sign it. Security yelled there’d be no more pictures taken. I asked her for one and she said: Of course. It was crazy. While her publicist kept rolling her eyes- Brittany just kept signing. She’s probably the nicest celebrity I’ve ever met. Just someone who loves her fans and knows without them she’d be nothing. Jamie Foxx- I told Jamie that Collateral looks like a great movie and he told me to definitely go and see it. I ended up seeing Collateral three times so he was right. Avril Lavigne- Meeting Avril last year was a big highlight for me and it made me feel special that she only signed for me and my friend because we looked like we were kids. With Avril set to release another album I was excited that I had a chance to possibly meet her again. Thanks to some connections I was able to secure tickets to see her at Webster Hall at a free concert she was doing for AOL users. I also had VIP stuff that would allow me to meet Avril. Unfortunately, I got to the show later then I had planned and I had all kinds of trouble hooking up with my VIP connections person so it looked like my chances of meeting Avril were minimal at best. After her concert (Which kicked ass) me and my friends tried to find ways to get backstage. We got a kind person to give us their VIP pass and we migrated up there. By the time I got up there I saw that Avril had already left but my friends informed me that they found Avril’s car and knew where she’d be coming out. I was excited and ran out of Webster Hall hoping Avril encounter #2 would occur. We waited for her and passed the time thinking of new ways to insult a young girl who we felt was getting unfair special treatment. We also pissed off foreigners but well I do that all the time. Finally Avril came out- this was during the cute long blonde hair period of Avril’s life which lasted all of one day. Unlike at Letterman this was all kids so Avril was super nice. She signed for me and thanked me when I told her she kicked ass in concert. She took lots of pictures but I forgot to ask for one. D’oh. The next night Avril had an album release party which I went to. Avril was there for all of 2 seconds. Seriously- she came downstairs and left. I wanted to get an autograph for a friend so I approached her car, said hello again (she recognised me) and I got my thing signed. I never did get a picture but hey- that’s for album #3. Mr. Burt Reynolds- I was very excited when I found out that one of the biggest screen icons in Hollywood history would be on the Daily Show. Oh and one of Norm’s greatest impressions. Letterman was in reruns and the NBC shows were pre-empted by the Olympics so there was an inordinate number of autograph seekers there to meet Mr. Burt Reynolds. Sadly he got stuck in traffic and was very late arriving to the show so he didn’t sign on the way in. I said hello to him and he patted me on the shoulder and said: I’ll get you on the way out. AWESOME. Mr. Burt Reynolds soon came out later and it was awesome. The guy was mobbed and he was loving it all. He has poor hearing in one ear but he was still signing and taking pics with everyone. He personalised everything- he asked for your name and then wrote something and added his name. For all the ladies he wrote Love- cause you know Burt Reynolds is one smooth chap. He shook my hand and was like: Nice to meet you. I was like: Whoa- you’re Burt freaking Reynolds!!! He was really cool and it was a blast getting to meet Turd Ferguson. Seth Green- I wanted to get my Austin Powers DVD signed so I figured I’d go back to the Daily Show and try to meet Scott Evil. Seth was really cool and he was also really short. Like my height. I asked him what his favourite Austin Powers movie was and he said the third one. He had a funny autograph too. He drew a bubble above Mike Myers’ head and wrote it there. Senator John Kerry- Even though I don’t necessarily like the guy, I wasn’t about to pass up the chance to meet him. I had met Stephen Harper back in March so I might as well meet the guy trying to unseat the current US President. John Kerry was on the Daily Show- the autograph seeker’s dream and paradise. I got there early and found out that Sen. Kerry had already gone in. I waited with my friend CGA and chatted with a Secret Service agent. I tried to sweet talk him to get Kerry to come over here. We weren’t where the other collectors were since there was no room left and we figured Kerry wouldn’t come over and sign for them. Kerry came out and we were wrong. Kerry did go over to the collectors and signed away after doing some photo ops. I kept trying to get his attention but no go. I was kind of pissed- I got searched by Secret Service and he still won't come over here? You know- considering I was making tons of off-colour jokes about Kerry and Secret Service did nothing- they’re not that good. Kerry was about to get in his car when he spotted the guy next to me. This guy had a big sign that said Vietnam Vets for Kerry and you know Kerry couldn’t ignore him. Kerry went over to him and signed and talked to him and I asked Kerry if he would sign for me. He did and I thanked him and then Kerry left. Unfortunately for my friend CGA- Kerry didn’t sign for him. Considering I’m the Republican and he’s the Democrat- that’s kind of funny. Carla Gugino- After my experience with John Kerry me and CGA went to NBC to pee and see if anyone else was there. Carla Gugino from Karen Sisco and the mom from Spy Kids was there. I got a picture with her as did CGA. So it wasn’t a total loss for him. Max Weinberg- I ran into Max on the street. Sadly unlike our last encounter he was not carrying a shovel. I told him he should bring back Canadian Small Talk Moment (come on- how awesome would it be if they did that in New York) and he said that was a good idea and he’d consider it. Tim Meadows- I love Tim Meadows. I think he’s the most underrated castmember in SNL history and I’d rank him as one of my five favourite castmembers of all time. When the movie The Cookout was coming out I was hoping he would do NY Press. I soon learned that Tim was doing Last Call with Carson Daly and I was excited to get to meet Lionel Osbourne. Two days before Last Call was scheduled to tape I went to Assscat at the UCB Theatre. There was a rumour that Tim Meadows was there but I found out from people who went to an earlier show that Tim did not appear on stage. I forgot about him and went about enjoying the show. At intermission I was talking on the phone to a friend and TIM MEADOWS!~ walked by me….out of nowhere. I was STUNNED. I quickly told my friend I would call her back and went about composing myself. I mean- this was Lionel Osbourne, Leon Phelps, OJ Simpson, Mr. Duvall, the black guy in the Bill Brasky skits, the guy who signed that thirty year contract- TIM MEADOWS. I approached him and said “Tim?” Unlike Bronson Tim acknowledged me with a smile and I just told him how awesome he was on SNL. I then had to mention Perspectives from the Rob Lowe episode with Jermaine Allinsworth because it has my favourite SNL line ever: “Baseball fever: Catch it.” I told him that was the greatest line ever, he laughed and continued on his merry way. I saw him come back into the theatre after intermission and knew I had to get a picture with the man, the myth, the black guy from the Michael Richards Show. Tim came out and I asked him for a picture and he was obliging. Whoa- according to MS Word- that is a word. Anywho- I took a picture with Tim, praised him in Mean Girls and was ecstatic that I got to meet one of my favourite SNLers ever. John McEnroe- I met McEnroe literally 5 seconds after I talked to Tim at the UCB Theatre. He walked by and I blurted something out about his TV show. What was I supposed to say? You’re a funny asshole? After assscat I waited for him for a while and asked for a picture. McEnroe was pretty rude about the whole thing and made me and my friend take a picture with him to save him time. I didn’t mind since John