RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Getting Mad is one thing, lashing out at fans is completely different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 As a paying customer going to a WWE show, what is one supposed to do? Sit on his/her thumbs all night? Granted, most fans end up doing that but many are hell bent on having a good time and would like to enjoy themselves (what a concept). Cheering the faces and heckling the heels is the most common way for an enthusiastic fan to do this. Realistically, D-Von may have had some personal issues that he brought w/ him to work and let a fan push him over the edge. I am GUESSING that the fan probably called him an asshole once or twice but I really don't think a man of his stature would EVER drop the N-Bomb to a man the size of D-Von. If he did, he's an idiotic ignorant goof, on several levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 If a black men gets upset at being called nigger, then what's he doing becoming a wrestler, and a heel at that, when nigger is probably one of the least offensive things that he'll get called ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 I think we should drop the whole nigger issue now, since it's no where reported that he was even called a nigger, or any other racial slur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 If a black men gets upset at being called nigger, then what's he doing becoming a wrestler, and a heel at that, when nigger is probably one of the least offensive things that he'll get called ? You obviously aren't black, cause that's FAR and AWAY the most offensive thing you can be called. And saying someone should not get upset over being called a "Nigger" is ignorant as hell. Saying he shouldn't literally put his hands on another person over a word, then you have a point. I'm wondering how are you supposed to control your emotions when someone goes that far? Now you should be able to contain yourself enough not to attack somebody, but not to care? WTF you think this is? I, personally, would spit in duke eye after the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mr. Wrestling Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Rule #1 of being a heel: Learn to put up with offensive behavior If you started watching in the 90s, you are void to this concept because you didn't live in the era. Infact more fans should get involved like this. How do you think Rico feels about being called a "fag" despite him not being a real homosexual? It's part of portraying a heel. For Christ's sakes, people jumping up acting like being called an offensive slur is provacation for the person to commit murder. It's wrestling where it is your JOB to make people scream at you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Being a young black man...the n-word has never bothered me. Maybe it was the way my parents raised me, because I'm pretty thick-skinned about things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted October 27, 2004 I'm wondering how are you supposed to control your emotions when someone goes that far? Collect your pay cheque, and realise it's part of your damn job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 I doubt racism was the issue. I find it hard to believe that being in the business as long as he's been, and considering the type of people that WWE appeals to (I've seen dudes here in Philly throwing up Nazi signs to black wrestlers before) that this would be the first time he's been a nigger or whatever by a fan. However, I do think that the fan did something to provoke him. I don't know the man personally, so I can't say for sure what he would or wouldn't do, but by all accounts, D-Von is cool and down to earth when it comes to fans, and just going off that makes me think that the fan probably crossed the line. Plus that report is biased as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 If a black men gets upset at being called nigger, then what's he doing becoming a wrestler, and a heel at that, when nigger is probably one of the least offensive things that he'll get called ? You obviously aren't black, cause that's FAR and AWAY the most offensive thing you can be called. And saying someone should not get upset over being called a "Nigger" is ignorant as hell. Saying he shouldn't literally put his hands on another person over a word, then you have a point. I'm wondering how are you supposed to control your emotions when someone goes that far? Now you should be able to contain yourself enough not to attack somebody, but not to care? WTF you think this is? I, personally, would spit in duke eye after the show. And you have just proven my point. If you're black and being called the 'N word' gets you so riled up, then don't become a wrestler. You'll get called that all the time if you're a heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 You shouldn't be called that all the time even if you're a heel. It just shouldn't be used, period. I would hope there aren't enough ignorant fans out there that black wrestlers would have to deal with that shit on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Getting Mad is one thing, lashing out at fans is completely different. He didn't hurt the guy. He just got really pissed and almost went over the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 What I don't understand is why at the red light D'Von would go back after him.. I'm saying this story is bullshit. Probably never even happened in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 You shouldn't be called that all the time even if you're a heel. It just shouldn't be used, period. I would hope there aren't enough ignorant fans out there that black wrestlers would have to deal with that shit on a regular basis. I agree that you shouldn't be called that. But also realize there ARE enough ignorant fans out there that you'd get it all the time. You can't let it get to you or you're in the wrong business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Getting Mad is one thing, lashing out at fans is completely different. He didn't hurt the guy. He just got really pissed and almost went over the line. The guy is supposedly going in for back surgery, and by the sounds of it, D-Von supposedly grabbed the guy by the collar to get in his face. I realise it's all hear-say, but I'd imagine if your back is messed up enough to require surgery, being shaken like that by the collar isn't what the doctor ordered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlaskanHero 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Now that I think about it, I don't think it's race. I mean, didn't Bubba wear a bandanna of the Confederate Flag for a while? I think it's in one of the Smackdown games. I think D'von would have more of a problem with that seeing how it's his partner. Hell, the WWE made him one of those stereotypical black reverends. Maybe the guy insulted his mom. Maybe the fan said something like "I hope your bitch-slut of a mom dies of AIDS while a hooker shits on her face and everyone pisses on her grave after raping her corpse". