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I think Ted Kennedy should slap him and say, "YOU LOST! Stop fucking up more you piece of horse crap or so help me GOD I'll strangle you with piano wire!"

Or worse, take him for a drive down by Chappaquitta

 

Nah, Ted is an innovator. He likes to get em different each time.

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I'd like to see what the reactions would be if John Kerry came out and gave a speech in which he states that he lost straight up, and asked America to join together to once again become united.

If he did that, he'd actually earn a little bit of my respect.

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I'll still wait for the provisionals. There's quite a lot of them because of that law that you had to use a provisional if you didnt feel like traveling around the county to find the place where you were allowed to vote.

That decision was tossed out last night...

 

If a provisional ballot wasn't cast at the right polling place, it's invalid.

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I'll still wait for the provisionals. There's quite a lot of them because of that law that you had to use a provisional if you didnt feel like traveling around the county to find the place where you were allowed to vote.

 

Problem is, those are expected be largely Republican. So Kerry could literally drag the country to a stop and fall FURTHER back.

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Ignore Bush having the first majority since 1988 (making him, mind you, more popular than Clinton EVER was)..."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

oh did I mention....

 

:lol: ?

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Ok, forgetting Ohio for a moment... what is everybody's opinion on the IOWA debacle? They've stopped counting b/c of broken voting machines and counter fatique, saying they'll pick it up tomorrow? Did I understandt hat correctly?

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Ignore Bush having the first majority since 1988 (making him, mind you, more popular than Clinton EVER was)..."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

oh did I mention....

 

:lol: ?

 

Sadly...as much as I cringe to say this...he's actually right.

 

I don't know how but Bush is topping Clinton.

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Ignore Bush having the first majority since 1988 (making him, mind you, more popular than Clinton EVER was)..."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

oh did I mention....

 

:lol: ?

97% counted in Ohio and Kerry's STILL behind by 130,000.

 

 

Face it... he is NOT winning it without a court case and, even then, people won't put up with the same shit that happened in Florida.

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How has the administration forgotten that?

By politicizing gay marriage to gain the support of the religious right. I know, I know, it's a state issue, which is why Bush felt the need to make his stance known.

 

*rolls eyes*

 

 

 

Bush doesn't like it. That's his position.

 

The same position as Kerry.

Like it or not, this is democracy. You can't say you support democracy for issues that don't impact you, but not in ones that do.

The voters spoke. The voters are hateful, scary people. It's democracy all right. I'm not bashing the system, I'm bashing the result.

What did I say months ago? Your side has done an insanely shitty job of making its case. That is the fault of the gay marriage proponents.

And, if Kerry actually DOES fight, the Dems lost the 2006 election.

    -=Mike

You mean 2008?

Nah. I mean the Congressional elections in 2006.

 

And since Kerry actually seems ready to try and contest a 120,000 vote margin, he has sentenced his party to death. And good riddance to them.

-=Mike

So you would feel fine with a 1 Party system Mike?

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Only 3% of precincts left in Ohio, and Bush is STILL up over 120k votes.

 

If they fight this, the Democrat party will meltdown.

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Ok, forgetting Ohio for a moment... what is everybody's opinion on the IOWA debacle? They've stopped counting b/c of broken voting machines and counter fatique, saying they'll pick it up tomorrow? Did I understandt hat correctly?

 

Well, if the machines broke there is nothing they can do. It's CRAP since it's like they are waiting to find out if they can swing the election.

 

Should make them vote manually.

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I'd like to see what the reactions would be if John Kerry came out and gave a speech in which he states that he lost straight up, and asked America to join together to once again become united.

yer kidding right?

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Why was Ohio called? It seems there are still a lot of votes to count and everytime they get closer to 100% reporting, the gap narrows. Kerry is now down by less then 100,000 votes in Ohio, and this doesn't even count and "provisional" votes or whatever.

Actually Mike, Bush has a 128,000 lead vote lead with 96% precincts reporting.

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I Just learned a new song.

 

 

O Canada!

Our home and native land!

True patriot love in all thy sons command.

 

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,

The True North strong and free!

 

From far and wide,

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

 

God keep our land glorious and free!