McEnroe really shouldn’t be a nice guy. Hilary Duff- Last season I ended this by going in great detail about meeting Kristin Davis. She was my favourite celebrity that I met last summer and this year that title goes to Hilary Duff. I had become a Hilary fan like many people my age and sex- I thought she was pretty hot and when I found out she was only 15 I was a bit surprised. After watching the So Yesterday video a 1,000 times and spending more time in the Lizzie McGuire Sears section then anyone really should- I become a fan of the girl. Her songs were fun to listen to and she was very nice to look at. And no- she is not f-t. Plus the Hilary v. Lindsay feud made reading In Touch and US Weekly a lot of fun. I of course supported Hilary a 100%. Then Come Clean came out and my love for Hilary intensified since that song kicks tons of ass. In fact- I’m listening to it right now. Discovering Lizzie McGuire made my love for Hilary intensify. Lizzie McGuire is one of those shows that I wish had aired when I was a kid- even though I probably would’ve laughed it off as a girly show and moved on. Here was a show for teens and pre-teens that actually accepted the fact that its audience (GASP!) might have a brain. While the storylines weren’t groundbreaking or super intelligent- the show was smart, fun and had many very well crafted episodes. This was a show that people could watch and relate to. The show had lessons but they really didn’t shove them down your throat- you picked them up as the episode went along. And no joke- the Gordo-Lizzie storyline was some of the most compelling TV I’ve seen. And people who say Hilary has no talent are full of shit- the girl has this ability to despite her fame and beauty- to come off like a regular teenager going through the same problems the audience is. The naivety and earnestness her character conveys made every episode a lot of fun to watch. Even though I was 19, and out of the demographic for the audience of the show, I could relate a lot to that show and a lot of the storylines really struck a chord with me and made me think. I hadn’t had the best of luck to start the summer. I had to deal with the death of my two dogs and worked at a job that I hated. Hilary helped me get through all that- her music always made me feel better and for a limited time gave me a positive outlook on life. And watching an episode of Lizzie always put a big smile on my face. Even though there were a lot of dark clouds circling in my life- Listening or watching her always helped brighten up my day- if only for a little bit. Hilary was my goal person to meet for the summer. I knew she had a movie coming out July 16th and I hoped she would do New York media appearances. One night while surfing her site I found out that Hilary would be doing Letterman on July 14th. I asked off for work that day and hoped another Letterman miracle would occur. I bought a card for her- I realised I wouldn’t be able to say everything I wanted to if I met her at a talk show- so I got a card and wrote her a letter basically saying everything in the above paragraph. That meaning her meant a lot to me and that she was always there to make me feel better. My goal was to meet her, give her the card and get an autograph. I would not be denied. Why Not Take a crazy chance Why Not Do a crazy dance I was ready on July 14th- I had my magazine in hand and I was hoping this would work out. I didn’t think Hilary was that big and figured not many people would be there. I had forgotten the rule I learned from Avril and the Olsens that applies to meeting jailbait: The problem with meeting teenage stars is that presumably they have just become famous and just starting to get hot. So they are starting to make media appearances for the first time and autograph collectors and dealers don’t have their autographs yet. And these people want their autographs and will not pass up the opportunity in the event the star’s celebrity flames out shortly after. (See the Olsens). So that means every collector and dealer will be there trying to get the autograph. And that’s unfortunately what happened with Hilary. Even though me and my friend got there around 1:30- there was already people there and pretty soon the place was packed. There were more people for her then Will Smith. That’s sad. There was also a family who brought their two kids. I don’t think they knew how much of a zoo Letterman can be. We waited all day in the hot hot hot sun. I passed the time by writing my card to Hilary that I hoped to give her. Finally Hilary’s car pulled up and she got out. She looked so beautiful and I instantly could not believe that Hilary Duff was right near me. Autograph collectors and dealers are assholes and if they don’t get their autograph then no one will. So they began shoving people and going crazy when Hilary came out. Understandably her bodyguard got a bit nervous and I would’ve too. He yelled that we lost our chance and Hilary ran inside. I don’t blame her at all. If three years ago I was watching people shove each other and go crazy just for my autograph, especially when most of these people were middle aged men who had never seen anything I’ve ever done, well then I would’ve ran in too. Let the rain fall down And wake my dreams Let it wash away My sanity I heard that rain was in the forecast for that day and I was worried since even though I had had one miracle in the rain- I don’t think Hilary Duff was the type to sign in pouring rain. After Hilary went in- the floodgates opened and the rain fell. Hard. In some weird way I was paying my dues to meet her I guess. We all sang Come Clean as the rain fell. It felt appropriate. The sun came out (Everybody’s waiting for a day in the sun) and I was sure Hilary would figure out our devotion, stay and sign and everything would be great. In a moment everything can change Hilary came out but she was in a rush and could only sign for a few people. I was not one of them. She got into her car and left, taking my dreams with her. I wasn’t too upset- I know there’s always a risk in your dreams not coming true and seeing her up close was AWESOME as she looked really good. I still wasn’t as upset as I should’ve been about missing Hilary. Seeing her up close was still keeping my spirits up but then I had to take the dreaded subway. The subway is famous for killing any good spirits you might have. I had nothing to read so I read my Teen People I brought for Hilary to sign. When I turned to that page with the A Cinderella Story ad- it started to sink in. I had failed. I was a loser. My mission was to go meet Hilary Duff and get her to sign something for me. I still had not met Hilary Duff and I still had not gotten anything signed. All I had to show for it was two metrocards. So I won't give up No I won't break down Sooner than it seems life turns around And I will be strong Even if it all goes wrong Hilary hadn’t left New York yet and I hadn’t given up. Thursday she was scheduled for appearances on Live with Regis and Kelly, a signing at Toys R US and TRL. Live was out due to it being on so early and it being too hit and miss. The signing at Toys R US was risky but maybe I could somehow meet her. I had no idea how to meet anyone on TRL. But I was determined to make this work. I got to Toys R US around 12 and waited for her to come in. I saw a long line of people who were going to meet her at a signing and instantly hated every single one of them. I waited around for a bit and saw her black car pull up. It went around the side and I followed suit. I saw it go in an open garage and Hilary got out. I didn’t run into the garage cause I didn’t want to die but we locked eyes and she waved to me. I waved back. So I had gotten a wave. But I still hadn’t given her my card and still hadn’t officially met her. Time to go into Toys R US to see what I could do. At Toys R US, Hilary and skater Tony Hawk were hosting some promotion for something called Video Now. Hilary