2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 I agree with both sides having expressed the need for unity. Hopefully, extremists on both sides (I think liberal extremists are far worse on this) will do their best to help make this happen. Which side is Liberals again? My mind is blanking today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 18, 2004 Hehe, good question. He said conservatism at its best draws a line that should never be crossed and progressivism at its best breaks barriers down that have to be broken for us to move forward. He said we need red America to draw the line and blue America to push us forward, and we can't do it without either side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 He said more about Bush too. He said he first saw him speak in Iowa and called a friend immediately and said "He could beat us" and called him a fantastic politican. This is why, outside of all of his other nonsense, Bill is a brilliant politician - he's smart enough to realize that the current president is popular with a considerable portion of the electorate and that it pays more in the end to treat him with respect rather than complete and utter disdain. It's a lesson that the mainstream Democrat party hasn't gotten yet, and likely NEVER will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 This Bill Clinton face turn really came out of left field. Really sort of makes him a tragic figure when you realize the rest of the Democratic Party is going to tell him to bugger off with his "let's work together" while the party chooses to just be petty and divisive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 Caption contest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 18, 2004 It's a Democratic sandwich, between two pieces of Republican bread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 18, 2004 BTW, George HW Bush should go into stand-up. He's the funniest ex-President we've ever had, I think. Not many people really have discussed his Presidency in these parts, good or bad. I tend to think he was perhaps the most *qualified* President we've ever had, considering that he did just about everything before becoming Commander In Chief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 Caption contest? I'll go with the obvious "Damn it feels good to be a gangsta" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 BTW, George HW Bush should go into stand-up. He's the funniest ex-President we've ever had, I think. Not many people really have discussed his Presidency in these parts, good or bad. I tend to think he was perhaps the most *qualified* President we've ever had, considering that he did just about everything before becoming Commander In Chief. Yeah, I think that's interesting. One would think that Goerge Herbert Walker Armoire Vestibule Bush would have been more effective and would have left more of a legacy than his underachieving offspring. However, it certainly seems that Dubyah will leave much more of an imprint on history and have a much more substantial legacy. And his facial expressions are much more humorous, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 It's also worth noting that the library is 100% solar powered and is costing the city NO money. I know this isn't as big of a deal to those who aren't from here, but it's huge for us. Funny you should mention this because I find it highly Ironic at how many things owned by the city, state, and federal government are solar powered, which translates to LOW or NO Cost in energy bills...which is a GREAT thing btw, but when it comes to the PRIVATE sector, politicians constantly claim "oh well we dunno enough about that technology to impliment it yet" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 That makes me think of a shot from a live-action version of The Ex-Presidents, with special guest spot for the current Preisident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2004 "Damn it feels good to be a gangsta" Asshole. I was thinking the same thing. GB in the house representin for the '04 yo. OK, here's my contribution -- I always knew Clinton liked being around Bush (not to mention a pussy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Heck, Clinton won't even admit he LIED about not having sex with Monica. You make it sound crazy or eventful, but that's probably the least important thing I could care about in that scandal. I don't give a shit if he's lying about his sex life when you don't have a jury before him. Gadzooks, he's hardly the first. The events seemed rather boring and predictable, except for the Bush family, whose opinions I don't care about. It's pretty obvious to them that Clinton was an accident that shouldn't have happened, and that we ought to be just coming off eight years of Jeb and maybe have elected Dubya for the first time the other week. Well, at least we DID just elect Dubya for the first time last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Reminds me of the scene from "Resevoir Dogs" of the guys walking in slow motion (especially W on the left). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Reminds me of the scene from "Resevoir Dogs" of the guys walking in slow motion (especially W on the left). Oh great, now I have an image of George Bush Jr dancing around with a knife to "Stuck in the middle" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 I gotta hand it to him, Dubyah does look particularly badass there. Carter looks short and elfin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 "Damn it feels good to be a gangsta" Asshole. I was thinking the same thing. GB in the house representin for the '04 yo. OK, here's my contribution -- I always knew Clinton liked being around Bush (not to mention a pussy...) That's a mean thing to say about a nice guy like George HW Bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JRE Report post Posted November 19, 2004 I gotta hand it to him, Dubyah does look particularly badass there. Carter looks short and elfin. It almost looks like Clinton's holding his hand so he doesn't run away... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Caption contest? Didn't HW get the memo, it's a black trenchcoat affair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Caption contest? "Let's go to work." (Reservoir Dogs) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 I'm half-expecting Dubyah to lift up a tommy gun with his right arm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted November 19, 2004 *insert Crazy 88 music here* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Well, if you want to nitpick on the scope of things, a section about Watergate should be huge, while a sex scandal really is just a footnote in history. I see no problem with that. Except that Clinton's scandal involved perjury, conspiracy to obstruct justice --- not to mention stealing FBI files, etc. As usual, Clinton is unable to admit his faults. -=Mike Keeping in mind that Bush and Reagan weren't exactly fessing up to any of their mistakes, lies etc. Perhaps it just comes with the office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 For anyone who just wants to read the transcript instead of d/ling... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2004Nov18.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Well, if you want to nitpick on the scope of things, a section about Watergate should be huge, while a sex scandal really is just a footnote in history. I see no problem with that. Except that Clinton's scandal involved perjury, conspiracy to obstruct justice --- not to mention stealing FBI files, etc. As usual, Clinton is unable to admit his faults. -=Mike Keeping in mind that Bush and Reagan weren't exactly fessing up to any of their mistakes, lies etc. Perhaps it just comes with the office. Actually, Reagan's library has a lengthy exhibit on Iran/Contra. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 I want to know why they would care if it was in their library? It's part of their history and it's not like it will be forgotten. If anything they should just lie it all on the table. I didn't agree with the over the top way Monica situation was handled, but it is part of his history and should be a major factor in his library. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Caption contest? Didn't HW get the memo, it's a black trenchcoat affair X-Presidents 2008!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 19, 2004 There may be more than you think. As I said before, I'll take pictures and post them so you can decide for yourselves. The library will be open to the public (without vouchers) next weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywarp! 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 Caption contest? Didn't HW get the memo, it's a black trenchcoat affair X-Presidents 2008!! W.: Where's Gerald? Clinton: His invitation got "lost in the mail." Carter: Oooh! H.W.: Hahaha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2004 In all seriousnous where is President Ford? Is he sick? because I never see him at these events where all the X-presidents are. Bush Jr.: What's that smell? Bush Sr. : I think Carter just cut one! Carter: Ah guess we found that weapon of mass destruction! Ykuk Ykuk Ykuk! Clinton (looking ahead and thinking): "man, Barbra Bush is one fine woman..." Ok, I've got nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