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

 

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

 

But, I'll forget it if you give Kerry Ohio. Thanks.

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I'd like to see what the reactions would be if John Kerry came out and gave a speech in which he states that he lost straight up, and asked America to join together to once again become united.

yer kidding right?

You're kidding about asking that...right?

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What did I say months ago? Your side has done an insanely shitty job of making its case. That is the fault of the gay marriage proponents.

I can understand gay marriage bans, although I don't like them. However, banning civil unions (which many of these amendments will do) goes from sad but predictible to religious dumbassery.

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States most assuredly DO decide straight marriage. You have to get a license for a reason.

And any man and any woman, provided they're of legal age, can get that license. States do not have the right to refuse to acknowledge straight marriages from other states, nor should they.

And if a gay man wants to marry a woman, he has every right to do so. If you want to change the rules, you have to make your case --- and your side has clearly failed to do so.

I'm supposing you forgot to provide proof for this.

Kerry mentioned it in the debate and the fact checker psychos didn't say a word about it, yet they did any other questionable statements.

So, no proof then. Got it.

I love when anybody is ACTUALLY trying to use that as an argument.

 

Weird, a 15 year old kid needs parental permission to go on a school field trip --- but for abortion? Nah, no need for that.

Nope. No need. You ignored the fact that a teenager could be getting raped by a family member. Is she supposed to go to that family member and ask for the right to get an abortion?

Wow. Trying to argue for something on an abnormally rare event? Hate to break it to you, but incestual rape is not exactly a massive problem.

 

It'd be like me opposing gay marriage because a few gay men like to molest little boys. A weak argument that one should be too ashamed to make in seriousness.

It's a stupid question. He has no ability to overturn Roe v Wade.

He could have very easily said that.

Why? You wouldn't believe him.

Lawsuits slashes the number of vaccine makers from 7 to 2. That and Clinton deciding to have the gov't buy the vaccines, annihilating the profit margin, while not protecting them from lawsuits.

 

No one should be protected from lawsuits. The fear of a lawsuit, ideally, should be enough to make people do the right thing. Clinton does deserve his share of the blame here, no doubt.

That is sad, honestly. Why even have an FDA if their approval will not protect somebody from lawsuits based on side effects that are stated in the documentation of the product?

Loss, you're blinded your fears. It'd be a waste of my time to try and correct you. I feel for you and hope you can rejoin reality.

    -=Mike

Reality sucks the big one at this point, because the American populace is filled with people who aren't smart enough to think for themselves. Yeah, technically, they're working within the system, but the problem isn't the system, the problem is the mindset.

No, the problem is that you don't like the outcome. So be it. I thought it was utter bullshit that Clinton got away with all he did.

 

And, NCM, care to mention the Clinton majority he won? Oh, you can't.

-=Mike

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What did I say months ago? Your side has done an insanely shitty job of making its case. That is the fault of the gay marriage proponents.

I can understand gay marriage bans, although I don't like them. However, banning civil unions (which many of these amendments will do) goes from sad but predictible to religious dumbassery.

 

But I don't see how you can blame Bush for that when he made it clear repeatedly he is fine with civil unions but he left marriage decisions up to the states. As much as I HATE them for it, the people of those states said ban them.

 

Course looking at the states that banned them...who wants to live in any of those states to begin with?

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I Just learned a new song.

 

 

O Canada!

Our home and native land!

True patriot love in all thy sons command.

 

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,

The True North strong and free!

 

From far and wide,

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

 

God keep our land glorious and free!

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

 

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

 

 

I feel that. I need to start stocking up on sweaters and learnin' me some hockey.

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Well, let me say, I didn't like either candidate, though I reluctantly voted Kerry. Let's hope Bush does right with the faith his country clearly put behind him. McCain in 2008~!

 

Though I never thought Kerry would win it. Not for a fuckin' second. The Dems have some serious thinking to do.

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BUSH IS UP 174,000 IN OHIO!

 

Do you SEE a pattern?!?!?

 

I'm really sick and tired of this now. I cannot belief the Democrats are so god damn ARROGANT that they believe all the pro ballots will go to them.

 

But as many have already said, most of the pro ballots ARE expected to be Republican.

 

So what is this?

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