would be presenting it, speaking for a few minutes and then going off to sign autographs for lucky bastards who had gotten tickets. I didn’t even know about this. But still- I wasn’t giving up. I went and got close to the front and waited a while to see Hilary and Hawk come out. They did and did nice little presentations. Hilary and I locked eyes again and again we waved at each other. Hilary then had to go leave to sign autographs- I tried to get her but there was too many people. So no card, no meeting- still just two waves. Toys R US had failed. I was leaving and noticed two collectors standing in line that I recognised. They were nice guys so I didn’t hate them like I do other collectors. I informed them of my sad plight and how all I had left was TRL. They were very helpful and told me where to go to meet people on TRL. They warned me it was very hard and probably not going to happen due to overzealous security but I wasn’t about to pass this up… Before I walk away and I blow the ending I went over to where TRL was and ran into some Hilary fans. Some I remembered from Letterman, others had told me about when they went to her hotel. I could’ve done all that but I think going to meet a 16 year old girl at her hotel is kind of creepy I didn’t want to come off like. I have no problem meeting celebrities at talk shows and other public events but a hotel is a different story. So anyway- I was at TRL and I was so nervous. I hadn’t eaten anything all day and I was really feeling the effects. My stomach was queasy and I was on edge. If I ate something I would probably have a hard time swallowing it. I was hanging around talking about TRL and I learned that the cops usually make us wait across the street and then when the celeb comes in- it’s a free for all. This was not looking very good but I had faith. I prayed to God and hoped a miracle would occur. Hilary’s security guard came up to us and told us to wait up against a wall and if we were calm, Hilary would be nice and she’d sign for us. We all went up against the wall and I felt a tinge of optimism. Then the cops came and I felt pessimistic again as they told us to go across the street. We informed them what Hilary’s guard said and they were cool with that. We would wait against a wall, Hilary would come by and if she wanted to sign- she would. As each minute passed, Hilary’s arrival became closer and much more anticipated. Her bodyguard once again told us to behave and act calm and things should be fine. Don’t shove or shriek- if we give them no reason to be worried- she has no reason to not be nice. I told the girls next to me just to be calm when Hilary arrived and they can freak out as much as they want if they meet her. My heart was beating so fast at that moment- I felt like I was watching a Game 7. And I don’t like Game 7s. Right before Hilary came in her guard noticed some collectors/dealers who had been at her hotel a lot and had harassed Hilary and her mom in an attempt to get signatures and pictures. He ordered them to leave and said if they didn’t he would pull Hilary right in. And there was my caveat- I knew something had to come and screw it up. I think the collectors knew we would kill them if they stayed and by a miracle of God- they left. Everything was in motion. We had done everything they asked. All we had to do was wait. I can't wait for the world to spin I can't wait to be happenin Ooh, What's it gonna take I can't wait for the time to come When I'll be shining like the sun I can't wait (I can't wait) Hilary showed up looking as beautiful as ever. I was towards the end of the line so I had to wait while people got their autographs. I kept waiting someone to screw it up. Someone to shove someone, someone to get pushy- these were autograph collectors and dealers. They were not known for being well-adjusted people. I asked the cop if Hilary would sign and he said yes. Don’t screw it up. Then the moment occurred. Hilary Duff approached me as I stood up against a wall. I asked her to please sign for me. She said sure and I said “Thank you so much. This means a lot to me.” She smiled back and then I remembered my card. I said “Hilary- I wrote you this card and I really want you to have it.” A big smile came across her face and her eyes lit up. She thanked me and took the card. My two goals had been set. She kept signing but no one seemed to talk to her. So I kept talking to her. I told her how I enjoyed Lizzie McGuire and mentioned how I love her singing and how I looked forward to seeing A Cinderella Story. I don’t remember exactly what I said but she kept smiling at me and thanking me for being a great fan. Her bodyguard was trying to pressure into going in but Hilary refused as she said she wanted to and was going to sign for everyone. I thanked her for being such a nice person and again- she smiled at me and acted like it was nothing. I watched Hilary make a few more fans dreams come true and then she went into TRL. I ran down the street in happiness. I kept saying, “I met Hilary Duff. I met Hilary Duff.” I called everyone I could and one of my messages ended up being saved on a friend’s voicemail for a long time because I was so happy and excited. Is it sad that I needed to meet a 16-year-old pop star/actress to turn my summer around? Maybe. But I don’t care. I met Hilary Duff- it took me a long time, I endured all different kinds of weather, all different kinds of heartbreak and nervousness but in the end I got to give her my card and Hilary got to know how her work deeply touched one of her fans. On July 15th- Hilary made one man’s day and more importantly- she helped give me a positive outlook on life and made me realise that dreams can come true. That subway ride back home- was a lot easier this day. I mean- I met and talked to Hilary Duff. Have you ever seen such a beautiful night? I could almost kiss the stars for shining so bright When i see you smiling, I go oh oh oh I would never want to miss this Cuz in my heart I know what this is Hey now Hey now This is what dreams are made of Hey now Hey now This is what dreams are made of I've got somewhere I belong I've got somebody to love This is what dreams are made of To see pictures from my summer of stalking and putting tampons in my mouth go here- http://photobucket.com/albums/v198/wnyxmcneal/ Finale Lookback- This summer, in the span of like 2 days I got to see three things I had never seen before. The series finales of Family Matters, Lizzie McGuire and Step by Step. How this TV anomaly occurred- we’ll never know. But I thought I should take a look and review three of the most landmark events in television history. Family Matters- Apparently in season 9, Laura realised that she liked Steve (as Steve- not Stefan) and they began testing out a relationship. So as Family Matters was winding down both Stefan and Steve were really into Laura and wanted to be more then a friend. That’s where the 2nd to last episode has us. The 2nd to last episode of Family Matters was awesome and it made me remember the Family Matters of yore- sweet and funny. Of course since half of the cast was decimated and Harriet was now white (Damn you Jocelyn Elder!) it wasn’t as good as a Family Matters from 1992 but it still kicked ass. Stefan and Steve both proposed to Laura and Laura had to pick one. Steve’s proposal was some of the best continuity in TV history. There was some old episode (1991) where Steve and Laura worked on a science project and Steve got really into it and made the Winslow’s living room into a shrine for Laura. If that wasn’t enough he gave her a ring. Laura flipped upon seeing that and was like: Dude- I don’t like you. Stop trying. And Steve gave this monologue about how he just has to keep trying. Steve: Loving you is like trying to touch a star. You know you'll never reach it, but you have to keep trying. What did Steve use to propose to Laura? THE SAME RING. Come on- that’s awesome. You know it’s awesome and everyone should