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Maybe the guy insulted his mom. Maybe the fan said something like "I hope your bitch-slut of a mom dies of AIDS while a hooker shits on her face and everyone pisses on her grave after raping her corpse". Maybe he did. I think if he did though, it wouldn't have been a simple lock-up at the lights, I'd imagine. Regardless - I still don't believe it to be justification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 What I don't understand is why at the red light D'Von would go back after him.. If this incident did take place, and D-Von got out of his car, then the fan might have tried to block the car or somethng. For anyone to get out of a car at the lights and go after someone would require serious provocation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 If a black men gets upset at being called nigger, then what's he doing becoming a wrestler, and a heel at that, when nigger is probably one of the least offensive things that he'll get called ? You obviously aren't black, cause that's FAR and AWAY the most offensive thing you can be called. And saying someone should not get upset over being called a "Nigger" is ignorant as hell. Saying he shouldn't literally put his hands on another person over a word, then you have a point. I'm wondering how are you supposed to control your emotions when someone goes that far? Now you should be able to contain yourself enough not to attack somebody, but not to care? WTF you think this is? I, personally, would spit in duke eye after the show. And you have just proven my point. If you're black and being called the 'N word' gets you so riled up, then don't become a wrestler. You'll get called that all the time if you're a heel. So I shouldn't enter an occupation I'm good at because of some ignorant fan? That's silly. Who cares how "riled" up he gets as long as he doesn't injury the fan? There's been plenty of altercations between fans and wrestlers, too. Hell, Eddy Guerrero has had a few, you think he doesn't belong in the business? Not saying he's right, but wrestlers are HUMAN too. I guarantee a significant amount of wrestlers have atleast "seriously" threatened physical harm or had to be restrained from getting at a fan. It's not as simple as "It's your job, don't get mad". If it was the simple, then there would never be incidents like this (Supposedly) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 D-Von snapped and shoved the Bell Centre security and grabbed the fan against the rail and made him go face to face with him. D-Von leaves his car at the light on the street and rushes out to get in the fan's face, then he started shoving the fan and asking him what he's going to do. Yeah, physical contact with fans is not crossing the line. What fucking world do you live in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Now that I think about it, I don't think it's race. I mean, didn't Bubba wear a bandanna of the Confederate Flag for a while? I think it's in one of the Smackdown games. I think D'von would have more of a problem with that seeing how it's his partner. Hell, the WWE made him one of those stereotypical black reverends. I heard the Reverand thing was his idea, since his parents were church folk. Also, a lot of blacks really don't care about the Confederate flag (some wear it themselves), so I don't think that's anything to point to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted October 27, 2004 So I shouldn't enter an occupation I'm good at because of some ignorant fan? If you're good at it, you should have learned to shrug it off by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Dvon will not get punished. Not a slap on the wrist. Not a "Hey Dvon, next time don't do that". No one in the WWE will care. Worse, Dvon is actually getting DEFENDED by FANS, who could have easily been in that situation (taunting the heels, which is supported and encouraged by the WWE). This is absolutely amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 As you said, your not black, and do not understand. So just keep quiet about. You have no right to say D-Von can't get mad. You have no experince with it. They'll never understand And they'll never hear Jimi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Dvon will not get punished. Not a slap on the wrist. Not a "Hey Dvon, next time don't do that". No one in the WWE will care. Worse, Dvon is actually getting DEFENDED by FANS, who could have easily been in that situation (taunting the heels, which is supported and encouraged by the WWE). This is absolutely amazing. Who are you to say whether or not he should be punished? All we've got to go on is a fan report--one that's clearly biased at that. Perhaps D-Von was wrong, but for all you know, he could've been in the right. I'm not taking either side, but I don't see how your automatic "D-Von was wrong" stance is any better than anyone who would try to defend him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 On principle, a wrestler who attacks a fan for having a "big mouth", is at fault. The fan pays to be there and is encouraged to taunt the wrestlers, which means the wrestlers -who get a cut of the house, and therefore that fans' money - have to put up with that. I am a fan, that could have easily been me. If something isn't done about this internally then it COULD be me. How is it "right" to ever physically get involved with the fans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 At the WWE events I attend, security specifically tells us we cannot touch the wrestlers in any way unless they are the ones who extend their hands (meaning they want to be touched) and if we touch them when we're not supposed to, we could get kicked out of the building / arrested for doing it. Now IF the fan in question "touched" or "hit" D-Von, D-Von has every right to whoop his ass because the fan did not follow simple instructions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Love the morality here. "Someone calls you a name, it's ok to KICK HIS ASS!! YEAH!" "Someone touches your elbow, it's ok to KICK HIS ASS!!! YEAH!!" "A Wrestler attacks you, you're a fucking pussy who asked for it" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 Man, stop the bullshit. It's a one-sided report clearly written out to paint the fan as an innocent victim. It's only one half of the story. Unless you know the whole story, you've got no authority whatsoever to say that the man should be punished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2004 That's cool. There's no way the fan would admit being wrong, he probably did say some shit to D'Von or pat him a little too hard. If I was around that fan, I would have been yelling "D'Von he thinks you're a pussy." I would then push that guy into D'Von for fun, that would be funny. Seriously though, when you attend a wrestling show, you gotta be prepared for ANYTHING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites