Guest Cerebus Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Anyone surprised? John Green, of West Bloomfield, was caught on tape throwing his cup of beer onto Indiana Pacers player Ron Artest, Local 4 reported. The act sent Artest into a rage in the stands, where players and fans then fought during the game between the Pistons and the Pacers. Local 4 learned that Green has a criminal history, which includes the following offenses: 2003 -- Operating under the influence of liquor/operating while visibly impaired (second offense) 1989 -- Assault with intent to do great bodily harm less than murder 1989 -- Escape from prison 1986 -- Carrying concealed weapons 1986 -- Uttering and publishing, which is using a false, forged, altered or counterfeit record, deed or instrument to injure or defraud. They showed a different angle of the Cup Throw of Dispair on Sports Center and it was pretty clear that this was the asshole that threw it. Naturally, he's getting his season ticket revoked. Expect this guy to get slapped with something (though, most likely, its going to be a low count assault charge) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 the funniest part of the storyline is how he was identified...... he was a former neighbor of the prosecutor! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The plot thickens...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 I don't think it matters if this guy has a record. It could've been thrown by an 8 year old girl, the result is still the same, Artest goes into the stands. I don't see much budging on David Stern's part, no matter how many different ways this situation is spun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 ^ that brings up a funny question, now what do you suppose woulda happened if it was an 8 year old and Artest ran into the stands, only to be faced with an 8 year old girl (coulda been a soda, the liquid was clear as i recall). Would he just stop? Would he throw her to the ground yelling "did you do it!? did ou do it!?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 I found it funny that he kept denying it was him, stating that he was being kicked down to the ground for no reason, when video evidence proved: 1. It WAS him. 2. He kept sucker-punching Artest in the back of the head (when Artest was involved with the other fan) until fans and players stopped him. 3. He started fighting those who tried to stop him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The guy in the black's probably going to sue Artest for millions, since we all know that he didn't do anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 23, 2004 please, He's from Detroit. He'll settle for 15 minutes of airtime on ESPN and free snow tires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The thing is, NOBODY can defend this guy. There aren't lame excuses he can hide behind, no commentators or ex-players who will come to his defense, this guy is fighting this battle alone and he will lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The guy has one arrest in 15 years, and judging by how old he looked on the video most of the offenses are from when he was relativly young (teens/early 20s is my guess) so it's not like he's a career criminal or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted November 23, 2004 He isn't allowed to drink alcohol because of some sort of probation. He was obviously drunk during the game. No, that still doesn't make it right for Artest to beat up an innocent dude, but I just wanted to point it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 He isn't allowed to drink alcohol because of some sort of probation. He was obviously drunk during the game. No, that still doesn't make it right for Artest to beat up an innocent dude, but I just wanted to point it out. I'm glad you brought that up. It's the probation violation, and not the beer throwing, that'll get this guy in trouble. please, He's from Detroit. He'll settle for 15 minutes of airtime on ESPN and free snow tires. Snow tires will do you no good when you go over a massive pothole on the Lodge. I think you'd have to go for the NBA paying for all car repairs for a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Yeah, the Lodge is fucking rough, snow tires wouldnt do you good at all, you could be driving a fucking tank and the potholes would still bitchslap any motor vehicle. The dude in black will settle for a visit to Eminem's house and lifetime season tickets to all the Detroit teams sans the Shock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 He escaped from prison? This guy's a tru warier!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Just wanted to point out that you can see Green trying to stop him here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Just wanted to point out that you can see Green trying to stop him here. Since we aren't his brain (which was probably wasted), and considering moments later he sucker punched Artest in the side of the head about 10 times, I'm assuming he thought Artest was coming to fight him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Tried to stop him, my ass. Unless you live under a rock, you've seen the clip, and you can see him *sidestep* Artest and allow him to go by. And I really am trying as hard as I can to be unbiased as it relates to this, but it's clear as day if you watch the clip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Tried to stop him, my ass. Unless you live under a rock, you've seen the clip, and you can see him *sidestep* Artest and allow him to go by. I dunno about the word "sidestep" though. He kind of watches him come up, I guess expecting him to throw the punch at him, but as soon as he runs by to the other guy, Green is grabbing him from behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Well, it wasn't like he leaped out of the way or anything, I should have clarified that. You can see him move just enough to ensure that he's out of the way, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 This reminds me of the Giants/Chargers game, where fans were throwing iceballs at the Chargers sidelines and the video was put on every news program across the country with the guy clearly throwing the iceballs with a smirk on his face, and the idiot still denied it when charged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted November 24, 2004 I remember that. The fucker knocked a Giants assistant coach out cold with an ice ball. Stupid asshole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Anybody watch the Larry King interview on CNN? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Tried to stop him, my ass. Unless you live under a rock, you've seen the clip, and you can see him *sidestep* Artest and allow him to go by. I dunno about the word "sidestep" though. He kind of watches him come up, I guess expecting him to throw the punch at him, but as soon as he runs by to the other guy, Green is grabbing him from behind... ...and punching him in the side of the head from behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 anyone remember the clip from the game between the eagles and the giants where the giants fan was cheering standing against the rail and the philly fan comes in from behind and completely rips him back and punces him? i'd love to see that clip again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2004 Police think they've found the chair thrower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