revel in its awesomeness. This is a show that wrote out the grandma, Judy, Waldo, Richie, Rachel and CHANGED HARRIETS. But they remembered Steve giving Laura a ring and acknowledge that he kept it all those years because he had faith in her. You can’t not love that. Laura was taking her time deciding on who to marry so Steve decided to be the bigger man and move to Russia. Laura realised she couldn’t deal with life without Steve and accepted his proposal and they were engaged. Great TV. The finale saw Steve go into space and almost die while Laura looked on all concerned. The plot sounds hokey and stupid but it was really well done. The subplot of white Harriet wanting Eddie to not be a cop and be on desk duty would’ve been better had it not involved white Harriet. God I hate her. The ending with Steve coming back to Laura and them kissing as the Winslow family looked on was a great way to end the show. Even though it fell off track the final few years- they still had a great ending. Jo Marie Payton having a cameo in the finale was also pretty cool. I wish she would’ve kicked white Harriet’s ass. So a solid thumbs up for Family Matters. Lizzie McGuire- Lizzie McGuire probably held the best finale out of all three. I’m reviewing the final episode ever produced since it wasn’t the finale episode ever aired. The last few episodes of Lizzie McGuire were missing Miranda, Lizzie’s best female friend and thus the writers decided to pull the trigger on the Ross and Rachel of the Disney world- the relationship between Lizzie and her guy friend Gordo. Since the series began there had always been hints that Gordo and Lizzie liked each other more then friends and with Miranda out of the picture- they could finally do it. The issue was that Gordo didn’t know how to tell Lizzie he liked her and even though she figured it out, after Gordo never followed it up, Lizzie just forgot about it and poor Gordo was tortured. The final episode of Lizzie sees them ready to leave 8th grade and head to high school. Lizzie is scared of going to high school but like the awesome friend that he is Gordo reminds me of all the fun she had in junior high and how he knows she will have tons of fun in high school. Lizzie gets her yearbook and Gordo knows this is his chance to write something profound and finally tell Lizzie of his feelings for her. So the whole episode is building to this and it’s great TV. You want either Gordo to tell her or Lizzie to figure it out and the whole episode- I was on the edge of my seat. Gordo spends the whole episode with Lizzie’s yearbook wondering what to say. Earlier Lizzie had said she hates how people always write the same thing. “You rock, don't ever change,” which of course she plans to write in everyone’s yearbook. Gordo knows he has to write something good. But how can he take all those feelings and put them on paper and not get rejected? Plus Lizzie really wants her yearbook back. The class is about to pose for one last photo of their junior high career. And Gordo is finally done writing to Lizzie. Lizzie looks inside and she sees that Gordo has written: Dear Lizzie, You rock. Don't ever change. And only I really mean it. Come on? How awesome? How awesome? I got goosebumps when this occurred. That line rapes Get Off the Plane. Lizzie finally figures it all out and as they pose for the class picture- she leans in and gives Gordo a big kiss on the cheek. Apparently Gordo originally wrote something longer and had much more to say. Lizzie was still touched etc. I kind of liked the change they made. Gordo was straight, to the point (he stopped pussying around) and he said it in a way that only Lizzie would really figure out. Awesome and a huge thumbs up for the Lizzie finale. Step by Step- Okay- not all finales can be perfect and the Step by Step finale is evidence of that. The problem with Step by Step is that I don’t think they had any idea the finale would be the finale and thus we got a lame episode. The next to last episode of Step by Step was really good though. CODY!~ came back and the Codeman, as always, brought the awesome. I’m glad CBS forgave Sasha Mitchell for beating the crap out of his wife. Cody not recognising Mark (who had hit pubes) was a funny bit. The finale had a lame plot, and one I had seen on Full House. The Lamberts got a big offer to sell the house and with that money they could buy a bigger house and be much happier etc. Of course Lily (who somehow aged to 5-6 years) was dead set against it and spent the whole episode acting like a douche. Finally Carol and Frank figured it out and that coupled with the fact that the people who wanted to buy the house were assholes meant they came up with an ELABORATE SCHEME!~ to get the people not to buy the house and everyone was all happy. Lame. Thumbs down for the Step by Step finale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 And now…… the actual review. Cold Opening Cast- Chris Parnell, Will Forte, Seth Meyers Thoughts- Well you knew they were going to begin the season like this and you also knew it wouldn’t top the Gore v. Bush debate from 2004. Will Forte seemed to take a step back in his Bush impression but I don’t think it was his fault. The work hard thing really wasn’t a good joke to run with. I really don’t remember Bush doing it that much. I would’ve gone with Bush’s constant pausing and the stumbling over his words. That’s a lot funnier and you could milk it better. Seth did an excellent job as John Kerry. I don’t remember Kerry moving his hands a lot during the debate but Seth picked up on it and made it work. He also has Kerry’s voice down pat and the flip flopping was really good. This needed more Kerry and a lot less W. Bush. Good start though- they really need someone to sigh or check their watch in debate #2. *** Monologue Cast- Alec Baldwin, Ben Affleck Thoughts- Good God. Ben Affleck has got to be the most self-deprecating man on the planet. Part of me kind of wishes nothing but misery for the rest of his life so he can go on SNL and just mock himself for it. Alec Baldwin showing up was really cool and his interaction with Affleck was really funny. I wouldn’t have minded seeing him host the premiere. This was really funny and it’s good to see the monologues off to a good start. ***1/2 Boner Juice Cast- Amy Poehler, Rob Riggle Thoughts- Well that was an interesting way for Rob Riggle to make his SNL debut. I’m sure his fellow marines must be very proud. Given that we see the first commercial 10,000 times it’s a tad disheartening that it had to suck. I did laugh at Riggle’s enormous boner at the end (that came out so wrong) but other then that this was a pretty lame parody. Come on SNL- surely we can make fun of something a bit harder to get a laugh at. *1/2 Debbie Downer Cast- Affleck, Rachel Dratch, Poehler, Horatio Sanz, Maya Rudolph, Fred Armisen Thoughts- Why did they have to do this? Why? I mean honestly? It should’ve been decided it would be a one time thing the minute Lindsay Lohan stood up, tried to compose herself, but just fell down laughing. Let the moment live. Did we need to see Debbie Downer again? No. Everyone would just be waiting for the big crackup moment where everyone lost it and Rachel Dratch looked like she was about to pee herself. But come on- the minute they did that it would be cliché and contrived as hell. So they decided to play it straight and rely on Debbie’s hilarious Downerisms to get them through. But someone forgot to give Debbie any funny material to work with. They tried with the musical accompaniment to get that old Debbie Downer magic going and it just didn’t work. The first one worked, aside from the cast losing it so badly, because Debbie had a lot of funny stuff to say. (The anthrax line, I can’t have children etc). I laughed at the British hostage remark but other then that everyone’s timing was really off and it came off like a pathetic attempt to recapture some magic. Debbie Downer was lightning in a bottle, one of those things where all the pieces happened to fit perfectly together. That doesn’t happen again and SNL learned the hard way? Did SNL redo Cowbell? No. So why did Debbie Downer have to suffer the same fate? Before anyone asks- they could’ve easily done Cowbell again by using Bruce Dickinson in a new setting. It would’ve been horrible- that’s the point. SNL should try to come up with something original next time. ¾* Swift Veterans for Truth Cast- Parnell, Darrell Hammond, Sanz, Armisen, Forte Thoughts- I don’t understand what the crowd’s problem with this was but I thought this was hilarious. The captions for each people (Travel Agent, Watched Platoon) were awesome and I loved the whole bit on John Kerry marrying two Viet Cong. They also got in another great dig at the flip flopping. The crowd’s apathy kind of hurt it a bit but the rest of this was very funny. They even managed to get in a Jane Fonda reference at the end! How can you not love it? **** Fun with the Democrats Cast- Affleck, Hammond, Rudolph, Meyers Thoughts- I think he should’ve left a long time ago and was pretty bad last year- but man- anytime Darrell busts out Slick Willy- I forget my dislike for him and instantly start laughing. According to the SNL writers, Theresa Heinz Kerry is apparently a black woman. I thought based on the pictures I saw this week that John was the one that was black. Maya was grating as Heinz Kerry but Seth has got Kerry down pat- it’s pretty scary. Affleck was very funny as James Carville- the impression was a bit off at times so I gotta knock down some points for that. SNL continues to shine in the political humour department and if they can polish Bush- we’ll have a lot of fun going into Election Day. ***3/4 Nelly w/ Jahkim ‘Push Me’ I know I spelled his name wrong but it was either that or ‘Black guy who looks just like Nelly but isn’t’’ I never really have gotten into Nelly- he had that song where he mentioned Jason Kidd but that’s about it. He doesn’t seem to wear the band-aid anymore. Of course the big sticking point regarding Nelly’s performance was the stool. Now let’s look back at my rules of musical performances and see which rule Nelly broke. Don’t suck, don’t do weird dance moves, don’t be boring, don’t sit on a stool, don’t play a slow song for your second song and don’t plug your album. Nelly violated rule #1 and rule #4. Rule #4 is one of the most serious offences of the ‘Don’t suck’ code so sadly Mr. Nelly will have to be punished. Eh whatever- this song sucked- stool or not. *1/2 Weekend Update Cast- James Gandolfini, Affleck, Tina Fey, Poehler, Sanz Thoughts- How did I feel about Amy Poehler’s performance? A: The only reason this Weekend Update gets as high a rating it does is because of James Gandolfini. Okay- I’ll rant for you guys even though it’s 2 am. I don’t get how Amy wind up on the Update desk. Why actually I do. She’s been buddy buddy with Tina for years, has a TV friendly face and they figured they could get more press for having two chicks. This also avoids the OMG HE’S NOT JIMMY comparisons since Jimmy lacked ovaries. Of course this is all stupid and I think it’s a shame that Seth Meyers is not sitting there co-anchoring the Update desk with Tina. Now I know there are lot of arguments against him. Maybe he did botch his audition- we don’t know. But he’s been on the air for three seasons, I think Lorne knows what he’s capable of and one audition shouldn’t cripple a man. Then there’s the other reasoning I keep hearing and it really ticks me off. SNL was afraid of the Jimmy comparisons Seth would get. That’s a load of crap right there. Would Seth have gotten comparisons to Jimmy? Of course. It’s natural. But here’s the deal. Once you’re good: The comparisons and rumbling go away. Phil Hartman was amazing as Clinton. Darrell Hammond took over. Darrell was so good that he made the impression his own. Norm Macdonald was amazing on Weekend Update. Colin Quinn took over under a tough position and bombed so no one forgot Norm and hated Colin for it. I think it would’ve been rough for Seth at first- again- not denying that. But I’ve seen the guy work. I know how he is- I’ve seen him do his commentaries on the Update desk and I could tell he’d be great at the Update desk. I think after a few weeks he would’ve made people slowly forget Jimmy and make the co-anchor position his own and everything would’ve fine. But instead SNL had to go with a weird and I think loopy choice: Amy Poehler. I like Amy a lot. She’s really funny in skits, and can do some good impressions. But she doesn’t seem like the kind of person who would work out that well on WU. The desk is not for everyone and Amy didn’t make a good impression. She was flat out awful tonight. Just terrible. Was it nerves? Maybe. But I think after three years on the show, she should be able to control her nerves. Amy was stiff, she looked scared out of her mind. Her delivery was stiff and awkward. Her jokes were horrible and most of them just didn’t work. Her delivery really killed a lot of them. They never had a chance. She seemed to try to use her cuteness to get ahead. That doesn’t work with me. The hashish bit works fine but Amy had to try and spice it up a bit and be all cutey- and it ended up being irritating and not funny at all. She needed applause and audience sympathy after her first joke? That’s not how I want my Weekend Update anchor to act. She just seemed unnatural out there. It was probably first show jitters- well I hope it was first hope jitters. Norm had some clunkers in his day. But even though she will get better and the WUs will probably be good- that’s not the point. Amy/Tina is a fine solid team. But I don’t want a good and solid team. Weekend Update is the centrepiece of the show to me. It can salvage a suckfest or it can make a great show that much more of a classic. Weekend Update is the show to me sometimes- it’s how I became so obsessed with SNL and started writing 21 page reviews like you’re reading now. I want Weekend Update to be great. I want it to be hitting **** every week or close to it. I want jokes that make me laugh, jokes that shock me and bits that are clever and funny. I truly think Seth Meyers could’ve provided all of that. He seems like a natural whenever he does commentaries. Amy was just not in her element tonight and it showed. I hope she gets better and starts kicking a lot of ass- but Tina’s jokes can only carry her so far. Tina was really good tonight although the Bush hating jokes have to get better. Jon Stewart doesn’t seem to like Bush either. His jokes are ridicilously mean and very very funny. Tina just keeps making this lame jokes about Bush being dumb then went out in 2000 and are only used by tired hacks like Jay Leno. I’m not saying this because of my political affiliation- I’m saying it because Tina can do so much better and truly roast the President but instead goes for cheap jabs. Come on Tina- be mean and vicious. Usually at this point I’m bemoaning the fact that the commentaries sucked and had to bring down another Weekend Update but they saved WU tonight. James Gandolfini was a nice surprise and his commentary was fantastic. His constant snapping at Tina for interrupting him and the fact that he tried to cram as many euphemisms for anal sex in his commentary as possible makes him a hero in my book. Just awesome stuff by Gandolfini. And there’s nothing I like more then seeing Ben Affleck be trotted out once again to make sure he ripped on the movies he forgot to rip on his monologue and in March. Affleck’s barbs at Damon were really funny and I loved seeing him mock Paycheque. Even though he didn’t get a great show tonight- Affleck was his usual awesome self. Horatio Sanz was Sanz. He didn’t lose it which is good, but wasn’t that funny- which is bad. The jokes were alright but Gandolfini and Affleck really saved it this Weekend Update. Let’s see what the girls can do next week. *** Trouble on the Esclator Cast- Affleck, Poehler, Dratch, Parnell, Rudolph, Forte, Riggle Thoughts- I could see what they were going for and I admire their effort but this just fell horribly flat. Kudos to Amy Poehler for winning the Weekend Update co-anchor job and the ‘Who gets to kiss the host’ contest. Forte as the fireman plummetting to his death was funny and I laughed whenever Affleck slapped Rachel but the rest of this was just not funny at all. It went on WAY too long and just kept getting unfunnier and unfunnier. Affleck tried but he can only do much. ¾* Crazy DJ Cast- Affleck, Poehler, Armisen, Forte, Dratch, Riggle Thoughts- How did Riggle get three skits his first show while SNL’s version of the NWA gets shut out? I’m not too upset that Finesse got shut out (unless there was a skit with him featuring his badass Ryan Klesko jersey) but come on- I need my weekly Kenan fix! This was all about Affleck and since he’s Ben Affleck and he’s awesome- he delivered. The shirt tuxedo? Awesome. Slowing down Who Let the Dogs Out for a wedding dance? Awesome. Cutting off Will Forte while he read a poem and then grinding Amy Poehler and somehow coaxing a fight out of the married couple? Awesome. I probably liked this skit more then most but I just find Affleck to be hilarious in almost everything he does and this was no exception. ***1/2 Nelly Thoughts- I admittedly didn’t pay much attention to this since I was tired and all but it sounds like Nelly played an upbeat nice loud song for 12:50 in the a.m. so I dig that. On the other hand the song he played wasn’t that good so I can’t really give him heaps of praise. We’ll just slap ** on it and move on. ** The Bush’s at Camp David Thoughts- One day Lorne Michaels will wake up and realise that most of the films he puts on SNL are total ass and never seem to be funny in the slightest. I do admire the fact that they got pretty good look a-likes but this one of those things you put on in dress to pass the time and keep the audience from getting restless. Don’t put it on the live show. This was horrible and our first DUD of the year. DUD Bottom Line- Avg. skit was **.27 making this is barely a thumbs in the middle show. Not a good way to start the season, especially since they had the always funny Ben Affleck as host. This was the case of a lot of the material just not working and ill advised skit ideas- plus a lot of stuff went on for WAY too long. Stuff like Debbie Downer and that Escalator thing really should’ve been shot down or cut. Affleck tried really hard and was very funny- but there’s only so much he can do. The political humour was great (Well except the last skit) and SNL really needs to ride that out and do all they can with it for the next three shows. Seth’s John Kerry is going to be the highlight of the next couple shows- I think they can really make these debate skits work. Thumbs in the Middle I'm doing standby next week so my review will probably be a tad late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted October 3, 2004 That's not an SNL review... that's a fucking novel. And I'm warning you in advance about the amount of flaming you're going to get about that Hillary Duff section. I didn't even read the whole fucking thing but that stood out like a sore thumb. Those lyrics really, REALLY put a target on your head. My God, the horror. My God, the humanity. My God... you fucking went to TRL and had a panic attack before meeting Hillary Duff. Please tell me this is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 I know- I write too much. I always go way overboard for the premiere and finale. It's tradition. But I did spend 5 pages on SNL ranting and raving. And I freely admit my Hilary obsession is pathetic, quite sad and a tad creepy. But I don't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Dude, you posted lyrics... I'm assuming they're from her songs. Allow me to quote one Have you ever seen such a beautiful night? I could almost kiss the stars for shining so bright When i see you smiling, I go oh oh oh I would never want to miss this Cuz in my heart I know what this is Do you have ovaries? Do you menstrate once a month? Do you have a vagina? If the answer is "no" to all of those questions, you should not be able to relate to these lyrics. THESE SONGS ARE WRITTEN FOR 13-14 YEAR OLD GIRLS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 That's from 'What Dreams Are Made Of' which is the song she sings in the climatic scene of the Lizzie McGuire Movie. Let me guess Quik- I'm buring myself deeper and deeper aren't I? Me and my friend used the lyrics to Why Not as our inspiration to kill ourselves trying to meet Hilary and as I wrote the epic I realised that a lot of her lyrics do fit. I know I'm out of the demographic but her songs are fun to listen to and I wrote this review and stayed awake thanks to her two CDs. You may now commence mockery. But doesn't anyone want to talk about Debbie Downer or Rob Riggle or anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Is it just me, or did the Season Premiere of SNL receive practically no hype? I swear, I had no idea that Saturday Night Live was even coming back tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Hmmm- it seemed to recieve more hype then usual I thought. I noticed tons of newspapers and magazines mentioned Affleck/Nelly as the premiere. The speculation of Clinton hosting also got them more press then usual I think. Past premieres with Matt Damon and JB really didn't get much press. I'm amazed they didn't even announce the co-anchor until Update started. I remember finding out about Fallon/Fey in August 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Amy was awful in her debut on Update. But man, her and Tina both looked really, really hot. Like Bob said, I think they put them together to get the good press with them being 2 women hosting update The debate sketch was really good but dragged on Debbie Downer was really bad, and you could tell the audience was waiting for the cast to break , but it never came, and the laughs dwindled That had to be the longest cold opening in history, the first sketch of the night didn't get started until almost midnight. "Boner Juice" had Tina written all over it, and Amy was in it too, so you know Tina wrote it Loved the Veterans sketch, especially the line about Platoon The Bush video by Allison ?, well she is no Adam McKay or Robert Smigel for sure TOO LONG Rachel was funny in the escalator sketch, but that was about it WAY TOO LONG With Queen Latifah hosting next week, you can bank on a Jimmy cameo, Disappointing season opener as a whole, with LONG, LONG sketches bringing it down big time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 That Hilary Duff thing was REALLY, REALLY gay. I mean, I felt the gayness pulsating through my body as I read it. It's bad enough just with the story, but the lyrics really put the icing on the cake. Either you're a gay, or you're going to end up as a celebrity stalker in jail in a few years. Oh, and get a new fucking Braves hat, and some new shirts! With that said, I love your SNL reviews, and this one was great too. I agree with pretty much everything, and I think Amy Poehler is going to be a colossal bust on WU, maybe the worst ever. When I look at her sitting there I just don't see a "Weekend Update Host". I mean, do they really NEED a co-host? What would be so bad about just Tina Fey? Also, is there anywhere I can see a list of all the hosts/musical guests for the entire season, or is that not all decided yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Also, is there anywhere I can see a list of all the hosts/musical guests for the entire season, or is that not all decided yet? Queen Latifah hosts next week and Jude Law the week after. The schedule is not released for the whole season, it comes gradually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Funny thing; the only two sketches I particularly cared for were the Swift Boat Veterans spoof and, oddly enough, the escalator thing, though the latter was too long. Everything else I found to be either unfunny, repetitive, or directionless. I don't know if this was worse than the Matt Damon season premiere two years back, but it at least comes close. EDIT: Oh, and as for the Hillary Duff thing; never again. I can tolerate scrolling past your stuff to get to the review usually, but that was too much. Way too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Amy wasn't good in her WU anchor debut, but the black hole of suck that is Horatio Sanz actually made me forget that she wasn't all that great... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 I don't think Amy Poehler will be all that bad. If she can shake her nervousness, it might actually work. But yeah, Tina alone or Tina and Seth would have worked real good. And the Hilary Duff obsession is really creepy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Jesus Christ Bob, you expect me to read all that shit?! I thought your first post was the review (and I was wondering where Ben was), then when I saw you write "And now the actual review" I cussed your bitch-ass out. EDIT: Dude, seriously, get a girlfriend -- your two posts were 12,750+ words... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beast 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 I enjoyed almost every sketch. I was very shocked and happy to see Riggle join since I've enjoyed every VH1 thing he does, so right away, he's up there with Forte as one of my faves. The boner thing, I didn't really get, but yes his huge boner at the end was funny. I liked the escalator thing, since I like those disaster movies from the 70's, and "The Morning After" playing in the end was a good touch. I thought the debate was a little long, but I definitely broke into laughter a few times. I was horrified that they brought back Debbie Downer. I was waiting for something to happen, either a breakdown into laughter or a good joke, but nothing. Weekend Update was fine; I liked all three commentaries, and I'm going to wait a few shows before deciding my thoughts on Pohler. Affleck was awesome tonight with the Carvelle and Wedding sketches. Aside from Debbie Downer, the two worst parts were the short film in the end, even though they played Lynard Skynard, and the announcement of Queen Latifah as host and musical guest. I can't wait for Jude Law though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Amy was awful in her debut on Update. But man, her and Tina both looked really, really hot. Like Bob said, I think they put them together to get the good press with them being 2 women hosting update Usually I would make lecherous comments towards both women- but I'm still bitter about Seth getting denied so Amy had to feel my wrath. But they're both really hot. Oh and how hot was Tina was in the montage? Damn. The debate sketch was really good but dragged on They didn't seem to learn from the debate skits in 2000. I watched the first two yesterday and they were all very short. Had Al Gore rambled about lock boxes foe 2 hrs- it wouldn't have been that funny. Debbie Downer was really bad, and you could tell the audience was waiting for the cast to break , but it never came, and the laughs dwindled You could tell they were hoping to get Rachel with the music but she just wouldn't take the bait. Good for her too. That had to be the longest cold opening in history, the first sketch of the night didn't get started until almost midnight. They needed to shave off Forte's bit by about 3 minutes and it would've been great. The Bush video by Allison ?, well she is no Adam McKay or Robert Smigel for sure TOO LONG According to Brian Jaudon from the SNL Message Board- she's some British lady who does those movies in Britain. Why she had to come to America- we'll never know. Rachel was funny in the escalator sketch, but that was about it WAY TOO LONG With Queen Latifah hosting next week, you can bank on a Jimmy cameo, Jimmy will be in NYC this week plugging Taxi. He said he didn't want to cameo for a long time- but I think we'll see him. He did do the voiceover. Disappointing season opener as a whole, with LONG, LONG sketches bringing it down big time Yea- It could've been so much better. They have two good hosts coming up so hopefully this was just an aberration. With that said, I love your SNL reviews, and this one was great too. I agree with pretty much everything, and I think Amy Poehler is going to be a colossal bust on WU, maybe the worst ever. When I look at her sitting there I just don't see a "Weekend Update Host". I mean, do they really NEED a co-host? What would be so bad about just Tina Fey? For the record- I like wearing the same shirt when I go out to stalk. Consider it good luck and weird coincidences. I don't think Amy is going to be the worst ever since she will have Tina's help but she was just terrible. I agree with you on the WU thing- I can't picture her reading the news. Hopefully this was nerves. I think it will be good, since it's WU and I'm an Update mark, but it could've been so much more with Seth. What would be so bad about Tina Fey? That's the thing- NOTHING!! Putting Amy at the desk was a very last minute decision and they were obviously unsure of what to do. So I think having Tina go at it alone and then pass the ball to someone next year would've been FINE. I never thought I'd complain about two hot women doing the news but then again I hate Naked News so there ya' go. Queen Latifah hosts next week and Jude Law the week after. The schedule is not released for the whole season, it comes gradually Both should be really good hosts- SNL better not drop the ball. Funny thing; the only two sketches I particularly cared for were the Swift Boat Veterans spoof and, oddly enough, the escalator thing, though the latter was too long. Everything else I found to be either unfunny, repetitive, or directionless. I don't know if this was worse than the Matt Damon season premiere two years back, but it at least comes close I'm the only one who actually liked the Matt Damon show- I don't remember one thing about it- just that it was really funny and I could barely walk from throwing out my back. The esclator thing just dragged on way too long. It would've been funny had someone entered into the picture, stared at all of them and then just walked down the escalator. Like Kenan. Oh, and as for the Hillary Duff thing; never again. I can tolerate scrolling past your stuff to get to the review usually, but that was too much. Way too much. I did not expect to write 5 pages and 2600 words. I promise you that. I thought it'd be like 2 pages long and then I got into a rhythmn and when I was done my reaction was: Holy shit. Amy wasn't good in her WU anchor debut, but the black hole of suck that is Horatio Sanz actually made me forget that she wasn't all that great... Horatio wasn't as bad as he usually is and I likedthe interplay about him being gay but yea- he was bad. Worse then Amy? No. I don't think Amy Poehler will be all that bad. If she can shake her nervousness, it might actually work. But yeah, Tina alone or Tina and Seth would have worked real good. I don't get the nervousness. She's done live television for three years. Yes WU is a different beast but come on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Jesus Christ Bob, you expect me to read all that shit?! You people act like I've never written a long and verbose review before. My record is 58 pages and my goal is to hit 100 in May. I thought your first post was the review (and I was wondering where Ben was), then when I saw you write "And now the actual review" I cussed your bitch-ass out. EDIT: Dude, seriously, get a girlfriend -- your two posts were 12,750+ words... 12,765 to be exact. My finale review was 27,760 words. I enjoyed almost every sketch. I was very shocked and happy to see Riggle join since I've enjoyed every VH1 thing he does, so right away, he's up there with Forte as one of my faves. The boner thing, I didn't really get, but yes his huge boner at the end was funny. I liked the escalator thing, since I like those disaster movies from the 70's, and "The Morning After" playing in the end was a good touch. I'm unsure on Riggle. I've seen perform at the UCB Theatre many times and while he's funny- he is way too one dimensional. He usually will play a dumb macho guy in every skit. That works in his show Kung Fu Grip but it gets really tiring watching it over and over again every week. Rob Huebel also auditioned and he really should've been picked. I thought the debate was a little long, but I definitely broke into laughter a few times. I was horrified that they brought back Debbie Downer. I was waiting for something to happen, either a breakdown into laughter or a good joke, but nothing. Weekend Update was fine; I liked all three commentaries, and I'm going to wait a few shows before deciding my thoughts on Pohler. The minute I saw the setup I knew the horror that awaited us. I hope Amy turns it around but I'm really bitter and upset about this. She needs to work on her delivery badly. Affleck was awesome tonight with the Carvelle and Wedding sketches. Aside from Debbie Downer, the two worst parts were the short film in the end, even though they played Lynard Skynard, and the announcement of Queen Latifah as host and musical guest. I can't wait for Jude Law though. Queen was pretty funny last time and I know the writers and cast loved working with her so I'm optimistic. Then again the writers and cast love Affleck and we got this shit. Jude Law should be awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 So Rob Riggle had the Best Week Ever! He went from one of the million clip shows from VH1 to the main event in skit comedy SNL. I can't wait until he gets a regular character so I can see how funny he truely is. Ben Afflect as James Carville was the funniest skit on the show of the night. I could not believe how perfect that impression was since the last time I remember Carville on tv was on the Conan O'Brien show with him just going insane with his political views. After the Weekend Update I changed the channel since all the funny went in the begining of the show with the political humor then there was a huge dropoff with the pointless Esclator and the Wedding with the DJ from Hell skits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 So Rob Riggle had the Best Week Ever! He went from one of the million clip shows from VH1 to the main event in skit comedy SNL. I can't wait until he gets a regular character so I can see how funny he truely is. He'll probably play a loud mouth macho guy. Sadly he cannot say 'Fuck motherfuck' or go into any long winded stories about cows fucking. Ben Afflect as James Carville was the funniest skit on the show of the night. I could not believe how perfect that impression was since the last time I remember Carville on tv was on the Conan O'Brien show with him just going insane with his political views. Yea I've seen Carville on Crossfire- he just shouted about the War on Iraq for an hour even when it wan't important. After the Weekend Update I changed the channel since all the funny went in the begining of the show with the political humor then there was a huge dropoff with the pointless Esclator and the Wedding with the DJ from Hell skits. You really didn't miss much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Goddamn, I came in here expecting to read a simple review of SNL's premiere that I didn't even know happened last night, and I get Bob's life story... To second what kkk said, read my signature... I think this is the moment it was meant for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 This "Autograph seekers" is the oddest subculture I've been exposed to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 That quote doesn't really make any sense- but I freely admit to having no life. Yea- autograph collectors and dealers are scary and oftentimes evil people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 The esclator thing just dragged on way too long. It would've been funny had someone entered into the picture, stared at all of them and then just walked down the escalator. Like Kenan. Where the hell WAS Kenan, anyway? Doing work on the Fat Albert movie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 He was there I assume- just not used. I don't know what was cut yet so I can't say. I do know Seth and Will got a lot cut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Ocean 3 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Do you post these things on any boards besides this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 I post them at the SNL Message Board (www.voy.com/16069/) I email them every week to Sean Bradley at saturday-night-live.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Well it is nice to know the effort isn't being wasted just on us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 This "Autograph seekers" What you, and it appears many others, do. Wait outside buildings, hold out pieces of paper or whatever, and try to get it signed. Some people do it for money, some to fulfill some silly quest, some to put an "x" in a column. Most people tend to do it relating to one area/interest - wrestling fans go to wrestling events to get wrestlers autographs, for example - while others, it seems, do it for "celebrity". is the oddest subculture We are a celebrity driven society. We hold people who "pretend" in a high regard. It is a very silly thing in and of itself, but most people leave it at Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood. That is the culture. The subculture would be those who go the extra step - those whom actively go out and "meet" these "stars" -and through reading about your experiences, there looks to be rules that govern this subculture, peers/groups/"fans" you recognize, and similar objectives. It's odd because when you look at it objectively, it's a piece of paper, a written name, and a "hello". And yet there are people who pursue this. It's similar to the Paparazzi in its sorta Parasite/leech-like nature, but even then the Paparazzi do it more for $$$ and fame in their industry than anything else. Personally, I think it'd make for an interesting documentary. Infact, your Bronson Pinchot story reminded me of a Paparazzi Documentary I saw where the photographers felt this sense of entitlement and even got to the point of "Hey, I don't need this. It's your loss." when a celeb wouldn't pander to them. I've been exposed to. I live a pretty isolate life here in Mississauga. I didn't even know there were people lining outside SNL or David Letterman mobbing celebrities. I am sure what you do is not the oddest thing a person can do, but its the oddest thing that I have heard about (in detail). Better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Oh sorry Rudo- I was referring to what Slayer said. Not you- I totally got what you said. Sorry for making you type that out. My bad. I'm not that stupid. Oh sorry Rudo- I was referring to what Slayer said. Not you- I totally got what you said. Sorry for making you type that out. My bad. I'm not that stupid. EDIT: What you said was really interesting though. I try to make rules for myself so I don't go to Letterman everyday and waste my life. I usually only go after people I really like. I often will meet other people just because they're on the same talk show or come out at the same time. Like with Brittany Murphy. I went to meet Tom Cruise, failed, and she was right there so I figured: Why not? I don't like going to hotels because that just seems too creepy for me. For the most part, I try to meet someone only once. If I only get an autograph and know next time I meet them I may be able to get a picture or something- I may try again. I think I'm done meeting Hilary and Avril though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
